Popular Post rooster59 Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 National Alcoholic Beverage Policy Committee to enforce law during New Year festival supawadee wangsri BANGKOK, 22nd December 2018 (NNT) - Deputy Prime Minister Chatchai Sarikalya has chaired this year's second meeting of the National Alcoholic Beverage Policy Committee, with the aim of reducing alcohol-related road accidents during the New Year festival. The meeting was also attended by Public Health Minister’s Assistant Thawat Suntharajarn, National Alcoholic Beverage Policy Committee Deputy Chairman Theerakiat Charoensetthasin, and Disease Control Department Director General Suwannachai Watthanayingcharoenchai. He said the meeting has instructed concerned agencies to proceed with the strict enforcement of the Alcohol Beverage Control Law to reduce the number of road accidents during New Year celebrations. Alcoholic beverages will not be sold to people under 20 years of age or to those who may already be drunk. The meeting also approved a campaign for government officials to refrain from drinking alcoholic beverages during government festivities as a good example to other people. -- nnt 2018-12-23 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mok199 Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 Yada Yada Yada 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darksidedog Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 25 minutes ago, rooster59 said: the aim of reducing alcohol-related road accidents during the New Year festival. Every intelligent person out there knows that drink driving is dangerous, and yet the numbers of people doing it here continuously is staggering. While I hope that accidents are down this year, I have no real expectations of it being so. Locals and many farang seem to think that it doesn't matter and that they will be OK. I have just seen two foreigners in Pattaya Soi 9 this morning arrested for drink driving and neither seemed to think they had done anything "really' wrong. The local attitude is the same. The punishment for the offence is paltry. Death doesn't seem to worry the locals, but really heavy fines and time in jail might. 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmitch Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, rooster59 said: The meeting also approved a campaign for government officials to refrain from drinking alcoholic beverages during government festivities as a good example to other people. So what are they going to do with all those bottles of Black Label they get as bribes presents at this time of year? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post doremifasol Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 "The meeting also approved a campaign for government officials to refrain from drinking alcoholic beverages during government festivities as a good example to other people". I'll drink to that! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, madmitch said: So what are they going to do with all those bottles of Black Label they get as bribes presents at this time of year? Only Blue is approved....Black might be fake:)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Anythingleft? Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 To suggest that they will enforce an already existing law suggests that they don't currently do it.... can they really not recognise the root cause failings of partial enforcements and reactionary measures, instead of pro active enforcement on a continual basis.... Some of these statements both stun and sadden me, I fear that we will not progress here for a very long time......Is there a legitimate reason that the police here do not appear to carry out the kind of daily activities, routine patrols or interaction with the public such as in Europe or the USA? Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Valentine Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 It must be staggering the number of committees & money spent on junkets for the members 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThreeEyedRaven Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 I wonder if it has ever dawned on these people that they could reduce the death toll all year round by properly enforcing these and other road traffic laws all the time, as opposed to halfheartedly from time to time? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckThai Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 51 minutes ago, rooster59 said: National Alcoholic Beverage Policy Committee Quick.......pinch me. My mouth and keyboard fingers want to spew offensive jabs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dmaxdan Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, darksidedog said: The punishment for the offence is paltry. Death doesn't seem to worry the locals, but really heavy fines and time in jail might. The problem is that every time new harsher penalties for any kind of driving offence are proposed, the Thais go straight into tantrum mode, take to social media to vent their displeasure and the government immediately backtracks. It is time to stop fannying about with pointless meetings and start implementing tougher punishments that will genuinely make people sit up and take notice. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiboboid Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Of course, all hope is that people are so stupid that they will not think of buying alcohol in advance. And local stores that sell alcohol at any time, day or night, suddenly change their mind about selling alcohol. Always sold, but this time they will change their mind and close before the end of the holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just more of the usual BS spouted at this time of year, but it will the same as every other year, all talk but no action. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Good idea again just a mince pie for you this year Santa without the mince or pie due to there isn't none???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 49 minutes ago, Anythingleft? said: Is there a legitimate reason that the police here do not appear to carry out the kind of daily activities, routine patrols or interaction with the public such as in Europe or the USA? I believe going around making tea money collections, spending time keeping up with their Facebook profiles and taking a nap in the local police box are contributing factors.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: Alcoholic beverages will not be sold to people under 20 years of age or to those who may already be drunk. Well that should stop the drunks from getting drunk, although they may become aggressive if they don't get what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodknock Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 dog and pony show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Quote: "strict enforcement of the Alcohol Beverage Control Law" OH REALLY!!! ThaiBev and Singha Corporation will not be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMuhammad Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Anythingleft? said: .......police here do not appear to carry out the kind of daily activities, routine patrols or interaction with the public such as in Europe or the USA? One of the reason why I chose SEA. No nanny state, save us from ourselves over policing. I understand the concern that many have but we knew the score on arrival and we still chose to reside here. Why would anyone want this country changed to the ways of the nations we left as we did