webfact Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 With final horse races, Royal Turf Club bids adieu By JITRAPORN SENWONG THE NATION IT WAS CURTAINS yesterday for the Royal Turf Club at Bangkok’s Nang Loeng horse-racing venue in Dusit district, where it had operated for more than a hundred years. As many as 5,000 people showed up yesterday to watch the final races. The number of laps was increased to 10 – with 15 instead of the usual 14 horses galloping on the turf, before permanent closure of the site that first opened on December 18, 1916. The historic and final horse races competed for the Phraya (Khoyule na Ranong) Pradiphat Phuban Trophy. He was the co-founder of the club along with Chao Phraya Ramrakhop. The prize money was double the usual amount, giving horses, jockeys and staff a higher share. The closure of the venue was because the club’s lease contracts with the Crown Property Bureau for the track, a five-storey stand, two six-storey parking buildings, a five-storey management building, a one-storey structure and a swimming pool had expired. Royal Turf Club board vice chairman General Boonlert Kaewprasit said many people felt saddened by the closure of the venue. He said the club had urged the Interior Ministry to issue a regulation increasing the frequency of horse races held at another venue – the Royal Bangkok Sports Club – to four times a month (from the usual two times a month) to aid those affected by the facility’s closure. Royal Turf Club secretary-general General Wichaya Thephatsadin na Ayutthaya confirmed that the Interior Ministry was considering the request and a regulation would be issued next week. He said the site will be returned officially to the Crown Property Bureau on October 4 for construction of a monument for the late King Rama IX and a museum to honour Her Majesty Queen Sirikit. Some 100 workers at the Nang Loeng site will be laid off with compensation equivalent to six months’ salary, he said, adding a new site for horse racing was under discussion. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30354596 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-09-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I'm surprised this is not a TV closed topic. Best I keep my gob (or thoughts) shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laocowboy2 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Pity - but at least it appears that it will remain a green space. Little of that left in BKK now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Somehow, I don't think this will remain a green area.....I'm sure there's big plans for this wonderful site unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 so thais can't play cards, foreigners can't have decks of cards in their bridge games, but thailand has a lottery and horse racing and muay thai fights with betting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 They are laying off 100 workers, affecting not only them but their families, to build a museum? It must be very, very large and very important to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsiaHand Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 37 minutes ago, gk10002000 said: so thais can't play cards, foreigners can't have decks of cards in their bridge games, but thailand has a lottery and horse racing and muay thai fights with betting. I had a Farang friend that belonged to the Club back in the 1970s.I went there many times.as well as the turf club in Singapore.Of all the horse and pony racing circuits in Asia, Thailand was known to have the most dishonest races in Asia. Sometime there were stories of jockeys calling in sick because they were threatened by both sides to both win and to loose.and horses dying after their "vitamin" injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Or has someone got their eye on the astronomical land price this area would bring.? If in fact it turns out that a monument is built to our Beloved Late King well & good. Now what about the Tobacco Monopoly Land when they vacate next year ? Another lung for the city I hope ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyfromoz Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I always thought it was ilegal in Thailand, gamb;ling that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 4 hours ago, thaiguzzi said: I'm surprised this is not a TV closed topic. Best I keep my gob (or thoughts) shut. Why should it be closed and what should you keep your gob shut about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: Somehow, I don't think this will remain a green area.....I'm sure there's big plans for this wonderful site unfortunately. Yes, there are plans and they're detailed in the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 hours ago, gk10002000 said: so thais can't play cards, foreigners can't have decks of cards in their bridge games, but thailand has a lottery and horse racing and muay thai fights with betting. Thais can play cards and foreigners can have decks of cards for bridge. What they cannot do is gamble on those activities because that is illegal. Gambling on Muay Thai is also illegal. Gambling in the controlled area of a racecourse on the official tote is legal, as is the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: They are laying off 100 workers, affecting not only them but their families, to build a museum? It must be very, very large and very important to do that. They are also giving those workers, who have had a lot of notice of the closure, 6 months salary, they are not exactly being turfed out on to the streets penniless and without notice. I think you'll find that the Thai Royal family is a very important institution in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 hours ago, AsiaHand said: I had a Farang friend that belonged to the Club back in the 1970s.I went there many times.as well as the turf club in Singapore.Of all the horse and pony racing circuits in Asia, Thailand was known to have the most dishonest races in Asia. Sometime there were stories of jockeys calling in sick because they were threatened by both sides to both win and to loose.and horses dying after their "vitamin" injection. Wow, a hearsay story about something that may have happened nearly 50 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, wendyfromoz said: I always thought it was ilegal in Thailand, gamb;ling that is You thought wrong about horse racing and betting on the official tote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebrown Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Just Weird said: Why should it be closed and what should you keep your gob shut about? Usually all TV OPs mentioning the Royal Family are closed topics, or hadn't you noticed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebrown Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Just Weird said: Wow, a hearsay story about something that may have happened nearly 50 years ago. Hearsay, why, or is it just because you say so? You are in no position to say whether the story is true or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, joebrown said: Hearsay, why, or is it just because you say so? You are in no position to say whether the story is true or not! You did seem to be suggesting