Doing the same thing year after year while expecting a different result. Clearly the current plan isn’t working. 

  The Thais seem to be happy enough with seventy human sacrifices every day to the God of motorised transport. Who are we to tell them different?

Just about sums it up

18 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said:

So when the "7 dangerous days" has passed, traffic is safe again????. get real and talk about the 365 dangerous days.

Agreed,  what good does the thousands of roadside check tents do ?? manned by high paid people to sit and do sod all in most cases.  Millions of pounds spent on this ritual big business for the tent renters, tables and chair merchants.......Mostly they are taking up the motor cycle /or near lane. causing gridlock, the same as the police  check points using money collection road gridlocks.    Please stop the ridiculous waste of public money.   No fines for no licence, no helmets,  JUST a year ban. Drink related two year ban.

3 hours ago, missoura said:

 

 

..heaps of room..a bus could fit either side.

Edited December 31, 20187 yr by tandor

 'entitled' to drive without a licence, without training,Even Licence Plates,( For a QUICK ) Getaway after causing the accident....

 

And REMEMBER Note to Thai Drivers.....You SHOULD " Give Way " to traffic from you're RIGHT On Roundabouts !!!

2 hours ago, Eligius said:

They just pluck the numbers out of thin air - as with the TAT. After all, who is going to be allowed to prove them wrong? They can equally say: 'We have arrested 15.5 million drunken drivers' - and nobody can gainsay them.

 

If anyone believes ANY Thai statistics and figures - I've got some beautiful lakeside property to sell them on Neptune!

How much is the lakeside property on Neptune? 

Yesterday i going 30 km in small way,se only 1 controll and this was without people.They pay much money to stop accident in this weekend,but not help and why?They are stupid and sitting in big road and give drunk people coffee and after little time lett them drive again????If they sitting in small way in every willage they can take much drunkdrivers every evening and same if they sitting a little bit from farangbars for much farangs are stupid and drive drunk here to????????Take cars/mc and not give back,sell them and put money to people be destroid in drunkaccidents but not have drink.

6 hours ago, webfact said:

On Saturday alone, 21,028 motorcyclists were nabbed for reckless driving,

Total BS. RTP don't patrol and don't stop people driving dangerously on the road, so how did they grab 20,000 in one day. I think it is more likely that at checkpoints around the country they stopped 20,000 bikes and fined them for reckless driving i.e. not driving in the left lane whilst approaching the checkpoint. 

 

Also the roads were full of trucks as usual despite authorities saying they would be banned for the 7 days.

 

But.........How The <deleted> would yer get yer Food from Tesco's if they were ??

What is needed to reduce road deaths generally is a change in societal values.

Much like what happened with drinking and driving in the West there was a strong vocal lobby for harsher sentences for DD and a stress on the dam that was done to innocent families. In the 60s and 70s many people drove drunk in the UK and there was sympathy for drunk drivers when they got caught. By the time the 90s and 2000s rolled around drink driving had become totally socially unacceptable and there is no sympathy for anyone caught.

Here is it socially acceptable to behave stupidly on the roads potentially causing death and injury to other innocent road-users and pedestrians. While it is socially acceptable in Thailand to drive without a licence; to drive drunk; to text or watch u-tube while driving; etc etc then the carnage on the roads will continue. 

Most accidents happen to motorcyclists. Most junior motorcyclists are poor and cannot afford driving lessons, helmets or even the fee for a licence. When they can afford them they have been driving for years already and don't consider such things to be needed, and they spend the money on booze and drive drunk.

If the police actually enforced the laws then most of the poorer people would be unable to move around at all and would be marooned in their villages with no jobs. What would they do? There would either be an insurrection or they would all move to Bangkok making it the biggest slum on earth. 

There is no easy fix here. The only way to start attacking the problem is with the young. I see in my town every day police escorting children out of school....all too young to drive they are 3 and 4 on the bike with no helmets, no licences, and probably no brakes. The police wave them on by (because they have no money to pay the inevitable bribe). How and why would these kids learn to drive properly? Until we can answer this question the problem of dreadful driving in Thailand will remain a problem. 

As a start how about schools stopping any children from parking bikes on school property unless they have licences and helmets? Then how about some educational programs in schools teaching kids to drive properly?

Nothing else is going to work in my opinion.

Calling Thais stupid or brain dead actually doesn't help....and only generates an anti-farang atmosphere. Draconian punishment for offenders will only generate sympathy for the offenders by their loved ones and at the moment, fattens the wallets of the police higher-ups with their share of the bribes.

NEVER Argue with a Thai Driver, You'll never Win or even get them to understand....

On 12/31/2018 at 11:06 AM, Nong Khai Man said:

 

Also the roads were full of trucks as usual despite authorities saying they would be banned for the 7 days.

 

But.........How The <deleted> would yer get yer Food from Tesco's if they were ??

It is called shelf life,  and refrigerators. Modern quick transportation so no need to be on the Xmas eve, new years eve,   no excuse for companies. Please stop the 12 convoy of buses, mini vans and police escorting municipal VIPs unnecessary. 

