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Czech arrested on Koh Tao after overstaying visa 6 years


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I find the posts here about an ILLEGAL getting away with living in Thailand confusing. Weak countries allow ILLEGALS to wander around free and for so many supposed expats thinking this kind of behavior is acceptable and commendable is repulsive to me. I am watching ILLEGALS wantonly crossing the borders of my old country of Canada to be thrown on the backs of taxpayers. I know that ILLEGALS in Thailand are on their own dime but they are still ILLEGAL in my mind and need to be deported and banned. After following immigration rules in Thailand for 30 years I am now in the process of getting "permanent Visa" in the Philippines. It is a lot of work but this is not my country any more than Thailand was but I totally respect a country keeping track of legals and deporting ILLEGALS. 

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6 hours ago, sanemax said:

But how would they track people down ?

Finding out where they live ?

That's where the fun begins and a little detective work.  How about posting ads or a most wanted list online?  Many people live to rat other people out.  Thai Crimewatch.tv, bustedfarang.com.  Check their immigration or visa records for their last known banking information, or financial proof transactions.  Lots of ways to try and find people.  Of course in general any caucasian stands out from how Thais look, and if immigration or the cops played hard ball, they literally could stop any and every foreigner they see.  It would not take long before they found some violation.  Of course that would not please all the legitimate ex pats or tourists. 

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8 minutes ago, taipan1949 said:

I find the posts here about an ILLEGAL getting away with living in Thailand confusing. Weak countries allow ILLEGALS to wander around free and for so many supposed expats thinking this kind of behavior is acceptable and commendable is repulsive to me. I am watching ILLEGALS wantonly crossing the borders of my old country of Canada to be thrown on the backs of taxpayers. I know that ILLEGALS in Thailand are on their own dime but they are still ILLEGAL in my mind and need to be deported and banned. After following immigration rules in Thailand for 30 years I am now in the process of getting "permanent Visa" in the Philippines. It is a lot of work but this is not my country any more than Thailand was but I totally respect a country keeping track of legals and deporting ILLEGALS. 

Oh you mean in America where as long as one is a "documented illegal alien" they run little risk of getting in trouble.  In fact I recall some midwest banks that were actively seeking out and encouraging lending to help out such people.  Good old organized consolidated US of A.

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16 hours ago, sanemax said:

Until you get caught , jailed , deported, blacklisted and lose everything you have in Thailand , including any family  

Well, if he loses everything, that's his own fault for not getting a proper visa. 

People who overstay for years and then get caught are not victims.

The immigration department has the right, actually it's a duty, to carry out the immigration laws.

 

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2 hours ago, wolf81 said:

Whenever you stay anywhere (be it at a hotel, a person's home, etc…) the owners of the place have to report you to immigration within the first 24 hours.

Absolutely nobody bothers.

In the 10 years I've rented and purchased in Thailand, only Top North Guesthouse in Chaing Mai ever made the effort.

And even they didn't bother when I had a room one night for a 'romantic meeting'.

I've totted up around 2 years of non-reported hotel stays, 3 years of non-reported private house rental stays, and 5 years of non-reported house ownership stay. 

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4 hours ago, Tradewind777 said:

He ran out of brown envelopes obviously...

Ok my turn,maybe they got tired of being told,wait for it!!!

'The chech is in the mail!!!'

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1 hour ago, taipan1949 said:

I find the posts here about an ILLEGAL getting away with living in Thailand confusing. Weak countries allow ILLEGALS to wander around free and for so many supposed expats thinking this kind of behavior is acceptable and commendable is repulsive to me. I am watching ILLEGALS wantonly crossing the borders of my old country of Canada to be thrown on the backs of taxpayers. I know that ILLEGALS in Thailand are on their own dime but they are still ILLEGAL in my mind and need to be deported and banned. After following immigration rules in Thailand for 30 years I am now in the process of getting "permanent Visa" in the Philippines. It is a lot of work but this is not my country any more than Thailand was but I totally respect a country keeping track of legals and deporting ILLEGALS. 

It seems to me it is one hell of a lot easier to keep illegals from entering if you live on an island.no need to built a wall,like some stupid people want to do.

