2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not simply someone making an accusation, the accusation is accompanied with prior records of her statements to her therapist.

 

But let’s not forget this candidate is being protected from actual records of his legal career being examined.

 

The examination of the candidate is a constitutional requirement.

 

The threat to due process and a meaningful appointment review is not from a woman accusing him of attempted rape, it’s from the GOP withholding vast quantities of documentation.

all of his rulings are publicly available, every single case is on public record.

3 minutes ago, Srinivas said:

all of his rulings are publicly available, every single case is on public record.

But not all of his machinations.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Kavanaugh’s appointment is poltical.

 

And therefore the campaign against his appointment is political.

 

The presumption of innocence applies in a court of law, it is not mandatory in the court of public opinion.

This sort of thing is the inevitable result of the politicisation of the whole business of supreme court judges.

 

The US can hardly be said to have an independent judiciary if the justices of it's supreme court are appointed, and their appointments opposed, on political party lines.

 

It rather blows the whole idea of "separation of powers" out of the water doesn't it?

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not simply someone making an accusation, the accusation is accompanied with prior records of her statements to her therapist.

 

But let’s not forget this candidate is being protected from actual records of his legal career being examined.

 

The examination of the candidate is a constitutional requirement.

 

The threat to due process and a meaningful appointment review is not from a woman accusing him of attempted rape, it’s from the GOP withholding vast quantities of documentation.

 

It is 100% hearsay. 

 

There is no evidence. 

 

Two people she knows are backing her up. Also with zero evidence. 

 

There is literally nothing but an unfounded accusation. 

11 minutes ago, Srinivas said:

all of his rulings are publicly available, every single case is on public record.

It’s not simply the rulings, it’s also the legal advice he gave on matters such as equal rights, detentions at Gitmo , the use of torture.

 

All part of the records being withheld.

 

 

Edited September 17, 20187 yr by Chomper Higgot

6 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

 

It is 100% hearsay. 

 

There is no evidence. 

 

Two people she knows are backing her up. Also with zero evidence. 

 

There is literally nothing but an unfounded accusation. 

Or so you would have us believe.

 

The matter is now under investigation.

7 minutes ago, JAG said:

This sort of thing is the inevitable result of the politicisation of the whole business of supreme court judges.

 

The US can hardly be said to have an independent judiciary if the justices of it's supreme court are appointed, and their appointments opposed, on political party lines.

 

It rather blows the whole idea of "separation of powers" out of the water doesn't it?

Agreed but Kavanaugh was picked by Trump specifically to protect Trump from criminal prosecution.

 

This is not simply politicised, it is a blatant attempt to interfere in the judicial process.

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5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Agreed but Kavanaugh was picked by Trump specifically to protect Trump from criminal prosecution.

 

This is not simply politicised, it is a blatant attempt to interfere in the judicial process.

 

Well - at least you have a vivid imagination.

8 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

 

Well - at least you have a vivid imagination.

You imagine I do.

Uh oh. Only two of the 65 women who signed the "character letter" have stood by it. The rest haven't yet responded when asked or have declined to comment! The cracks are forming!

 

'I do not know this woman': Trump allies rally to Kavanaugh's defense

 

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More than two dozen of the women who signed onto the letter did not immediately respond when contacted by POLITICO on Sunday about whether they still stood behind their defense of Kavanaugh. Two of the women who signed the letter declined to comment.

 

Edited September 17, 20187 yr by Silurian

1 hour ago, pedro01 said:

OK - so now all that has to happen to derail ANY political appointee is to find a woman to claim sexual impropriety just before appointment?

 

Or, if they had the majority, they could simply refuse to even meet with the nominee or have any hearings at all even if the nominee were named by a popularly elected president with an above average poll approval rating and not under any investigation—but that would be way too political, unprecedented, and partisan, wouldn’t you agree?

