Line App for Address

[kane666]

From the Bangkok Post report: <link removed>

Has a few interesting things in the article such as using a broker to prove the 800k not being so bad if you are a "decent person".

 

But apparently you can report your address using the Immigration Line App?

 

If they want a more technological channel, they can contact police through the Line App, which has the handle "immigration". The software allows foreigners to give their addresses and apply for visa renewals... 

Anyone tried it?

[ubonjoe]

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[kane666]

Got it, thanks for the edit.

[Pattaya46]

You can find the same content, with even more details, on this other website :

 

Thailand’s Immigration Bureau Chief Says “X-Ray Outlaw Foreigner” Here to Stay

https://www.chiangraitimes.com/thailands-immigration-bureau-chief-says-x-ray-outlaw-foreigner-here-to-stay.html

 

 

BTW this passage makes clear that Thai Immigration Bureau head knows about "visa agents" who "help" to get 800'000B for Retirement... 

 

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A law stipulates that foreigners who want to prolong their stay in Thailand need to have at least 800,000 baht in their bank accounts.

This is exploited by brokers who resort to trickery to make officers believe that the visa renewal applicants have enough money to pay for their living expenses.

They transfer money to their clients’ bank accounts in the morning to have the balance checked by officers and quickly withdraw it in the evening once the financial “proof” has been provided, Pol Lt Gen Surachate said.

It is not such a serious matter if their clients are decent people, but some might be criminals, he said. He recommended foreigners who need help to contact his agency directly.

 

[chubby]

what would a "visa renewal" be.

 

 

btw: whats the issue with posting a link, would think they would actually want more traffic, not less  ......

[JackThompson]

 

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A law stipulates that foreigners who want to prolong their stay in Thailand need to have at least 800,000 baht in their bank accounts.

This is exploited by brokers who resort to trickery to make officers believe that the visa renewal applicants have enough money to pay for their living expenses.

 

"Trickery," eh?  Those IOs had NO IDEA the applicants got loans from the agents?  This, to spite the agent's own public-advertisements state they will do exactly that?

Let's review the difference between using an agent, vs applying in-person:

• The IOs just happen, by chance, to "overlook" checking for the 3-months seasoning required each and every time an extension is processed for an agent, at 10x+ the actual cost of the extension.  But they never forget this step - blocking applications with seasoning just 1-day short (no matter the reason) - for in-person applicants paying only 1900 Baht. 
• It's just some strange quirk of physics, that agent-submitted applications, at 10x+ the actual cost of the extension, manage to float to the top of the stack for processing, while applications of those who apply in-person, and pay only 1900 Baht, wait for our turn in the queue (crack-of-dawn / many-hours / all-day, in some offices). 
• And it's just a random-coincidence that "home visits" and "TM-30 fines" and often impossible to obtain "Landlord Docs" are unnecessary when agents submit applications, at 10x+ the actual cost of the extension, but these are strictly required when we apply in-person, and pay only 1900 Baht.

 

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It is not such a serious matter if their clients are decent people, but some might be criminals, he said. He recommended foreigners who need help to contact his agency directly.

No one gets any "help" from immigration, absent a fat brown envelope changing hands.  This system clearly opens up avenues for criminals.  If in-person applicants were always treated honesty, the vast majority would never need agents in the first place.  And, now that embassy-letters are being shut down from many countries with some of the largest expat-populations, agent-business will increase to many times current levels.

 

Curious if anyone has info on the "Line App" aspect to all this?  Apply online for extensions and reporting one's address?  Perhaps this is proposed, and the English translation missed the future-tense?

[Jacob22]

Could someone please share where to find that "Line App" to report your address?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Of more note, there's nothing in either the BKK Post or CR Times articles that even remotely addresses how Immigration is going to deal with Brits, Americans, Aussies and others who will no longer be able to obtain income affidavits from their Embassies starting next year in 2019 as a means of documenting monthly income for retirement and marriage extensions of stay.

 

Meanwhile, the part in the articles about visa agents supposedly misleading unsuspecting Immigration Officers on fake 800,000b bank deposits is pure, priceless, Thai government BS gold. I'm sure there are some cases of actual fraud. But I'd wager the vast majority of the time, all the parties involved know exactly what's going on, and the exchange of money in some fashion or another (despite "no tips" please) continues to allow the practice to exist.