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16 hours ago, Jeremy50 said:

Pattaya is where they should be, not pissing about on Koh Tao.  Anyway, six years on Koh Tao, it's remarkable the man is still alive. 

True. During my stay there to complete a Divemaster course, in one month I came down with Dengue fever. That was it for me. The diving season was over. 

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3 hours ago, twig said:

The nerve of such criminals to stay within some invisible lines on a map LONGER than allowed by men in brown shirts with shiny badges!

I agree. It should be like in the EU countries, where you throw away your passport at the border and claim asylum. No stupid visa regulations there, clever governments in that part of the world.

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Is this information worth going further than the newsletter on the island?
At least he has a 'good reason' to start all over again.


I have a family here, never overstayed even for one day in any country
but with all the degradation of foreigners here maybe we should envy

him with his new beginning...

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3 minutes ago, marqus12 said:

Is this information worth going further than the newsletter on the island?
At least he has a 'good reason' to start all over again.


I have a family here, never overstayed even for one day in any country
but with all the degradation of foreigners here maybe we should envy

him with his new beginning...

depends if he has anything to go back to. If he had a decent income he would have had a visa.

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28 minutes ago, Vacuum said:

I agree. It should be like in the EU countries, where you throw away your passport at the border and claim asylum. No stupid visa regulations there, clever governments in that part of the world.

Exactly. And the waves of asylum seekers to EU has nothing to do with the local EU brown-shirts looting their own populations to buy votes with all kinds of "free" social services.

 

The refugees just show up because they like to throw away passports, claiming asylum, the cooler weather, being in a place where the locals don't speak their language, leaving behind all their belongings  they bought over the course of their lives, and so on. 

 

Back to this outrageous Czech criminal though: I want to specifically attract your attention to the expression of callous disregard on Willie Wonka's face for rent-seeking rules of the men in brown-shirts with shiny badges.

 

I often wondered where Willie Wonka claimed asylum and retired after that whole candy factory gig.

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6 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

This will happen more and more if they really start a hard crackdown on low income earners. At the end of the day, some people have nothing to return to their country for - no house to live in and not enough money to live on that can provide food and a roof over their heads at Western prices.

 

Risk of getting caught or homelessness and destitution in their own country ? Not really a hard choice to risk the law in some cases.

 

I'm quite lucky in that regard. I still own my UK house and use the rental income, but I really feel for many people that I know that do not have any fall back, other than to hide form the Thai authorities if there is a serious clampdown.

 

 

Not necessarily true most western countries are civilised unlike Thailand, they have something called a Duty of Care

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RE - A european man was arrested and charged Monday with overstaying his visa for six years on Koh Tao.

 

Nothing last forever neither luck nor paradise - MotherWinter here I come dressed in only a t-shirt and a pair of slippers....

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It's all right to joke about these things but some people are really getting worried about their options...

I'm talking about the younger person, say age between 30 to 50 who has come over here, got married and ploughed everything into setting up a home and business for the wife.. the only option for him to work is as a teacher (if he's qualified), most other things are prohibited..

Now they find themselves without the requisite lump sum in the bank nor the monthly income required...

question is what are they now supposed to do to stay here?

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it would appear that every country is becoming stricter on immigration - some countries even want to build walls...

The USA, UK will also blacklist you for overstaying visas (and being caught and deported).  Same same

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3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Absolutely nobody bothers.

In the 10 years I've rented and purchased in Thailand, only Top North Guesthouse in Chaing Mai ever made the effort.

And even they didn't bother when I had a room one night for a 'romantic meeting'.

I've totted up around 2 years of non-reported hotel stays, 3 years of non-reported private house rental stays, and 5 years of non-reported house ownership stay. 

Last year me and my wife checked in a 5* hotel in Pattaya, my wife did the talk at the reception. When she was finished i still stood there with my passport which they hadn't seen, so i asked her if they needed it and she said nope...her passport was enough.

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If they enter anything in the records and have any sort of rudimentary database, it should be easy and fairly quick to do some searches or queries and find the gaps.  No doubt thousands of missing or incomplete records, name errors, passport errors.  But fine, start there look for entry date and exit date.  No find?  Dig and look deeper


Database? You mean like on a computer? This is Thailand. Let’s take it one step at a time.


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