Phoenix recovery team yet to arrive

[webfact]

Phoenix recovery team yet to arrive

By Tavee Adam

 

Divers with the Spitz Tech Co Ltd salvage team assess their next step in the months-long attempts to recover the ‘Phoenix’, before they abandoned the project. Photo: PR Dept

 

PHUKET: A new salvage team to try to recover the sunken tour boat Phoenix has yet to arrive in Phuket, Maj Ekkachai Siri of Tourist Police confirmed this morning (Nov 8).

 

The news follows reports that the salvage team had arrived to start their recovery efforts yesterday.

 

“A company from Singapore is the new operator to recover the Phoenix, and will use a 1,000-tonne crane to raise the boat,” Maj Ekkachai told The Phuket News today.

Read more at https://www.thephuketnews.com/phoenix-recovery-team-yet-to-arrive-69276.php#wZ8GidluhrDLoIwo.99

 

-- © Copyright Phuket News 2018-11-08

[norfolkc]

Sounds like a plan 

[keith101]

Should also use large industrial air bags inside the boat to assist in raising it , would make the job so much easier .

[worgeordie]

They better get there quickly,Big Joke only given them 5 days

to recover the vessel,the clock is ticking,and he won't want to 

lose face.

regards worgeordie

[bluesofa]

28 minutes ago, webfact said:

A new salvage team to try to recover the sunken tour boat Phoenix has yet to arrive in Phuket, Maj Ekkachai Siri of Tourist Police confirmed this morning

What's holding up those pesky foreigners?

Visa issues, or waiting for a disclaimer to be signed by the PM (again) if it all goes tits up down?

[worgeordie]

2 minutes ago, keith101 said:

Should also use large industrial air bags inside the boat to assist in raising it , would make the job so much easier .

I think they would have to attach the airbags outside the vessel,

putting them inside them inflationing them would most likely split

the vessel in two, the 45 gall drums the other salvage company used

would never have worked.

regards Worgeordie

[scorecard]

27 minutes ago, norfolkc said:

Sounds like a plan 

Agree, sounds like, as usual, total chaos and confusion, including confusion of who is actually responsible for this matter. 

 

Reminds me of when I took the helm for Thailand and Asia in a multi national, I told my secretary to get all country managers to a very urgent regional meeting in Bkk.

 

Then I asked my secretary:

- 'Did you contact all the regional mangers and tell them about the urgent

   meeting?' Not yet because the hotel is too busy. 'We can use hotel'. That

   wouldn't be nice it might upset the hotel we have always used before....

- 'OK make a booking for a meeting room at XXX hotel, please do it this

   morning'. 'Did you make the booking yet?' No because too busy this morning

   with birthday lunch tomorrow for our accounting manager. 'Did you make

   the booking yet?' Yes. 'The room you booked is suitable for how many

   people?'  They can arrange for other people to sit in the lobby and watch

   the meeting on monitor.

- Did you tell the other country managers what time the meeting starts?' No

   need they know previous meetings started at 9.00 am. 'But I told you

   I want an early start at 8.00 am.' But maybe not enough time for breakfast

   and maybe not enough time for the hotel to get the flowers.

- 'Did you assign someone to take detailed notes of the meeting discussions?'

   Yes, the new junior girl who starts work 2 days before the meeting. 'Has she

   ever worked before?'  No because she's only just 18 years old.

 

I sacked the secretary immediately after the meeting which did happen, in total chaos. 

Edited November 8, 2018 by scorecard

[webfact]

New ‘Phoenix’ salvage team starts operations

By Kritsada Mueanhawong

 

 

PHOTO: Previous attempts of the salvage operations last August

 

A new salvage team has started work to bring the ‘Phoenix’ back to the surface with a one thousand tonne crane from Singapore.

 

Boat salvage operations started again yesterday morning with a specialist crane that had arrived from Singapore. The salvage is expected to be completed in five days according to newly appointed Immigration Bureau Maj-Gen Surachate Hakparn, starting yesterday.

 

Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/new-phoenix-salvage-team-starts-operations

 

-- © Copyright The Thaiger 2018-11-08

[Oziex1]

I'm struggling to employ "the temporary suspension of disbelief" over the fact that the Tourist Police and BJ are involved in this salvage operation.

[Chang_paarp]

Did they find someone who actually knows what they are doing this time?

[AhFarangJa]

The news also follows Phuket Governor Phakaphong Tavipatana late last month handing down an order from Deputy Prime Minister Gen Chatchai Sarikulya for officials in Phuket to push for the island to lead the way in restoring tourists’ confidence in travelling to Thailand.

Under the order, preservation of life and property are to be given top priority, while the media “is to be told the truth” about tourism issues

Well, that will be a first !!!!!!

[AhFarangJa]

Spitz Tech Co Ltd was hired under a B10-million contract to recover the sunken tour boat.
I would warrant the division of that money would make interesting reading.......

Edited November 8, 2018 by AhFarangJa

[MekkOne]

5 hours ago, keith101 said:

Should also use large industrial air bags inside the boat to assist in raising it , would make the job so much easier .

the easiest way to rise a boat like that (as the hull is perfectly intact) is sealing all the doors and just pump the water out the boat, it will just rise itself... Don't need any stupid crane, just a few divers specialized in underwater welding...