 

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, Jacob22 said:

Could someone please share where to find that "Line App" to report your address?

I think somebody misread the article where is said it could be done "on line".

There is online reporting available for hotels and etc that are registered to do it. A few immigration offices will register individuals.

[fforest1]

Any one who thinks a line app is going to work for registering their address needs psychiatric help from a doctor........Thousands and thousands using one line number....yea right 

[Mavideol]

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Of more note, there's nothing in either the BKK Post or CR Times articles that even remotely addresses how Immigration is going to deal with Brits, Americans, Aussies and others who will no longer be able to obtain income affidavits from their Embassies starting next year in 2019 as a means of documenting monthly income for retirement and marriage extensions of stay.

 

Meanwhile, the part in the articles about visa agents supposedly misleading unsuspecting Immigration Officers on fake 800,000b bank deposits is pure, priceless, Thai government BS gold. I'm sure there are some cases of actual fraud. But I'd wager the vast majority of the time, all the parties involved know exactly what's going on, and the exchange of money in some fashion or another (despite "no tips" please) continues to allow the practice to exist.

 

thks man, I read the articles at 3-4 different sites and couldn't find anything relatively close to what the post claimed, even changed my glasses, cleaned them as well and went back to reading, same old same old..... pure priceless speculation

[Pib]

14 minutes ago, Jacob22 said:

Could someone please share where to find that "Line App" to report your address?

It's a poorly written article.  In one paragraph they talk about using the LINE app to contact immigration.  And then in following paragraph they are apparently talking about a different online/software system to apply for visas online and give their addresses.

[Pib]

36 minutes ago, chubby said:

btw: whats the issue with posting a link, would think they would actually want more traffic, not less  ......

 

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[offset]

28 minutes ago, Jacob22 said:

Could someone please share where to find that "Line App" to report your address?

It under "immigration" but it seems more for visitors than people that live here

[Pattaya46]

41 minutes ago, fforest1 said:

Any one who thinks a line app is going to work for registering their address needs psychiatric help from a doctor........Thousands and thousands using one line number....yea right 

They are probably talking about the 90-Days report (Notification of staying in the
Kingdom over 90 days - TM.47) also know as 90-Days Address Reporting, something you can do online for several years already.

[farangx]

55 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Meanwhile, the part in the articles about visa agents supposedly misleading unsuspecting Immigration Officers on fake 800,000b bank deposits is pure, priceless, Thai government BS gold. I'm sure there are some cases of actual fraud. But I'd wager the vast majority of the time, all the parties involved know exactly what's going on, and the exchange of money in some fashion or another (despite "no tips" please) continues to allow the practice to exist.

 

It is called pay to play ....

[Just Weird]

1 hour ago, chubby said:

what would a "visa renewal" be.

 

 

btw: whats the issue with posting a link, would think they would actually want more traffic, not less  ......

It's the association with Thaivisa posters that they don't want!

[KhunBENQ]

1 hour ago, Jacob22 said:

Could someone please share where to find that "Line App" to report your address?

Better forget it.

Obviously just garbage reporting by BP.

 

KHONKAEN.IMM is my LINE "friend" since a while

And all I get is some information like their move to new location and today a reminder about address reporting (in Thai language only).

[JackThompson]

I loved the part of the story where they found a condo building with entire floors full of (evil and scary) foreigners.  Ummmm, yes, that's why those condos were built - and also who paid for 1/2 of them - with the other 1/2 paid for by Thais to rent (make money from) mostly foreigners. 

 

What seemed to escape them, was that this find was Great News For Thailand - because most of those foreigners are spending foreign-sourced income into the country.  More is Better - don't you get it, guys?  Evidently not.  Instead, they see emptying out condo buildings as the "good news," which seems to be their policy, and working very well in many areas.

 

And then - golly, some apparently didn't know about TM-30 reporting - probably because agents submit their applications, so IOs purposefully doesn't check for it. 

 

As to any found staying illegally (I'd love to know the percentage - I bet less than 0.5%), I'm glad they were rounded-up.  Believe it or not, we (scary) foreigners want a safe Thailand, too.