webfact Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 PM May says if Brexit deal is rejected, UK will be in uncharted territory By William James FILE PHOTO: Britain's Prime Minister Theresa May leaves 10 Downing Steet in London, Britain, December 17, 2018. REUTERS/Toby Melville/File Photo LONDON (Reuters) - Prime Minister Theresa May said on Sunday that Britain would be in uncharted territory if herBrexit deal is rejected by parliament later this month, despite little sign that she has won over sceptical lawmakers. Britain is due to leave the European Union on March 29 but May's inability so far to get her deal for a managed exit through parliament has alarmed business leaders and investors who fear the country is heading for a damaging no-deal Brexit. May said the vote in parliament would be around Jan. 15, as expected, contrary to reports she could delay it. May has already delayed the vote once, in December, when it became clear she would lose unless extra reassurances from the EU were agreed. Describing what would happen if she was defeated, May told the BBC: "We're going to be in uncharted territory. I don't think anybody can say exactly what will happen in terms of the reaction we'll see in parliament." Amid the uncertainty over Britain's next steps - which range from leaving without a deal to not leaving at all - a poll showed more Britons want to remain a member of the EU than leave, and voters want to make the final decision themselves. May's party itself is divided over her deal, with many fearing that an insurance policy designed to avoid the re-emergence of a hard border between Ireland and Northern Ireland could leave Britain subject to EU rules indefinitely. One of those leading that opposition, lawmaker Jacob Rees-Mogg, said in a newspaper article that it was "wishful thinking" that time away from parliament over the Christmas holiday could persuade him to change his mind and back the deal. The Northern Irish party that props up May's minority government called on her to stand firm in demanding that the EU changes its "poison" backstop provision on Ireland's post-Brexit border. WORK TO DO With the parliamentary debate on her deal due to begin on Jan. 9, May said there was still work to do to get reassurances over the backstop from the EU. She also promised parliament would have a greater say in the rest of the Brexit process and warned that rejecting her deal could prevent Britain's exit. "Don't let the search for the perfect become the enemy of the good, because the danger there is actually we end up with no Brexit at all," May said. She did not answer whether she would, if defeated, make a second attempt to get the deal passed by parliament. May also did not directly respond, when asked, if she was leading the country toward a no-deal Brexit. On Tuesday, her government could face a bid to block an unmanaged exit when a group of lawmakers try to amend budget legislation to deny funding for some no-deal preparations unless they are approved by parliament. It is unclear yet whether the amendment has enough support to pass. May repeated her objections to holding a fresh public vote on the deal. She said a second referendum would be divisive, and also highlighted the lack of time available to hold a new referendum. "Practically, actually you couldn't get a referendum in time before the 29th of March - you'd be talking about extending Article 50," she said, referring to the two-year exit notice Britain sent to the EU in March 2017. (Reporting by William James; Editing by Toby Chopra and Jan Harvey) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-01-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Uncharted Mrs May, largely because over the last two years you and your shambolic, deceitful and cheating administration have deliberately failed to procure, plan or produce any charts. You clearly stated that "Brexit means Brexit", then you spent the last two years concocting a "deal" which effectively keeps the UK in the EU, (albeit with less, no, no influence on the policies it is required to persue and actions it is required to take) and now you claim that it is the only choice because the alternative is uncharted! At least Tony Blair could lie convincingly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Moron, her deal is an abomination. The sooner it gets booted for good, the better. A no deal is a far more helpful scenario than it would be under the terms of her dreadfully constructed deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 It’s not as if Remain did not warn of this mess. You’ll find it filed under ‘Project Fear’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flossie35 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 What's dangerous about "no brexit at all"? Seems to be what most people want now. Best solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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evadgib Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: It’s not as if Remain did not warn of this mess. You’ll find it filed under ‘Project Fear’. Since you mentioned it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 How dare this woman say 'not leave at all'. How dare she think she can override the democratic decision of the people. If the 600 odd - motly remonares -in parlaiment delibeately scupper Brexit, then that uncharted territory wil be uncharted riots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 "This woman" has come up with the best deal she can muster given the impossible red lines Brexiteers demanded. It is rubbish but that is all she has to offer. So any talk of a second peoples vote or no Brexit or a no deal Brexit