Future Forward Party execs summoned to hear charges

 

 

Future Forward Party’s acting leader Thanathorn Jungroongreangkit and two other  party executives have been summoned to report to the Technology Crime Suppression Division (TCSD) to be charged with violating the Computer Act on Aug 24 for their comments alleging the military junta’s role in poaching of former MPs.

 

The other two FFP acting executives summoned by the TCSD are Jaruwan Saranket and Klaikong Waithayakarn.

 

The summonses were issues after Col Burin Thongprapai, a legal affairs officer of the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), filed a complaint with the TCSD accusing the three of violating Section 14 (2) of the Computer Act.

 

Full Story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/future-forward-party-execs-summoned-to-hear-charges/

 

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Wow I'm surprised which department lodged the complaint

What an amazing contradiction. There is a legal affairs officer for the NCPO, a govt forced on the people by an illegal act, who has the cheek to charge a man for violating a law when he was merely making a comment on Facebook. It will take years before fiction in Thailand can challenge the absurdity of fact.

The beginning of the end for Future forward party.

"The NCPO action came after the three broadcast live on Facebook on the night of June 29 their comments about the alleged poaching of former MPs, making references to the NCPO and attacking the justice process."

 

Wonder if this wonderful young man reads any Voltaire.   "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong".  More power to him. 

 

2 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The summonses were issues after Col Burin Thongprapai, a legal affairs officer of the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO), filed a complaint with the TCSD accusing the three of violating Section 14 (2) of the Computer Act.

Didn't think it was a concerned citizen but rather a goon in uniform. 

 

My they do fear words and freedom.

Edited August 23, 20187 yr by yellowboat

Getting dangerous for anyone to open their mouths now. 

2 hours ago, lovelomsak said:

The beginning of the end for Future forward party.

Yes - I've said from very early on that no way will this refreshingly progressive party be allowed to go forward (forgive the pun) if it is genuinely committed to democracy and justice.

 

How pathetic this junta is. Scared little midgets. 

The silence from the electorate regarding these actions being taken to silence this new party, is deafening. 

8 minutes ago, 300sd said:

The silence from the electorate regarding these actions being taken to silence this new party, is deafening. 

You are so right, my friend. That is perhaps the saddest thing of all. I can guarantee you (not that you need my guarantee) that the Thais are not swamping social media in huge numbers with outrage and complaints about what is happening to Thanathorn and FFP - nor will my Thai colleagues be in the slightest bit concerned about any of it. It will barely have registered in their consciousness.

 

Mai pen rai.

 

On with repression and authoritarianism. You know it makes sense (to selfish, gutless, unprincipled b....ards).

 

Edited August 23, 20187 yr by Eligius

As reprehensible as it is,  there's no use getting wound up about this. 

Or damning  the locals fear, apathy, silent reproach etc  

The only reason most of us are not already also summoned,  is that our opinions count for less than...  Nothing. 

Just try to enjoy the good things that are still available,  and hope that maybe the natives remain unperturbed,  because if it does kick off,  it will be very ugly indeed. As history has shown. 

12 hours ago, lovelomsak said:

The beginning of the end for Future forward party.

...while the No Future party is on the rise.

12 hours ago, lovelomsak said:

The beginning of the end for Future forward party.

Told ya, the valiant Mr. Thanatorn is getting smacked here one day sooner or later

1 minute ago, MaxLee said:

Told ya, the valiant Mr. Thanatorn is getting smacked here one day sooner or later

Correct! Yourself, myself and some others have said from a very early stage that if Thanathorn and his FFP are genuine and truly want to push for democracy - they will be stopped. No way can the junta allow them to build up a head of steam.

 

So, so sad for this country. On the face of it, Thanathorn embodies all that could be best about Thailand - and which is currently so sorely lacking.

Anything Hun Sen can do, we can do better.

Anything Hun Sen can do, we can too.

The hypocrisy is astounding 

I hope that he can get rid of the charges, his party if he is what he looks could be really the future. The old parties and junta have failed its time for new faces.

 

The Thais really don't seem to care to much about politics, my GF when asked about it has a similar attitude to me they are all crooks. No need to get excited about it as they are not there for us but for themselves.  I am not saying that most Thais think like this because i really don't know but with all the scandals and corruption by all parties why get super excited over who can enrich themselves at the cost of the people.

 

I am not saying that future forward is like the old parties because i think / hope they were not.. but I can understand the doubt and apathie that Thais have.

Edited August 24, 20187 yr by robblok

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

I hope that he can get rid of the charges, his party if he is what he looks could be really the future. The old parties and junta have failed its time for new faces.

 

The Thais really don't seem to care to much about politics, my GF when asked about it has a similar attitude to me they are all crooks. No need to get excited about it as they are not there for us but for themselves.  I am not saying that most Thais think like this because i really don't know but with all the scandals and corruption by all parties why get super excited over who can enrich themselves at the cost of the people.

 

I am not saying that future forward is like the old parties because i think / hope they were not.. but I can understand the doubt and apathie that Thais have.

Agree with you, Rob. The one political party in Thailand that really does give me hope is Thanathorn's Future Forward Party. I believe that it's time has not yet come - but that one day it (or a later incarnation of it) will lead Thailand into a much more sane and just future. Unfortunately, for now and the foreseeable future - we are stuck with an autocratic military junta.

15 minutes ago, robblok said:

The Thais really don't seem to care to much about politics, my GF when asked about it has a similar attitude to me they are all crooks.

They do not know enough to care.   Ask people on the other side of the Cambodian border, and you will find they care.  They will at least have an opinion and that opinion comes from a recent genocide.  If and when it starts to effect them, they will care, but by then it is too late.  The damage is done.  It is best to care, to have a say and not allow coups or military governments.   