Think as shit, that’s the problem

4 hours ago, graemeaylward said:

Speeding does not cause accidents! Being unable to control a vehicle travelling at speed could lead to an accident. Thais seem unable to adjust their driving to the prevailing conditions and have little or no regard for what is going on around them! There are no excuses! Proper driving tests (on roads), police enforcement of laws, every day of the year, confiscation and crushing of all vehicles driven by those without licences or insurance, may, just may cut the carnage!

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absolutely spot on, renewed my 5 year licence, had to watch a totally useless movie, and no english sub titles, useless, no training

 

2 hours ago, chriscommander said:

How can you take over in a curve, or can you se around ?

 

Because they (most of them) lack the ability to think ahead.

On 12/31/2018 at 11:06 AM, Nong Khai Man said:

 

Also the roads were full of trucks as usual despite authorities saying they would be banned for the 7 days.

 

But.........How The <deleted> would yer get yer Food from Tesco's if they were ??

and the fuel in ur car, and ur alcohol, shampoo, etc etc, in the uk we have these dreamers too.

1 minute ago, ericnoodeeka said:

and the fuel in ur car, and ur alcohol, shampoo, etc etc, in the uk we have these dreamers too.

just remember, if you bought it, a truck brought it.

 

Edited December 31, 20187 yr by ericnoodeeka

5 hours ago, YetAnother said:

thais weren't ready for moving vehicles

Whoever showed these people how to make a wheel was the first major catastrophe.

4 hours ago, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

You can't fix stupid. 

Anybody that drives on a regular basis in Thailand could not fail to notice the decline ( if its possible ) in driving standards over the last couple of years or so.

Stupid is possible to fix, it just takes a while. However outright lunacy is a different proposition.

13 minutes ago, Vacuum said:

 

Because they (most of them) lack the ability to think ahead.

Dont you mean the ability to even think ?

7 hours ago, webfact said:

ROAD ACCIDENTS claimed 182 lives during the first three of the so-called “seven dangerous days” associated with New Year celebrations.

From observation I would say that the dangerous period is 365 days of the year,some days more dangerous than others.   ????

5 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

Dont you mean the ability to even think ?

They are thinking, in this case; 'Im going to overtake this truck', no matter what.

Edited December 31, 20187 yr by Vacuum

I thought, a few days ago, that a big whigg in the Government stated that he would make it ZERO deaths over the holiday period.....a statment that can NOT possibly be upheld.....as we can see from these figures.

Then later some guy in the Government said they were going to increase the speed limits.

Left hand does not know what right hand is doing here !!

We all know that speed KILLS !!

1 minute ago, essox essox said:

I thought, a few days ago, that a big whigg in the Government stated that he would make it ZERO deaths over the holiday period.....a statment that can NOT possibly be upheld.....as we can see from these figures.

Then later some guy in the Government said they were going to increase the speed limits.

Left hand does not know what right hand is doing here !!

We all know that speed KILLS !!

Increase the speed limit, then WHAM another 3 lanes out of action, usually just around a bend, or just after an intersection, or at a roundabout,  POLICE thinking safety.

Thailand's population control system is working better than ever this year.

They Thais copy everything. Brand design, intellectual properties of software and so on. But the real good and important things, they do not copy.

They should copy some laws of european countries. Look at Swiss and Germany. If you want to drive a car, you need to to go through a proper training to obtain a driving licence.

After that you have a probation. If you drive reckless, speeding, drive drunk or break the law. You are busted as driver.  But not in Thailand. Here jerk driver amd rich drivers walk away. 

I already recorded thousands of motor cyclist driving on the sidewalk. And that only on an a 400 meter sidewalk part. If they really want to do something serious, put speeding cameras all over the place. Charge them with real high fees and enforce the laws.

But I know, picking on foreigners is easier. Luckily, the foreigners did not start to revange on Thailand by posting all the cheating, unfair treatment and dual pricing all over the internet..... then they would have less people coming here, and the economy would go down.

5 hours ago, edwinchester said:

"......Colonel Sirichan Nga-thong said action had already been taken against 60,492 drunk drivers."

 

That is an absolutely astonishing figure in only three days and just goes to show a huge number of drivers here really don't give a shit.

This is the action they have taken against the drivers who were drunk  A cup of coffee Stern talking to (Please don't drink drive) 500 baht fine and say sorry for being drunk behind the wheel That is the actin lol

 

40 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

Dont you mean the ability to even think ?

They have thought ahead and made sure their buddhist amulet is in place so all is ok. Its just that farang dont stand how that works really.

6 hours ago, Reigntax said:

So all the talk and no action doesnt reduce the road deaths. Who would have thought.

 

But the same rhetoric will continue to occur each and every holiday period while they seek praise for talking themselves up without actually doing oads are horrible I hear nosigns 

Edited December 31, 20187 yr by Kittycat66
The truth. Thailand is just not developed like the states. They have too many people in bangkok. The roads with no signs and drivers are careless.

1 hour ago, Vacuum said:

 

Because they (most of them) lack the ability to think ahead.

That's the normal, expectable behaviour seen on the roads in Thailand every day.

He should get the correct attitude adjustment measure.

Smack that wallet very hard.  its the only way.

 

 

Edited December 31, 20187 yr by stanleycoin