webfact Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Election Rally Fears Counterprotest To Instigate Violence By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter Pro-democracy protesters raise the anti-junta three finger salute on May 22, 2018. BANGKOK — An organizer of tomorrow’s pro-democracy rally said Friday he fears clashes could break out after a counterprotest was announced for the same site. The Democracy Monument protest to demand timely elections will be met by another gathering by a heretofore unknown group calling itself “Unity Before Election.” One of the leading pro-election activists has withdrawn from the rally, citing fears of violence, but campaigner Sirawith Seritiwat said the event would go ahead. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2019/01/18/election-rally-fears-counterprotest-to-instigate-violence/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2019-01-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, webfact said: “Unity Before Election.” If the junta haven't achieved unity in 4.5+ years, they aren't going to achieve it in the next 4 months. Elections already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, webfact said: The Democracy Monument protest to demand timely elections will be met by another gathering by a heretofore unknown group calling itself “Unity Before Election.” “Unity Before Election.” With a name like that we can be as good as sure that Prayuth has had his army boys out, recruiting, by their preferred 'enveloping' method, these victims of circumstance who, should they be recognised by their pro-Democracy compatriots - will be 'marked' for life . . . A Prayuth ploy, through and through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunProletariat Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 A revolution is needed to thoroughly excavate all the rotten eggs from the box. A clean sweep is required, by any and all means necessary. KP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, webfact said: unknown group calling itself “Unity Before Election.” Any chance of this "unknown" group having an allegiance to or being funded by the elitist and filthy rich Palang Pracharath Party who would be desperate to see the junta's reign continue? Seems like the conditions are right and the timing is right for the perfect scenario to allow the junta to have a ready made excuse for a long term deferral of an election. I am sure Blind Freddy could see this coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Cadbury said: Any chance of this "unknown" group having an allegiance to or being funded by the elitist and filthy rich Palang Pracharath Party who would be desperate to see the junta's reign continue? Seems like the conditions are right and the timing is right for the perfect scenario to allow the junta to have a ready made excuse for a long term deferral of an election. I am sure Blind Freddy could see this coming. More likely this (from the linked article) is their origin: “From what I’ve heard, they are set up by the Internal Security Operation Command,” the activist said. “They are trying to draft people from the ranks to harass us.” ISOC are by no means new to such activity. If so there definitely will be "harassment", as the police will do absolutely nothing to prevent/stop it. I will be looking for a live newsfeed at 3pm on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Just divert some of the free Mango/Sticky Rice for the Chinese to the Democracy Monument, and guess what, the only noise you will hear is chomping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Well, it is an easy guess from where and who is taking this counter measure. Dirty pool is life from the self imposed cesspool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I think the army chief likes the smell coming from the oven... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 2:36 AM, rkidlad said: If the junta haven't achieved unity in 4.5+ years, they aren't going to achieve it in the next 4 months. Elections already. Unity is not the goal. Unrest is the goal so the junta can claim the right to cancel elections for another 4.5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 All the while the junta continue 'governing' and passing laws as though nothing is going on. They can't even be bothered to pretend they are on the hustings and in caretaker mode. Perhaps nothing is going on? These guys aren't going anywhere. Now they are in 'legal' and 'technical' 'difficulties' to carry on and on. Add to that an army chief who seems keen to wash his hands in blood and back to square one we go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramr Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 3:05 PM, KhunProletariat said: A revolution is needed to thoroughly excavate all the rotten eggs from the box. A clean sweep is required, by any and all means necessary. KP. Sure, worked out great for Cambodia with the Khmer Rouge. Sorry, as much as I want to agree completely with you...a clean sweep alone is not enough if it leaves a power vacuum, mob rule susceptible to lowest common denominator populism, and absolutely no people with practical experience in the day-to-day of running a country top to bottom. Not enough to destroy without having specific, realistic plans to build it back up again. That said, I understand 100% how you feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, ramr said: Sure, worked out great for Cambodia with the Khmer Rouge. Sorry, as much as I want to agree completely with you...a clean sweep alone is not enough if it leaves a power vacuum, mob rule susceptible to lowest common denominator populism, and absolutely no people with practical experience in the day-to-day of running a country top to bottom. Not enough to destroy without having specific, realistic plans to build it back up again. That said, I understand 100% how you feel. So go back to the messy democracy it was. The Civil Service remain in place. The other state institutions remain in place. There are no overnight solutions, but scumbag politicians beat a scumbag word we are not allowed to use on Thaivisa. At least they can be booted out. This is better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Anti election protesters, only in Thailand would you find such an illogical faction of people. A peaceful protest should be embraced in modern times, but the army is far from modern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 3:31 PM, Cadbury said: Any chance of this "unknown" group having an allegiance to or being funded by the elitist and filthy rich Palang Pracharath Party who would be desperate to see the junta's reign continue? Seems like the conditions are right and the timing is right for the perfect scenario to allow the junta to have a ready made excuse for a long term deferral of an election. I am sure Blind Freddy could see this coming. The protest consisted of Pansuwarn Na Kaeow, a former spokesman for Suthep's PDRC (Shut down Bangkok), as well as other former members of PDRC. They were joined by Jaturan Boonbenjarat, a member of Suthep's present ACT party ( Action Coalition for Thailand) party. Not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramr Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 11 hours ago, baboon said: So go back to the messy democracy it was. The Civil Service remain in place. The other state institutions remain in place. There are no overnight solutions, but scumbag politicians beat a scumbag word we are not allowed to use on Thaivisa. At least they can be booted out. This is better than nothing. It's a difficult debate to have without agreeing on a more specific definition of what "clean sweep" means and by which methods it's achieved, so thank you for offering that somewhat more detailed scenario for discussion. Scumbag politicians seem to be a manifestation/expression of greater widespread cultural attitudes in Thailand... cut as many heads off the hydra as you want, it's still fiendishly difficult to kill. That said, I agree it would at least be nice to see some incremental changes for the better. Also, seems to me anyone wielding political power IS de facto a politician, regardless of whether they are military or politician or whatever in name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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