Edited August 24, 20187 yr by yellowboat

4 minutes ago, Eligius said:

Agree with you, Rob. The one political party in Thailand that really does give me hope is Thanathorn's Future Forward Party. I believe that it's time has not yet come - but that one day it (or a later incarnation of it) will lead Thailand into a much more sane and just future. Unfortunately, for now and the foreseeable future - we are stuck with an autocratic military junta.

Yes seems we are stuck with the junta for a while, but maybe the PTP will win. For me it will be interesting to watch, the junta has been throwing around so much money. I always said that the PTP won partly because of the money they threw around. If the PTP get less votes as last time (48% or so) its a sign that throwing money around works. If they get more I have to revise my opinion.

 

Anyway lets wait and see what happens, and let us hope Future Forward can beat this charge.

18 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

They do not know enough to care.   Ask people on the other side of the Cambodian border, and you will find they care.  They will at least have an opinion and that opinion comes from a recent genocide.  If and when it starts to effect them, they will care, but by then it is too late.  The damage is done.  It is best to care, to have a say and not allow coups or military governments.   

You cannot compare the junta with Hun Sen, whatever the junta its faults they are not doing such a bad job the Thais dont seem to care. Only those who like democracy have something to complain but otherwise they run the country ok not better or worse then YL. Sorry I really don't see much difference. Obviously the Thais also don't see much difference or they would care a lot more. I think in this case your the one with a minority opinion. I really think that if it was bad a lot more Thais would care you would not see the apathie there is now. 

Edited August 24, 20187 yr by robblok

I do expect the court to throw out the charges as they did for the MBK 24 activists charged for illegal assembly and few other similar cases. Seem the courts have recently started to act independently. There is a tug of war going on at the top. 

They have the money to make this go away until the Junta no longer exist

...oh wake up.....

 

...he doesn't represent Thais....

 

...for the good of the people......???

 

....like a couple of other 'philanthropists'....???

 

 

19 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

I do expect the court to throw out the charges as they did for the MBK 24 activists charged for illegal assembly and few other similar cases. Seem the courts have recently started to act independently. There is a tug of war going on at the top. 

I hope your expectation come true. 

5 minutes ago, SOTIRIOS said:

...oh wake up.....

 

...he doesn't represent Thais....

 

...for the good of the people......???

 

....like a couple of other 'philanthropists'....???

 

 

After the elections we will see if he represent Thais, and yes I remember a lot of people thought Thaksin would not be corrupt because he was rich already. He was one of the most corrupt, lets hope this guy is indeed not after money.

Edited August 24, 20187 yr by robblok

1 minute ago, robblok said:

After the elections we will see if he represent Thais, and yes I remember a lot of people thought Thaksin would not be corrupt because he was rich already. He was one of the most corrupt, lets home this guy is indeed not after money.

I have always hedged my support for Thanathorn around with caveats. He is still pretty much an unknown quantity. His very rich background naturally makes him suspect (the rich usually work for the rich). 

BUT he appears (and I stress the word 'appears') potentially to represent a future for Thailand that is so very much better than what we have now. To that extent - I would give him my support.

 

Of course, the sad truth is that we foreigners cannot vote anyway. But - neither can the Thais (not in any genuine and fair election)!

2 minutes ago, Eligius said:

I have always hedged my support for Thanathorn around with caveats. He is still pretty much an unknown quantity. His very rich background naturally makes him suspect (the rich usually work for the rich). 

BUT he appears (and I stress the word 'appears') potentially to represent a future for Thailand that is so very much better than what we have now. To that extent - I would give him my support.

 

Of course, the sad truth is that we foreigners cannot vote anyway. But - neither can the Thais (not in any genuine and fair election)!

Yes the guy is an unknown factor, we really don't know and not all rich are for the rich there are some that are not Bill Gates is a good example. I also think he appears much better and I would support him too and like you I cannot vote (only with my feet).

 

I agree that the election won't be fair as far as campaigning goes, but unlike others I doubt there will be vote falsification. That just requires too many people to keep a secret, something like that always comes out. I am genuinely curious about the elections but I know that nobody that I like will win. The 2 most probable winners are of course PTP and junta (junta if enough allies). So that means I don't really have a horse in this race. 

 

If i had to chose, i would select PTP as the least bad of the two only because they will be checked more.

30 minutes ago, robblok said:

You cannot compare the junta with Hun Sen, whatever the junta its faults they are not doing such a bad job the Thais dont seem to care. Only those who like democracy have something to complain but otherwise they run the country ok not better or worse then YL. Sorry I really don't see much difference. Obviously the Thais also don't see much difference or they would care a lot more. I think in this case your the one with a minority opinion. I really think that if it was bad a lot more Thais would care you would not see the apathie there is now. 

Not comparing juntas and gangsters and drop dead gorgeous prime ministers.  Comparing attitudes.  Before the Vietnam war and before Pol Pot, Cambodians had a similar attitudes as modern day Thais.  Remember old adage: "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it" ?   You can learn from historical happenings that are not your own.  You even mentioned that in a post a few days ago with the washing machine analogy.  If you are not vigilant and do not care, bad things can happen to you.  If I had a girlfriend like yours, that is something I would talk about, because Thailand seems to repeat history on an almost daily basis. 

Is there a body that forms body's and a body to form initials for the formed body's or BTFB-BTFBI?? 

13 hours ago, lovelomsak said:

The beginning of the end for Future forward party.

FF sounds suspiciously like an NED (new CIA) operation. Too American, rich candidates, tech savvy. Echoes of Thaksin...