[MekkOne]

47 minutes ago, Chang_paarp said:

Did they find someone who actually knows what they are doing this time?

probably some prawns farmers....

[Pedrogaz]

2 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

Spitz Tech Co Ltd was hired under a B10-million contract to recover the sunken tour boat.
I would warrant the division of that money would make interesting reading.......

That's like 300 million USD. The boat isn't worth that, but it tells you why the BJ and and tourist police are involved....who'd thunk the pay day would be that big?

[LivinginKata]

23 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

That's like 300 million USD. The boat isn't worth that, but it tells you why the BJ and and tourist police are involved....who'd thunk the pay day would be that big?

 

When did 10 million baht = 300 million USD. More like 300,000 USD

[scorecard]

5 hours ago, Oziex1 said:

I'm struggling to employ "the temporary suspension of disbelief" over the fact that the Tourist Police and BJ are involved in this salvage operation.

Well let's be pragmatic, IMHO the officers who should have this under control don't now what to do and never will, so no action...

Edited November 8, 2018 by scorecard

[HappyAndRich]

So, the team is late, and the owner is not guilty until evidence will be visible?

 

Good luck!

[Tug]

I haven’t been following this salvage op but if you put the bags inside the vessel it’s very possible it will just rip the deck off a boat is not designed to be supported this way if the crane arriving has the capacity to lift it deadweight it is definitely the way to go provided the vessel can be cradled properly.does the new team have a decompression chamber aboard there barge it’s way safer if the divers can decompress in the can so to speak please don’t kill anybody else it’s not worth it good luck keep it safe

[Oziex1]

18 hours ago, Chang_paarp said:

Did they find someone who actually knows what they are doing this time?

Yes, they have Big Joke and it will take 5 days.

[MekkOne]

15 hours ago, Tug said:

if you put the bags inside the vessel it’s very possible it will just rip the deck off a boat is not designed to be supported this way if the crane arriving has the capacity to lift it deadweight it is definitely the way to go provided the vessel can be cradled properly

You don't need a crane, you need to pump out enough water and replace it with air, it's a boat it's made for floating....

[Kopitiam]

44 minutes ago, MekkOne said:

You don't need a crane, you need to pump out enough water and replace it with air, it's a boat it's made for floating....

How can you pump out water when the boat is laying underwater?  You are planning to drain the ocean?

[MekkOne]

38 minutes ago, Kopitiam said:

How can you pump out water when the boat is laying underwater?  You are planning to drain the ocean?

holy moly how we managed to rise the Costa Concordia??? just read how it works... how you plan to pick up a boat with a crane from the bottom of the ocean? Do you have idea how much does it weight???

[MekkOne]

41 minutes ago, Kopitiam said:

How can you pump out water when the boat is laying underwater?  You are planning to drain the ocean?

BTW the hull of the boat is perfectly integer, so if you call a team of experts instead of a bunch of monkeys rise the Phoenix will be piece of cake...

[Kopitiam]

3 hours ago, MekkOne said:

holy moly how we managed to rise the Costa Concordia??? just read how it works... how you plan to pick up a boat with a crane from the bottom of the ocean? Do you have idea how much does it weight???

The Costa Concordia was not submerged underwater.  Therefore you can pump out the water.  You cannot pump water out of a boat that is laying under water!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_Concordia_disaster

[MekkOne]

2 hours ago, Kopitiam said:

The Costa Concordia was not submerged underwater.  Therefore you can pump out the water.  You cannot pump water out of a boat that is laying under water!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costa_Concordia_disaster

I'm sorry, you're wrong, you can, just need the right people that know how to do it, that's it. Nobody in this country has never attempted to salvage a boat from the bottom of the ocean and they are to proud to ask for help to somebody that knows how to do it, so all this is pointless, with a crane they'll never rise that boat because there are 45 kilograms per square centimeter pushing the boat to the bottom of the ocean. Thay will never move it if they don't remove the water from inside it.

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by MekkOne

[Kopitiam]

3 hours ago, MekkOne said:

I'm sorry, you're wrong, you can, just need the right people that know how to do it, that's it. Nobody in this country has never attempted to salvage a boat from the bottom of the ocean and they are to proud to ask for help to somebody that knows how to do it, so all this is pointless, with a crane they'll never rise that boat because there are 45 kilograms per square centimeter pushing the boat to the bottom of the ocean. Thay will never move it if they don't remove the water from inside it.

 

Please enlighten me how you can pump water out of a boat that is laying submerged underwater?

[Tug]

MekkO1 you could use your idea in very shallow water this one is way to deep the pressure differintal would crush the hull kinda like a submarine that went to deep.another way to do it is filling it with lift bags but you run into the problem of how boats are made on a vessel this size and weight it would most likely lift the deck off also using this method it is very hard to control the assent it is by far easyer to and safer to pick it up provided the crane is large enough it minimizes dive time and you can control the assent let’s hope they can bring it to a safe successful conclusion this has cost way to much blood and treasure