How to Season My money

[Nyezhov]

None of my banks will do a Swift transfer from the US unless I go there in person. Kind of hard if I am here, not there.

 

So I have to use Transferwise or etc. But what about the problem of showing that the cash came from overseas? Could I go to the bank and do a counter withdrawel and deposit that immediately? Would that work?

 

 

 

[wgdanson]

Transferwise transfers show FTT on MY Bkk Bank statement, both in my book and online. I can do UK to THB SWIFT transfers online no problem.

[Nyezhov]

3 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

Transferwise transfers show FTT on MY Bkk Bank statement, both in my book and online. I can do UK to THB SWIFT transfers online no problem.

My banks in the US say no

[wgdanson]

Just now, Nyezhov said:

My banks in the US say no

Move to UK then !!!! lol

[FritsSikkink]

What if you open an account with:

 

Bangkok Bank New York Branch Bangkok Bank PCL New York Branch 29 Broadway, 20th Floor, New York NY 10006 Tel: (1-212) 422-8200 Fax: (1-212) 422-0728 Swift: BKKB US 33 Telex:(023) 175459 BKBK UT E-mail: [email protected] FED Routing No: 026008691 CHIPS ABA: 0869

[Nyezhov]

7 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

What if you open an account with:

 

Bangkok Bank New York Branch Bangkok Bank PCL New York Branch 29 Broadway, 20th Floor, New York NY 10006 Tel: (1-212) 422-8200 Fax: (1-212) 422-0728 Swift: BKKB US 33 Telex:(023) 175459 BKBK UT E-mail: [email protected] FED Routing No: 026008691 CHIPS ABA: 0869

then you get Union Pay instead of Visa.

[FritsSikkink]

1 minute ago, Nyezhov said:

then you get Union Pay instead of Visa.

what has that to do with your transfer issue?

[ubonjoe]

7 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

What if you open an account with:

It is not possible to open an account at hte New York branch of Bangkok Bank. You can only do transfers via it to a an account opened here.

[Nyezhov]

34 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

what has that to do with your transfer issue?

Im not going to have my ATMs and any other banking issues tied up with the Chinese. Personal preference. I already have an accopunt at Krungsri that I would like to fund.;

[ubonjoe]

22 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

But what about the problem of showing that the cash came from overseas?

That is only needed to apply for a non immigrant visa (category O) at immigration.

Not needed for annual extension applications.

FYI I have a visa card from Bangkok Bank I got before the Union Pay thing started. Now I have both cards and just use the Union Pay for ATM's.

You could open an account at Bangkok Bank just for the transfers in and then move it to your Krungsri account.

[Nyezhov]

5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That is only needed to apply for a non immigrant visa (category O) at immigration.

Not needed for annual extension applications.

But dont I need the cash in the bank on the intial application? I have also been thinking of going the combo route, as I dont know if I want to put all that cash into a foreign bank....

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

But dont I need the cash in the bank on the intial application? I have also been thinking of going the combo route, as I dont know if I want to put all that cash into a foreign bank....

Only to apply for a non immigrant visa applied for at immigration. For the one first and all extension applications is not needed.

If you need to get a single entry non-o visa you can get one in Savannakhet or Penang. You would need to show the money in the bank (no need to prove where it came from) and proof your are retired. Doing a income affidavit at the US embassy would satisfy the proof of retirement.

The combination of the 2 is a good option if you can show your income.

[Nyezhov]

4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Only to apply for a non immigrant visa applied for at immigration. For the one first and all extension applications is not needed.

If you need to get a single entry non-o visa you can get one in Savannakhet or Penang. You would need to show the money in the bank (no need to prove where it came from) and proof your are retired. Doing a income affidavit at the US embassy would satisfy the proof of retirement.

The combination of the 2 is a good option if you can show your income.

I was just going to use my social security, then cover the rest with cash in the bank. So all I need then is my bank statement and an affidavit from the embassy and a trip to Savannakhet? Could I do the same in Phnom Phen. I guess I am confused because I see so many threads talking about the source of funds.

[lopburi3]

As said it should not be required to have such international transfer proof and transferwise deposits to Bangkok Bank here have been notated as international transfers on my account in any case.

 

If you have family or trusted friends in US they could send the wire for you.  Most US banks indeed require you set up SWIFT type wire transfer agreement in person - once that is done most have online or phone systems to make transfers.

 

Most Consulates will not issue a non immigrant O visa for retirement as there is a specific O-A from home country designed for that - the Laos mentioned options is an exception.

 

[Nyezhov]

5 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

As said it should not be required to have such international transfer proof and transferwise deposits to Bangkok Bank here have been notated as international transfers on my account in any case.

 

If you have family or trusted friends in US they could send the wire for you.  Most US banks indeed require you set up SWIFT type wire transfer agreement in person - once that is done most have online or phone systems to make transfers.

 

Most Consulates will not issue a non immigrant O visa for retirement as there is a specific O-A from home country designed for that - the Laos mentioned options is an exception.

 

OK so thats why Savannakhet is mentioned...check.

 

Im an idiot and did not set up a transfer method before I left

[ubonjoe]

1 hour ago, Nyezhov said:

I was just going to use my social security, then cover the rest with cash in the bank. So all I need then is my bank statement and an affidavit from the embassy and a trip to Savannakhet? Could I do the same in Phnom Phen. I guess I am confused because I see so many threads talking about the source of funds.

There have been few reports for Phnom Phen issuing non-o visas for being over 50. I can recall one report by a member getting his application accepted after waiting for an hour or two.

I mentioned Savannakhet and Penang since there have beens several reports of getting a non-o without a problem.