leave for a reason, no? Sure the road toll is astronomical but what % of that is foreigners taking all safety precautions? I’m more than happy to keep the status quo and look after myself 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 4 hours ago, mok199 said: Yada Yada Yada Thailand seems incapable of actual change. These steps are purely reactionary. They are the same programs rolled out with fanfare year after year after year - but there is nothing new, nothing proactive. All that the authorities do is to maintain the same baseline of traffic deaths but the status quo never changes. It would take a complete redesign of how enforcement is carried out to actually change the carnage stats related traffic accidents. But the Thai government shows no interest in altering the enforcement models, such as adopting First World traffic policing methods, so at the end of the day it truly is nothing but another year of "yada, yada, yada" - just so much blathering noise and photo-ops for the higher ups. Yada, Yada, Yada 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, MadMuhammad said: One of the reason why I chose SEA. No nanny state, save us from ourselves over policing. I understand the concern that many have but we knew the score on arrival and we still chose to reside here. Why would anyone want this country changed to the ways of the nations we left as we did leave for a reason, no? Sure the road toll is astronomical but what % of that is foreigners taking all safety precautions? I’m more than happy to keep the status quo and look after myself Thailand is on the opposite side of the regulatory spectrum compared to the US, EU, and Commonwealth countries. Thailand is as under-regulated as the US, EU, and Commonwealth countries are over-regulated. However, MadMuhammad has a point. Which system would I rather live under: an under-regulated or over-regulated society? Well, here I am for the last 12 years with no future plans to repatriate to my home country. As critical as I am of Thai traffic enforcement, and as aghast as I am about the carnage - I'd rather drive on these under-regulated roads that to be subjected to the over-zealous policing that is indicative of Western countries. There is a happy medium. Too bad Thailand can't move more towards a little more effective enforcement, and too bad Western countries can't loosen up their over-enforcement. But it ain't in their nature - so we as individuals chose where we are the most comfortable. Edited December 23, 2018 by connda 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Not selling to already intoxicated people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Not without mufti police cars on the road you won't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 imo I don't believe you can reduce the impaired driving unless you make the punishments extremely painful (1st offence jail/crippling fines for example). That's the way it was brought under control in many parts of the world, and Thailand will be no different. Some of the comments here talk about 'nanny state' enforcement and I get it, no one likes to be controlled by others. But when you're 'freedom' ends up taking the life or mobility of an innocent bystander/driver because you wanted to spend your last baht on another drink instead of a taxi, this is selfishness to the extreme. Driving loaded is basically saying that there is NO ONE as important as you, and if the shit hits the fan, too bad so sad. That's a hell of a way to go through life, believing your amusement is more important than anybody around you. To me this indicates a tragic lack of maturity, these people just never grew up. Enough of the rant - i just hope all here have a SAFE and happy holiday season with their friends and family and the new year brings a resolution to the TV immigration woes concerning $ and extensions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeGee Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I know this may sound stupid, but it is only a few days before the holidays,why so late.Maybe,if back in say June/July, they sat down and said"what are we going to do about the death toll over the new year holiday".They would then be able to plan a proper course of actions that will actually help the situation.Instead of afterwards saying, well we told them to drive safely,not our fault they ignored our advice. Sorry,I forgot where I was!!! planning in advance, what a strange concept! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 all hot air again and again in this country nothing will stop people from drink driving. There are not enough coppers to enforce any driving laws here......there are only 250,000 in the whole country !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 maybe if the police got off their <deleted> and went out on the roads they would be able to pull over all the drunk drivers, set up booze buses like they do in Australia on main roads, arrest anyone over the limit and dont let them take their cars home. Toss them in jail and give huge fines, money and jail time seem to be the only things that upset thais but the fines are usually p*ss poor and they let them go home, its pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubon farang Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 18 hours ago, Anythingleft? said: To suggest that they will enforce an already existing law suggests that they don't currently do it.... can they really not recognise the root cause failings of partial enforcements and reactionary measures, instead of pro active enforcement on a continual basis.... Some of these statements both stun and sadden me, I fear that we will not progress here for a very long time...... Is there a legitimate reason that the police here do not appear to carry out the kind of daily activities, routine patrols or interaction with the public such as in Europe or the USA? Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk That meeting was a meeting about nothing. They have the laws but don't enforce it. We all know why? Oh oh, they are going to stop 20-year-olds from buying alcohol if they seem drunk What a bloody joke. But if you are 30, 40 50 60 and you are drunk you can buy alcohol. The meeting chaired by deputy PM number 4( never seen a country with so many deputy Pms) easy ways to pick 100,000 baht to attend meetings or is it only the deputy pm with the all the watches that were given to him only get that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 There is no need for these committees of self-important people spouting the bleedin' obvious; the laws are there - they just need enforcing. Having a police force would help if they worked after dark and at weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 14 hours ago, CeeGee said: I know this may sound stupid, but it is only a few days before the holidays,why so late.Maybe,if back in say June/July, they sat down and said"what are we going to do about the death toll over the new year holiday".They would then be able to plan a proper course of actions that will actually help the situation.Instead of afterwards saying, well we told them to drive safely,not our fault they ignored our advice. Sorry,I forgot where I was!!! planning in advance, what a strange concept! Actually, back in June/July they should have been discussing what they would do about the death toll at that time of the year. As is shown year after year, the safest times to drive in Thailand are, ironically, New Year's and Songkran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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