snoop1130 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Desperate City Hall Doubles Fine for Undeterred Sidewalk Motorists By Jintamas Saksornchai, Staff Reporter A motorcycle taxi on a sidewalk in Bangkok. Photo: Thailand Footpath / Facebook BANGKOK — City Hall on Thursday said the number of motorcycle jockeys on sidewalks is almost unchanged even after more than 3 million baht in fines were collected from them in the past three months. While admitting that setting up more checkpoints across Bangkok failed to clear motorcyclists from sidewalks, Deputy Gov. Sakoltee Phattiyakul said the minimum fine had recently been increased from 500 baht to 1,000 baht, hoping it would discourage further violations of the law. Full Story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/bangkok/2018/10/11/desperate-city-hall-doubles-fine-for-undeterred-sidewalk-motorists/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-10-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: ".....even after more than 3 million baht in fines were collected". Typo mistake maybe. I think that's meant to read 3 million baht in fines were issued; zero fines collected, except for those without a receipt. The boys in brown can see a winner here and have convinced City Hall to double the take, most of which is in cash and returned to city hall pockets. No flies on these boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcula Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Yawn. Here comes the expected knee-jerk after the moto GP guy's comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Changing a behavior, a national one.. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 4 hours ago, snoop1130 said: City Hall on Thursday said the number of motorcycle jockeys on sidewalks is almost unchanged even after more than 3 million baht in fines were collected from them in the past three months. Need to extreme it up a bit .. Try those Stinger nail carpet things an' if it still ain't getting thru' RPG's .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithai12 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 5 hours ago, snoop1130 said: 3 million baht in fines were collected from them in the past three months at 500B each, that translates to less than 70 offenders fined per day. A drop in the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 From what I've seen around lower Sukhumvit, both the regular cops and the Tessaban City Hall cops seem to basically ignore the entire thing. I've seen members of both groups slouching around and along Sukhumvit Road, motorcyclists driving down the sidewalks, and never seen either group stop/cite any of them. Perhaps because the offenders are often motocy taxi rank guys who are, AFAIK, paying off the cops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 no motosai!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I had a cop and his motorbike coming against me on the pavement yesterday, I was on a bicycle. No helmet cop. So he broke all the rules in the book he is supposed to follow. Changes ? Forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 This is typical Thai Bureaucrat 101-ism... "But, I wrote a new regulation, how come the problem isn't solved?" There are laws requiring motorcycle helmets, people don't wear helmets. There are laws against prostitution, there are prostitutes. There are laws against selling booze during certain hours, you can buy booze around the clock. There are laws against insider trading, you can trade on inside information. There are laws against polluting, you can pollute. There are laws against coups, you can launch a coup. There are laws against embezzling funds, you can embezzle funds. There are laws against nepotism, you can hire all the family you want. There are laws against ____________, you can ______________. And somehow, Thai bureaucrats wonder why the problem(s) isn't solved... Seriously, they do wonder... Go figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhorse Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I had a cop and his motorbike coming against me on the pavement yesterday, I was on a bicycle. No helmet cop. So he broke all the rules in the book he is supposed to follow. Changes ? Forget it. Nothing wrong with cops riding footpaths in a nightmare traffic city if they are looking for bad guys. Would it be better if they just took and extra hour by lining up in traffic?Forget the cops and postman who take short cuts and focus on lazy somchai motorbike taxi pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 3 hours ago, blackhorse said: Nothing wrong with cops riding footpaths in a nightmare traffic city if they are looking for bad guys. Would it be better if they just took and extra hour by lining up in traffic? Forget the cops and postman who take short cuts and focus on lazy somchai motorbike taxi pls What do you mean "forget the cops."? The law should cover everyone. They are not looking for bad guys. Most of those that I see on the footpath are on their way to 7/11, or home or something/. Why should they be any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelJohn Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 It's so much easier now they've got rid of the shops on the pavement it's like a clear two lane highway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Undeterred Sidewalk Motorists Just highlights their utter contempt for the law, but when you are at the bottom of the food chain and probably the most exploited of all road users it's little wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: City Hall on Thursday said the number of motorcycle jockeys on sidewalks is almost unchanged Not a problem here in Chiang Mai though as the cars parked on the sidewalk keep the motorcyclists off. I'm assuming parking cars on the sidewalk is perfectly legal as I've never seen a CM BIB do anything about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtsie Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I walk to work on Asoke every day. The traffic (blocking) control cop at the Crossroads turns his back every time someone without a helmet comes by or guys ride their bikes on the sidewalk causing all us pedestrians to scatter. Now again down toward Soi Cowboy, the side walk parking lots and toilets are back in full swing between the Pullman and Las Colinas. The public piss on the wall toilets never went away, but it used to be nice for 6 months to be able to walk on the sidewalk without possibly getting a cut from a motorcycle parked across the sidewalk. Back out on to Asoke to get by again..... safer dodging traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Desperate City Hall City Hall is desperate PM works too much Police worry about their reputation Big Joke arrests a guy some news never change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaichiro Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Big Joke needs to have some clones made to clean things up here in Angel City. You would think with the “3million” collected the could install more WORKING video and cops to enforce the law. But they would rather remain “ desperate” and give up. The same is true with the belching buses all over that should be required to clean up but somehow evade the men in brown. What frauds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Impound the bikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 connda, depends who u are. I would not try it if I where you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Confiscate the bike; 5,000 baht fine to redeem it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Aussieroaming said: Impound the bikes And crush them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: This is typical Thai Bureaucrat 101-ism... "But, I wrote a new regulation, how come the problem isn't solved?" There are laws requiring motorcycle helmets, people don't wear helmets. There are laws against prostitution, there are prostitutes. There are laws against selling booze during certain hours, you can buy booze around the clock. There are laws against insider trading, you can trade on inside information. There are laws against polluting, you can pollute. There are laws against coups, you can launch a coup. There are laws against embezzling funds, you can embezzle funds. There are laws against nepotism, you can hire all the family you want. There are laws against ____________, you can ______________. And somehow, Thai bureaucrats wonder why the problem(s) isn't solved... Seriously, they do wonder... Go figure... Whether something is illegal or not has absolutely no relevance in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Nice try but fines don't work. They don't change behaviour. You need to impound the vehicles and levy heavy fines. Having been a victim of a sidewalk motorcyclist I support very high penalties for this offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Looking at the pictures posted, I can't see what hazzard these motorcyclists could do to the nonexistent pedestrians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unamazedloso Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 jockeys? wheres the horses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhorse Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Looking at the pictures posted, I can't see what hazzard these motorcyclists could do to the nonexistent pedestrians. At exactly the right moment I could show you a pic of Sukhumvit Rd that appears empty as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 As with Road Racers they should crush the Bikes and keep crushing them until they learn these things will not be tolerated. You can't fix stupid by doubling fines ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 35 minutes ago, Vacuum said: Looking at the pictures posted, I can't see what hazzard these motorcyclists could do to the nonexistent pedestrians. If you've attempted to make a relevant reply, I think it was an abysmal failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 hours ago, connda said: Not a problem here in Chiang Mai though as the cars parked on the sidewalk keep the motorcyclists off. I'm assuming parking cars on the sidewalk is perfectly legal as I've never seen a CM BIB do anything about them. In 2016 my car was clamped in Chiang Mai , I parked on the sidewalk. Had to go to police station and pay the fine before they would unclamp it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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