will be caused by the MPs who vote against May. You can't blame Theresa if she loses and that is all she has left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 11 hours ago, JAG said: Uncharted Mrs May, largely because over the last two years you and your shambolic, deceitful and cheating administration have deliberately failed to procure, plan or produce any charts. You clearly stated that "Brexit means Brexit", then you spent the last two years concocting a "deal" which effectively keeps the UK in the EU, (albeit with less, no, no influence on the policies it is required to persue and actions it is required to take) and now you claim that it is the only choice because the alternative is uncharted! At least Tony Blair could lie convincingly! To be fair, she didn't want the job. She just lacked the skills needed to negotiate her way out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Over 200 MPs signatures now (and rising) calling for "no-deal" to be taken off of the table. About a 50/50 split between leavers and remainers, or so they are saying. Anyway if that goes ahead then just what will the leave side be calling for then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dunroaming Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, evadgib said: And another spin from Johnson who said right from the start that the EU would want to do a deal with the UK. Total imbecile who has lost all credibility. No wonder he keeps his head down these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 13 hours ago, JAG said: Uncharted Mrs May, largely because over the last two years you and your shambolic, deceitful and cheating administration have deliberately failed to procure, plan or produce any charts. You clearly stated that "Brexit means Brexit", then you spent the last two years concocting a "deal" which effectively keeps the UK in the EU, (albeit with less, no, no influence on the policies it is required to persue and actions it is required to take) and now you claim that it is the only choice because the alternative is uncharted! At least Tony Blair could lie convincingly! Agree with your astute comments! The "advisory referendum" asked people if they wanted to leave or remain in the EU. It did not have a third choice of leaving but sort of staying, contributing billions for a crap deal which makes the UK subservient to EU will but without any say in policy making, veto or rebate. You are spot on about her administration - shambolic, deceitful and cheating and I'd had self interested hypocritical cowards. She's advocating a deal the has few support among leavers and remainers; other politicians, most of her own party and tries to present it as the only way forward. The Tories, the Unionist party are then ones responsible for the disunity and divisiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welovesundaysatspace Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, dunroaming said: Over 200 MPs signatures now (and rising) calling for "no-deal" to be taken off of the table. About a 50/50 split between leavers and remainers, or so they are saying. Anyway if that goes ahead then just what will the leave side be calling for then? The only sensible thing to do, and obviously in the best interest of millions of voters who didn’t vote for crashing out but for castles in the sky and pink unicorns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, evadgib said: Boris putting is own spin on the situation and trying to pretend people want what he wants. Complete prat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 10 hours ago, flossie35 said: What's dangerous about "no brexit at all"? Seems to be what most people want now. Best solution. Not according to the polls. Most people seem to want a new referendum now they know the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 7 hours ago, evadgib said: Since you mentioned it... Yes don't worry. Everything will be fine! They'll all be shipped in by the inexperienced company started last year that has no ships, no trucks, no experience but has been awarded a 14m GBP by a government minister. Even the local Tory councilor is questioning how they could even perform a due diligence and then award a contract based on this. But seems par for the course for May's sham of a government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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evadgib Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Baerboxer said: Yes don't worry. Everything will be fine! They'll all be shipped in by the inexperienced company started last year that has no ships, no trucks, no experience but has been awarded a 14m GBP by a government minister. Even the local Tory councilor is questioning how they could even perform a due diligence and then award a contract based on this. But seems par for the course for May's sham of a government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungbing Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 So over 150 other countries in the world are in uncharted territory are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 When the referendum was held the future was 'uncharted territory'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 On 1/7/2019 at 10:37 PM, wabothai said: When the referendum was held the future was 'uncharted territory'. And it still is, which brings us back to the main point that OF COURSE if there is no deal brexit, the UK will be in "uncharted territory". May thinks this is suprising news?? It could turn out to be good or bad for the UK, only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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