HalfLight Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 hours ago, joecoolfrog said: I remember a couple of years back stating that Thai tourism was heading for a fall , citing Spain as an example. Poor service , failure to upgrade infrastructure , lack of long term planning and sheer greed is a recipe for disaster. At the time my views were dismissed as ' Thai bashing ' , they are looking pretty accurate now. In my experience, people draw the 'Thai bashing' card when they have nothing more intelligent to say, and it is whatever one wants it to be if it differs from one's own, often myopic, view of how things really are in Thailand. Selective misanthropy is the only rational answer, hard of hearing is one thing, hard of thinking is quita another. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfLight Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Sir Dude said: There is very little respect for any law here and the only god is the baht. Thais drank the 'we are free people' koolaid with vigour. I've lived in EU, USA and half a dozen other places, I've yet to see a population enslaved by lies and corruption quite as badly as Thais. Still, it's up to them, no skin ofo my nose and I haven't suffered one whit from the presence of Uncle too - except insofar as the economy is dire. Still. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, HalfLight said: In my experience, people draw the 'Thai bashing' card when they have nothing more intelligent to say, and it is whatever one wants it to be if it differs from one's own, often myopic, view of how things really are in Thailand. Selective misanthropy is the only rational answer, hard of hearing is one thing, hard of thinking is quita another. What's also true is that in most peoples' original countries there always has been and always will be criticism of laws and regulations, how many things are handled etc., etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfLight Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 9 hours ago, Deli said: Bring back the Russians, they don't spit around and girls are often pretty, with long and straight legs ???? Straight... I heard the women in Thailand were slim and pretty and I'm sure that some are. But whoever it was that said that, never went very far. Fat and ugly sums up most of the ones I see every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfLight Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, scorecard said: What's also true is that in most peoples' original countries there always has been and always will be criticism of laws and regulations, how many things are handled etc., etc. Yes, thats true, and when I read the comment, the loathesome image of Theresa May in those ridiculous jackets sprang to mind. But it's a question of degree, Saying there is crime and disregard for law in Europe may well be true, in fact I'm sure it is true, but it doesn't make Germany into Thailand, or Germans into Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 A good start would be educating the whole population from an early age how to respect themselves, their country and visitors to it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Valentine said: New tourism minister is now trying to get the quality tourists back. To do so would require a big makeover in how tourism is run here like thinking about tomorrow instead of just gouging the tourists today They are funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 56 minutes ago, Media1 said: They are funny Funny, greedy and clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkokazy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Thailand has been used as a holiday country. Now there are only bad guys go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quandow Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Hey Deputy Prime Minister Somkid Jatusripitak - We have a saying that goes like this: "Too little too late." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 The Chinese have bought up Sihanoukville in Cambodia and other resort towns in Vietnam and turning them into Chinatowns with casinos everywhere, because there are no restrictions there so Chinese business investors can put the money in their own pockets. Thailand can stop dreaming now , tourism will be dead within 10 years if they keep it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchful Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 14 hours ago, simoh1490 said: Chinese friends tell us this is a currency issue, the Yuan is down by 10% thanks to Trumps trade war, that's why they are not coming here, but they are visiting Japan in droves apparently. The Yuan currency decline certainly makes Thailand more expensive than other destinations, but that's not the entire story. The Chinese have implemented currency controls to prevent the flight of Yuan from China. In addition, the trade war has severely limited Foreign direct investment in China, so the government is stepping in, but already has a serious debt problem. My guess is Chinese leaders would rather see their citizens buying bonds rather than traveling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Watchful said: The Yuan currency decline certainly makes Thailand more expensive than other destinations, but that's not the entire story. The Chinese have implemented currency controls to prevent the flight of Yuan from China. In addition, the trade war has severely limited Foreign direct investment in China, so the government is stepping in, but already has a serious debt problem. My guess is Chinese leaders would rather see their citizens buying bonds rather than traveling. Yes I agree, Chinese around where we live are quite well-heeled and seem to have found ways to circumvent the capital flight aspect, I also agree that FDI and shadow banking are significant issues but that can't be long lived, the fundamentals of China as an economy remain intact so it's just a matter of time before things improve considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchful Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, simoh1490 said: Yes I agree, Chinese around where we live are quite well-heeled and seem to have found ways to circumvent the capital flight aspect, I also agree that FDI and shadow banking are significant issues but that can't be long lived, the fundamentals of China as an economy remain intact so it's just a matter of time before things improve considerably. I agree things should improve, but... and a very big BUT is IP theft. Trump administration has made visible what has been known, but not talked about. CEO's around the world will face serious backlash from their shareholders if they continue to ignore this serious problem. Meanwhile, the Chinese refuse to admit there is even a problem. This could go on for quite a while. I'm not optimistic of a quick resolution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, Watchful said: I agree things should improve, but... and a very big BUT is IP theft. Trump administration has made visible what has been known, but not talked about. CEO's around the world will face serious backlash from their shareholders if they continue to ignore this serious problem. Meanwhile, the Chinese refuse to admit there is even a problem. This could go on for quite a while. I'm not optimistic of a quick resolution. 1 The counterfeiting/copying industry in the East is huge, it's said that in Thailand at least, there's a 24 hour window before a good product that's new to the market gets copied by the factories in the North and in China, that is lots of small businesses at work plus some that are not so small. If China were to crack down on IP rights it would take time for the market to eradicate the practice throughout the region, somewhere I imagine in the order of twenty years or more. So I don't think that government legislation is going to end the practice, what might do it much more quickly however is the public's desire for higher quality products and as people become more wealthy, that could happen quite quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 11/3/2018 at 3:34 PM, Dave67 said: The Chinese tourists are spreading their wings and ruining other SE Asian countries Vietnam and Malaysia and Cambodia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Yes please come back and smoke, we will fine you 5000 baht. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Some off topic posts and the replies have been removed. A post that contained an altered headline has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 All you can eat shrimp . Free boat rides. Should do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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