that your friend in Singapore told you something dodgy about Thailand and in which case it is hearsay. I didn't say it was untrue but I did say that it allegedly happened almost half a century ago according to someone , not you, and my inference was that it was irrelevant now and was no more than a Thai bash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebrown Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Just Weird said: You did seem to be suggesting that your friend in Singapore told you something dodgy about Thailand and in which case it is hearsay. I didn't say it was untrue but I did say that it allegedly happened almost half a century ago according to someone , not you, and my inference was that it was irrelevant now and was no more than a Thai bash. I said nothing. I have no friends in Singapore. TVF member 'AsiaHand' post #7 talked about HIS friend not mine. It's about time you took the time to read properly before you 'jump down peoples throats'. Not the first time I've said as much too you, is it? PM Prayut has 'threatened' to stamp out corruption in LOS, so even he believes it's a problem, or do you disagree with him? The closure of the Royal Turf Cub might lessen his workload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 8 hours ago, AsiaHand said: I had a Farang friend that belonged to the Club back in the 1970s.I went there many times.as well as the turf club in Singapore.Of all the horse and pony racing circuits in Asia, Thailand was known to have the most dishonest races in Asia. Sometime there were stories of jockeys calling in sick because they were threatened by both sides to both win and to loose.and horses dying after their "vitamin" injection. I have been involved with horses in Oz for a very long time and am sure we could teach the Thais a few not so obvious tricks. It is an expensive game to be involved in as an owner so you are always trying to get a better price when the time is right. Have had my horses in a few "boat races" but the good jockeys always let you know before what was happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 For those that have never raced a horse you have missed one of the greatest thrills in life when they win. I know I was addicted but the wives that had no interest before sure got excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 21 hours ago, joebrown said: Usually all TV OPs mentioning the Royal Family are closed topics, or hadn't you noticed? Are you thaiguzzi now or his spokesman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 21 hours ago, joebrown said: Hearsay, why, or is it just because you say so? You are in no position to say whether the story is true or not! Yes, I am, as is anyone else here. It apparently wasn't his personal experience and it was the best part of 50 years ago with nothing to back his assertion up, so it was hearsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 21 hours ago, joebrown said: I said nothing. I have no friends in Singapore. TVF member 'AsiaHand' post #7 talked about HIS friend not mine. It's about time you took the time to read properly before you 'jump down peoples throats'. Not the first time I've said as much too you, is it? PM Prayut has 'threatened' to stamp out corruption in LOS, so even he believes it's a problem, or do you disagree with him? The closure of the Royal Turf Cub might lessen his workload. You seem to have appointed yourself spokesman for so many posters here so perhaps if you didn't jump in on other people's comments making it seem as though you had made them errors wouldn't be made! What has this closure got to do with stamping put corruption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebrown Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/18/2018 at 12:02 PM, Just Weird said: You seem to have appointed yourself spokesman for so many posters here so perhaps if you didn't jump in on other people's comments making it seem as though you had made them errors wouldn't be made! What has this closure got to do with stamping put corruption? On 9/18/2018 at 12:02 PM, Just Weird said: You seem to have appointed yourself spokesman for so many posters here so perhaps if you didn't jump in on other people's comments making it seem as though you had made them errors wouldn't be made! What has this closure got to do with stamping put corruption? So it's the 'pot calling the kettle black' now is it? You have the gall to say I jump in on others' posts when in 1 year your daily average is 13 posts, and in 5 years mine is 0.6 !! As you know, and frequently do, anyone on this forum can comment on anyone else's post. With regard to your last sentence, corruption is endemic here in Thailand or maybe your rose tinted glasses shield you from this aspect of Thai culture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, joebrown said: With regard to your last sentence, corruption is endemic here in Thailand or maybe your rose tinted glasses shield you from this aspect of Thai culture? Corruption is endemic worldwide. What has corruption got to do with the closure of the race course, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebrown Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Just Weird said: Corruption is endemic worldwide. What has corruption got to do with the closure of the race course, then? Race course....Gambling......Corruption. Try joining the dots and you might understand. Sometimes I think you just post and post and post so that you always get the last word in. However, I'm surprised you have nothing to say about the first 2 paragraph's of my post #25 above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 They should build a shopping mall for foreigners who hate Thailand and thus please about 75% of the posters on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 18 hours ago, joebrown said: Race course....Gambling......Corruption. Try joining the dots and you might understand. Sometimes I think you just post and post and post so that you always get the last word in. However, I'm surprised you have nothing to say about the first 2 paragraph's of my post #25 above! Betting at the tote is not illegal and, therefore, does not automatically suggest corruption neither does it require the joining of any dots. I do not care whether I get the last word in or not (even though it appears that some posters do!) but if I do that is beyond my control, all it takes is someone else to post after me if they feel that they have something to say. I didn't comment on that garbage in your first two paragraphs because it was garbage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Just Weird said: Betting at the tote is not illegal and, therefore, does not automatically suggest corruption neither does it require the joining of any dots. I do not care whether I get the last word in or not (even though it appears that some posters do!) but if I do that is beyond my control, all it takes is someone else to post after me if they feel that they have something to say. I didn't comment on that garbage in your first two paragraphs because it was garbage! Got out of the wrong side of the bed (again) post of the day award goes to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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