2 minutes ago, micmichd said:

Ask the Germans for help. They are experienced in building walls.

Nah, trump says, "I build really good walls, really good, the best". He's already the most experienced (according to him anyway).

3 hours ago, Shiver said:

 

I think it was lost in translation, and he meant "build a huge wall of hotels and condos starting at Malaga, and keep those Brits out but make them pay for it with Sangria".

Don't post things like that. If Trump sees your post he'll agree that the 'Sangrians' should pay their share as well.

1 hour ago, Redline said:

Obviously you are clueless about the American electorate ?

They'll go for it because the sand for the cement is already there and free.

Unfortunately this wall does not work. Spain is being flooded now and all "migrants" head to UK, Germany, Sweden, Finland.. If I were to be a taxpayer in those countries I would be more than happy if part of my taxes were used for border control.

 

Spain: Hundreds of migrants storm Spain-Morocco border defences
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFkTluEP8tA

 

Edited September 21, 20187 yr by FinChin67

2 hours ago, Redline said:

Obviously you are clueless about the American electorate ?

But he is still smarter than almost half the American electorate who voted for Trump.

6 hours ago, edwinchester said:

Spain does have a couple of small enclaves in North Africa, Melilla and Cueta, but whether they count as the Sahara is a matter of opinion.

 

hardly a matter of opinion, Melilla and Ceuta are at the Med. foot of Riff

 

Sahara is on the other side  of Atlas

 

14 minutes ago, billd766 said:

But he is still smarter than almost half the American electorate who voted for Trump.

When I was kid 'trump' was a word mother would use. Travelling in the family car her nose would wrinkle and she'd look into the back seat and ask

Did one of you trump?

Just sayin.

There is a much easier solution for Spain. Leave the EU who have inflicted Europe with a major problem of hundreds of thousands migrating from the Middle East to Europe, who tend not to intigrate and form their own enclaves thereby putting up social barriers between them and the indigenous people of the European Countries.  A badly thought out policy by Merkle which is now becoming a nightmare!

22 minutes ago, tubby johnson said:

He commented on the topic. Stop shouting at people and don't try to shut down an open debate.

 

Just sayin'!

OP: 

Donald Trump urged Spain to 'build the wall' – across the Sahara

 

In case you forgot!

I think I know how all this came about. Total misquotes on the whole thing.

Trump was reading an oil company magazine and asked for info on a woman he read about in the magazine.

Who's this Sarah Pipalene?seems she's been laid by 400 men in 3 months. 

He then said build a wall, keep them all out, we don't need people like that trying to come to the USA.

By the time he got around to tweeting he just got a bit more confused.

What Trump really said was "build a wall across the Sahara....and the Saharans will pay for it!" 

I know not all Americans are stupid. But it seems the majority of the voters are stupid and/or ignorant.

Trump did not change since he is president. He is the same moron like he was before the election. And people voted for him.

The USA have the president they deserve.

 

I am sorry for the smart Americans, I know they exist. Please educate the rest of your country. They really need it.

They would have to dig very deep to get the foundations in,

The joke about the Irish navvy ,got sent to the Sahara to do

some work,there one day,says I 'm getting outta here before

they bring the cement in.

regards Worgeordie

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3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I know not all Americans are stupid. But it seems the majority of the voters are stupid and/or ignorant.

Trump did not change since he is president. He is the same moron like he was before the election. And people voted for him.

The USA have the president they deserve.

 

I am sorry for the smart Americans, I know they exist. Please educate the rest of your country. They really need it.

Less that 50% voted for him...

 

And many of those that did thought the stories about him being a Moron was fake news, and others thought a Moron was a person of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints...

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I know not all Americans are stupid. But it seems the majority of the voters are stupid and/or ignorant.

Trump did not change since he is president. He is the same moron like he was before the election. And people voted for him.

The USA have the president they deserve.

 

I am sorry for the smart Americans, I know they exist. Please educate the rest of your country. They really need it.

Actually, Trump came in second in the popular vote. On the other hand, Brexit got an outright majority. When it comes to stupidity and ignorance, I'd say the UK voters are ahead on points But I will concede it's a close race.

12 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Less that 50% voted for him...

 

And many of those that did thought the stories about him being a Moron was fake news, and others thought a Moron was a person of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints...

That's a post that requires further discussion. ???