3 hours ago, blazes said:

 

No:   much lower was "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

And spoog to prove it!

remember, it's okay to be a man in a position of power and blow chowder all over a fat vulnerable intern as long as you are a Democrat and spout the right lingo. Your wife will even come out and call your accusers sluts and then be heralded as a champion of women

 

Have a great idea. Cavanaugh's should withdraw and as soon as the election is finished, Cruz resigns, and gets nominated to the Supreme Court. Ted is what the country needs there.

27 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Have a great idea. Cavanaugh's should withdraw and as soon as the election is finished, Cruz resigns, and gets nominated to the Supreme Court. Ted is what the country needs there.

 

Why not go straight for Roy Moore, while at it?

8 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Why not go straight for Roy Moore, while at it?

Cuz he is an alleged High School diddler too.

 

Cruz it's gonna be if Kav don't make it. Payback is a beeatch.

59 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Why not go straight for Roy Moore, while at it?

No, the American people are not yet ready for a judge who shags horses.

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Or so you would have us believe.

 

The matter is now under investigation.

 

Doesn't stop you from offering your two bitsworth, does it?

12 hours ago, Hogs said:

What a complete and utter load of TRASH

Absolutely ridiculous that after 40 years, YES 40 years, this woman now comes out with an accusation all because this guy is running for the Supreme court 

There is ZERO credibility whatsoever,

I bet you she is a liberal that would do anything to try and stop Kavanagh being confirmed.

Just another Liberal hit job because they just cannot STAND, that Trump is wiping the floor with them and no matter what they THROW at him they just cannot stop the Trump Train.

I am praying and hoping that Gingsburg passes away within the next 5 years so Trump has another pick at the Supreme Court.

that way at least the USA will be safe from the Liberal looneys for at least a few generations.

I find it astonishing that nominations to the Supreme court have become so utterly politicised. I take no sides in this , it seems both Democrats and Republicans resort to the same dirty tricks , blaming one more than the other would be just a childish display of bias.

Nothing , seriously nothing , safeguards freedom more than an independent judiciary , politicians should have absolutely no say in selecting candidates.

It is of course nearly impossible to find people who have no bias whatsoever but some have enough integrity to put personal views aside.

These are the judges who should sit on the bench of the supreme court , not lackies who will toe a particular political line.

7 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

I find it astonishing that nominations to the Supreme court have become so utterly politicised. I take no sides in this , it seems both Democrats and Republicans resort to the same dirty tricks , blaming one more than the other would be just a childish display of bias.

Nothing , seriously nothing , safeguards freedom more than an independent judiciary , politicians should have absolutely no say in selecting candidates.

It is of course nearly impossible to find people who have no bias whatsoever but some have enough integrity to put personal views aside.

These are the judges who should sit on the bench of the supreme court , not lackies who will toe a particular political line.

Too late.

Bush vs. Gore.

Citizens United.

Neil Gorsuch.

 

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Too late.

Bush vs. Gore.

Citizens United.

Neil Gorsuch.

 

Indeed.

 

Tme for democrats to actually BE the <deleted>’s republicans have been accusing them of being all along anyway.

4 hours ago, Thakkar said:

Indeed.

 

Tme for democrats to actually BE the <deleted>’s republicans have been accusing them of being all along anyway.

That's fair enough. But let's not be hypocritical in this MeToo era. If you feel that the allegations against Kav merit his disqualification, then Hillary, that enabler and slut shamer should also be tossed from the body politic.

 

American people aren't stupid. Many of them despise the blatant okay for me but not for thee attitude of the Democrats and their supporters.

I have it from a friend of friend of Kavanagh’s mother that he once spoke harshly to his mother and then left the dinner table without permission when he was 12.  Do we really want a child (man) on the SCOTUS who would abuse his mother in a flagrantly sexist way such as this?  The mother and son should be called in for hearings so that we can really learn about Kavanagh’s character in the home setting and get the mother’s account of the abuse.  If she doesn’t remember the incident we can use a psychotherapist who specializes in memory reconstruction.  This ought to delay Kavanagh’s confirmation until pat the November elections. 