No need to prove the source of the money.

[Nyezhov]

27 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

There have been few reports for Phnom Phen issuing non-o visas for being over 50. I can recall one report by a member getting his application accepted after waiting for an hour or two.

I mentioned Savannakhet and Penang since there have beens several reports of getting a non-o without a problem.

No need to prove the source of the money.

Im way over 50! Im doddering and toothless! I slobber too!

 

Does any of that help?

[rumak]

13 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Im way over 50! Im doddering and toothless! I slobber too!

 

Does any of that help?

Is that photo the one you use on the dating sites ?  

[Nyezhov]

6 minutes ago, rumak said:

Is that photo the one you use on the dating sites ?  

Yes except I have a 1000 baht bill pasted to my forehead.

[dotpoom]

19 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Could I go to the bank and do a counter withdrawel and deposit that immediately? Would that work?

If you are here in Thailand like you say you are...and do the above...how would that money show as having come from "outside Thailand"?

You could I suppose convert it into another currency and back again.

[Nyezhov]

1 hour ago, dotpoom said:

If you are here in Thailand like you say you are...and do the above...how would that money show as having come from "outside Thailand"?

You could I suppose convert it into another currency and back again.

Why would you think I am not here, just being snide? Where are you then?

 

I meant a counter withdrawel of money in the USA, duh...

 

Got an opinion then? A worthwhile one?

[ubonjoe]

10 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Im way over 50!

The 50 or over is the basis for issuing the non-o visa.

Calculate your annual income from social security, transfer the difference between your income and 800k baht, then add some to it for currency fluctuations and transfer it in. Then do a income affidavit in the amount for your social security payments. Info here: https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/local-resources-of-u-s-citizens/notaries-public/income-affidavit/

Then make a trip to Savannakhet or Penang for the single entry non-o visa. Have your updated bank book plus copies of it and the income affidavit (keep the original) plus a copy to attach to the visa application form.

A income affidavit will be accepted at immigration that is up to 6 months old. 

Then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry from the non-o visa, use the affidavit, a letter from the bank and copies of your updated bank book to apply for the one year extension at immigration.

[Kieran00001]

13 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

That is only needed to apply for a non immigrant visa (category O) at immigration.

Not needed for annual extension applications.

FYI I have a visa card from Bangkok Bank I got before the Union Pay thing started. Now I have both cards and just use the Union Pay for ATM's.

You could open an account at Bangkok just for the transfers in and then move it to your Krungsri account.

 

When my Bangkok Bank visa card expired they called me in for a replacement and offered me the Union Pay for free or for a small fee I could have another visa card.

[ubonjoe]

17 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

When my Bangkok Bank visa card expired they called me in for a replacement and offered me the Union Pay for free or for a small fee I could have another visa card.

They don't have any Visa cards left now.

Mine is still is valid until 2022. Keeping it safe for online purchases and such. It cost me 200 baht to get the Union Pay because I kept my Visa card.

[Kieran00001]

9 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

They don't have any Visa cards left now.

Mine is still is valid until 2022. Keeping it safe for online purchases and such. It cost me 200 baht to get the Union Pay because I kept my Visa card.

 

I won't even try to understand their reasoning.

[Mbaki]

14 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

That is only needed to apply for a non immigrant visa (category O) at immigration.

Not needed for annual extension applications.

FYI I have a visa card from Bangkok Bank I got before the Union Pay thing started. Now I have both cards and just use the Union Pay for ATM's.

You could open an account at Bangkok Bank just for the transfers in and then move it to your Krungsri account.

I got a visa debt card from bkk bank after they brought in the union pay card. I told them I didn’t want the union pay card but had to wait 2 weeks before I could pick up my Visa card.

[Nyezhov]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

The 50 or over is the basis for issuing the non-o visa.

Calculate your annual income from social security, transfer the difference between your income and 800k baht, then add some to it for currency fluctuations and transfer it in. Then do a income affidavit in the amount for your social security payments. Info here: https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/local-resources-of-u-s-citizens/notaries-public/income-affidavit/

Then make a trip to Savannakhet or Penang for the single entry non-o visa. Have your updated bank book plus copies of it and the income affidavit (keep the original) plus a copy to attach to the visa application form.

A income affidavit will be accepted at immigration that is up to 6 months old. 

Then during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry from the non-o visa, use the affidavit, a letter from the bank and copies of your updated bank book to apply for the one year extension at immigration.

OK. Joe as usual you are the best. So let me rewrite it so I can make sure I got it, due to my inherent stupidity:

1. Make sure Im over 50. Check, easy.

2. Do my income affidavit at embassy.

3. Dump the difference in the bank ( would I assume its best to do counter withdrawals from my US bank or just atm it in, or do Transferwise?)

4. Head to Savannakhet or Penang with the paperwork.

5. Get my non O

6. Wait 60 days and then get my extension.

 

Am I right so far? Because then I have follow ups....

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

3. Dump the difference in the bank ( would I assume its best to do counter withdrawals from my US bank or just atm it in, or do Transferwise?)

Not sure how you could withdraw the funds at the bank in the US while here. ATM would be costly I think. Transferwise would be OK.

7 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Am I right so far? Because then I have follow ups....

Yes

[Nyezhov]

OK...now here is the kicker I cant (and dont want to )be here this summer, I need to get back to the US Aprilish. Nor do I think I want to be here all year regardlesss...

 

Does the extension allow me to be half on, half off so to speak...

[ubonjoe]

27 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Does the extension allow me to be half on, half off so to speak..

You can be out of the country for as long as you want to. You just have to sure you have a re-entry permit when you leave.

You only have to be here to apply for your new extension every year.