14 hours ago, pegman said:

And half of all Americans nod in agreement.

 

Nope - less than one-fifth, but that's probably cold comfort.  If we're talking about just the voting population, then it's just over one-quarter at 27%.

 

Edited September 21, 20187 yr by attrayant

 

Apologies for this being a bit basic but  I have driven many  times in  the Sahara -  sand blows  in the desert and doesn't stop for Trump a dumpy walls or   anything .

 

Given  just a few years  ,  the  average   height  would be  immigrant  could just    -   step over it .

 

Don’t worry Spain we will soon have our wall it’s called Leavenworth it should keep the world safe from trump lol

16 hours ago, pegman said:

And half of all Americans nod in agreement.

I’m thinking more than half as the majority in the Presidential election either voted for someone else or did not vote at all. He was put in office by a minority and his “popularity” has gone down ever since.

2 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Actually, Trump came in second in the popular vote. On the other hand, Brexit got an outright majority. When it comes to stupidity and ignorance, I'd say the UK voters are ahead on points But I will concede it's a close race.

Let us focus on the motivating forces being the same in both ceases. The economic squeeze of the working middle class over the last 30-40 years. The citizens are reacting to this fact.

6 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Let us focus on the motivating forces being the same in both ceases. The economic squeeze of the working middle class over the last 30-40 years. The citizens are reacting to this fact.

Even though worker productivity has tremendously increased over the past 30 years, virtually all the benefit of that increased productivity went to the weallthiest Ameriicans. The trend got underway during the Reagan administration. Big tax cuts on the highest brackets meant it made sense for the owner and executive classes to keep all the increased profits for themselves. That and the Republicans largely successful campaign against unions.

So, it not primarily about the Chinese taking jobs away. 

Goodness me-another Publius Aelius Hadrianus Augustus.

 

Without the class,intelligence,finesse,military acumen or charisma..actually,without anything at all that anyone has been able to detect.

 

I am sure that the Spanish will be thrilled.

 

 

Edited September 21, 20187 yr by Odysseus123

18 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Let us focus on the motivating forces being the same in both ceases. The economic squeeze of the working middle class over the last 30-40 years. The citizens are reacting to this fact.

not difficult to agree with that reasoning,

but quite tricky to understand that citizens opt for Trump and the Tories when they react

 

as if Trump/Tories have the well being of the working class at heart . . . .

 

(similarities happen in a bunch of countries in this time of conservative winds . . . .)

22 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Let us focus on the motivating forces being the same in both ceases. The economic squeeze of the working middle class over the last 30-40 years. The citizens are reacting to this fact.

not difficult to agree with that reasoning,

but quite tricky to understand that citizens opt for Trump and the Tories when they react

 

as if Trump/Tories have the well being of the working class at heart . . . .

 

(similarities happen in a bunch of countries in this time of conservative winds . . . .)

Just now, melvinmelvin said:

not difficult to agree with that reasoning,

but quite tricky to understand that citizens opt for Trump and the Tories when they react

 

as if Trump/Tories have the well being of the working class at heart . . . .

 

(similarities happen in a bunch of countries in this time of conservative winds . . . .)

I agree with you.

 

It is a peculiarity of hard times that the urban middle class-skilled working class will cleave to a radical conservatism more so than a radical liberalism.

 

There is no doubt that the traditional middle classes in the West have been squeezed until the pips have squeaked with no end in sight.

9 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

not difficult to agree with that reasoning,

but quite tricky to understand that citizens opt for Trump and the Tories when they react

 

as if Trump/Tories have the well being of the working class at heart . . . .

 

(similarities happen in a bunch of countries in this time of conservative winds . . . .)

Agree. They are blaming immigration, and therefore the parties seen as immigration friendly, Labour and Democrats. It is more an against vote than a pro vote.

9 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Agree. They are blaming immigration, and therefore the parties seen as immigration friendly, Labour and Democrats. It is more an against vote than a pro vote.

There are limits to this strategy. Remember when George Bush ran in 2004 on an anti gay marriage platform to get this base to the polls. After that victory he announced plans to privatize social security. 

It looks like something similar is happening in this elections. 'Republican attorney generals are leading a campaign in the courts to have the mandatory  Obamacare acceptance of people with pre-exisiting conditions ruled unconstitutional. Democrats have been campaigning on that issue. Republicans have been running from it.