 

 

 

n

 

21 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

That's fair enough. But let's not be hypocritical in this MeToo era. If you feel that the allegations against Kav merit his disqualification, then Hillary, that enabler and slut shamer should also be tossed from the body politic.

 

American people aren't stupid. Many of them despise the blatant okay for me but not for thee attitude of the Democrats and their supporters.

 

In the case of Kavanaugh, the assault (or attempted rape, as the case may be) are now under investigation. Dems are asking that the confirmation vote be delayed till the investigation is complete. Secondly, that Kavanaugh and the republicans produce the documents currently being withheld and that would shed light Kavanaugh’s stand on important legal issues—the kind of light demanded of many previous nominees to this post, nothing more and nothing less.

 

Hillary has not been nominated for any government position, she is not running for any government office. If that changes, you may bring her up. As things stand, She is irrelevant to this discussion.

 

15 minutes ago, DogNo1 said:

I have it from a friend of friend of Kavanagh’s mother that he once spoke harshly to his mother and then left the dinner table without permission when he was 12.  Do we really want a child (man) on the SCOTUS who would abuse his mother in a flagrantly sexist way such as this?  The mother and son should be called in for hearings so that we can really learn about Kavanagh’s character in the home setting and get the mother’s account of the abuse.  If she doesn’t remember the incident we can use a psychotherapist who specializes in memory reconstruction.  This ought to delay Kavanagh’s confirmation until pat the November elections. 

 

 

 

n

 

 

Yes, talking back to one’s parent is just like attempted rape. ?

11 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

 

In the case of Kavanaugh, the assault (or attempted rape, as the case may be) are now under investigation. Dems are asking that the confirmation vote be delayed till the investigation is complete. Secondly, that Kavanaugh and the republicans produce the documents currently being withheld and that would shed light Kavanaugh’s stand on important legal issues—the kind of light demanded of many previous nominees to this post, nothing more and nothing less.

 

Hillary has not been nominated for any government position, she is not running for any government office. If that changes, you may bring her up. As things stand, She is irrelevant to this discussion.

 

Nice sidestep. Shall we talk about Ellison?

 

45 minutes ago, DogNo1 said:

I have it from a friend of friend of Kavanagh’s mother that he once spoke harshly to his mother and then left the dinner table without permission when he was 12.  Do we really want a child (man) on the SCOTUS who would abuse his mother in a flagrantly sexist way such as this?  The mother and son should be called in for hearings so that we can really learn about Kavanagh’s character in the home setting and get the mother’s account of the abuse.  If she doesn’t remember the incident we can use a psychotherapist who specializes in memory reconstruction.  This ought to delay Kavanagh’s confirmation until pat the November elections. 

 

 

 

n

 

Do most "trump" fans think violent sexual assault is a trivial matter? 

There are no perfect people and imperfect people are people who have learned. 

Appealing to the Puritans of America for political gain is worse than what he is accused of. 

In response to the 65 (now down to just 2?) women that supported Kavanaugh, a letter from over 200 women support Dr. Ford's claim!

 

Christine Blasey Ford’s Classmates Claim Her Story is ‘Consistent With Stories’ They’ve Heard

 

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Over 200 female alumnae from Ford’s own highschool, Holton-Arms, have signed a letter of support attesting to Ford’s character and supporting the allegations she has made against Kavanaugh.

 

If the Kavanaugh attempted rape allegations aren't enough, now former court employees are ready to come out against Kavanaugh's cover-up of another judge's sexual predatory behavior. Just one sexual predator protecting another one.

 

Court Employees Ready To Come Forward About Brett Kavanaugh, But Fear Retaliation

 

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During some of the years that Kozinski sat as judge, Brett Kavanaugh was his law clerk. During confirmation hearings, he denied any knowledge of Kozinski’s sexually predatory behavior. In his letter, Sanai says this demonstrated Kavanaugh is “either lying or so willfully blind to judicial misconduct that he should not be appointed."