1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

 Flame ignored.

 

 Can you remind us all exactly how these charges against 35 people show that Trump colluded with Russian players to explicitly cause the rightful winner(Hillary) to lose the 2016 election? I don't care about lies, financial irregularities, buying alcohol without valid ID or jaywalking. That is what this witch hunt is about - I hate to have to remind you.

Okay, you don't seem to care about things most of us do care about........so pray enlighten us, what do you care about besides yourself?

Most Trump supporters are finding this to be quite a rough ride. They knew going in, that he was filthy. They knew of the 3,600 lawsuits, that were being pursued by small contractors, just normal hard working Americans, trying to make a living, who had the misfortune of doing work for a gangster developer. They knew all that. They knew about the Orgy Island stuff, the connections to the convicted child molester Jeffrey Epstein, his 22 trips to Orgy Island, his many visits to Epsteins mansion, where the parties often took place. They knew about the "Grab them by the pu***" statements. They knew about the statements like "when I see a beautiful women, I just have to stick my tongue in her mouth" statements. Yet, they voted him in anyway, at least partly due to the fact that he was running against the worst democratic candidate since Mondale, and a women who was also a gangster. So, many felt they did not have a choice. 

 

However, I am sure that many did not know the extent of the level of corruption this man engages in, how low he was willing to stoop, and how deceitful he was. Some of my friends who supported him, have backed away. Some have just come to the conclusion he is an absolute pig, but they continue to believe in his policies. No doubt his support is dropping. The shutdown has been a fiasco for Trump. He was way, way in over his head with Pelosi. She is so much smarter and cunning than Trump, and she can negotiate, unlike Trump, who cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag. So, in the end he caved. He had to. His poll numbers are plummeting. His hammer over the head approach does not work with everyone! 

 

Stone is just another in the continuing string of criminals that Mueller will arrest. By the end of all this, his son, and daughter could be looking at time in the slammer. And in my estimation, Trump will be given a choice of either resigning, or choosing not to run again, in exchange for not being prosecuted, once he leaves office. One thing is certain. Trump colluded. It is just his M.O. His entire career he has sought any nasty advantage over his perceived adversaries. There is a reason why he so vociferously protected those notes from the translator, during the meetings with Putin. No American would have wanted to hear what was said. Especially supporters of the traitor. That is just the way he rolls. He is as dirty as a Bombay street cleaner. At this stage he is scared. Very scared. They are closing in on him, after a lifetime of crime.

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9 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Mueller is a republican. 

For Trump supporters, a normal traditional Republican is the enemy. So, Mueller is part of this vast deep State conspiracy where I guess hundreds of thousands of federal bureaucrats (both democrats and traditional GOPs) keep a secret facebook page together or something and plot Trump's downfall.

 

For Trump supporters, the only non-political, non-witch hunt appointee would be chosen from one of Trump's ardent followers at one of his pep rallies.

9 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

12 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I suspect this silly 2 year "probe" will show no concrete proof that Trump colluded with Russian players to cause Hillary to lose her election. What happens after that? Well, in light of the fact this witch hunt has not allowed Trump to effectively be President I think i would be fair to start Trump's first 4 year term again. These unhinged dems must learn to respect democratic principles such as the electoral process. The only real collusion I am aware of is Donna Brazille leaking thetelevised debate questions to Clinton - erm.. didn't notice a with hunt over that? 

 

 If anyone still thinks there is a smoking gun after Muellers hasty smackdown of the Buzzfeed fake news media, you are nuts.

Mueller is a republican. 

what a silly statement;

 

lots on non jews are zionist

 

deep state is non partisan

 

 

3 hours ago, atyclb said:

what a silly statement;

 

lots on non jews are zionist

 

deep state is non partisan

 

 

Deep state, any proof there?

12 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

15 hours ago, atyclb said:

what a silly statement;

 

lots on non jews are zionist

 

deep state is non partisan

 

 

Deep state, any proof there?

 

"Deep state, any proof there?"

 

nah, its just an expression with no basis in reality

 

1 minute ago, atyclb said:

 

"Deep state, any proof there?"

 

nah, its just an expression with no basis in reality

 

Thought so

On 1/29/2019 at 6:24 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

I suspect this silly 2 year "probe" will show no concrete proof that Trump colluded with Russian players to cause Hillary to lose her election. What happens after that? Well, in light of the fact this witch hunt has not allowed Trump to effectively be President I think i would be fair to start Trump's first 4 year term again. These unhinged dems must learn to respect democratic principles such as the electoral process. The only real collusion I am aware of is Donna Brazille leaking thetelevised debate questions to Clinton - erm.. didn't notice a with hunt over that? 

 

 If anyone still thinks there is a smoking gun after Muellers hasty smackdown of the Buzzfeed fake news media, you are nuts.

 

Anyone who still thinks there was no collusion after the arrest of Roger Stone for lying about having colluded must be a simplton.

2 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

nah, its just an expression with no basis in reality

Kinda like the Trump Presidency!

On 1/29/2019 at 12:23 PM, TopDeadSenter said:

 Flame ignored.

 

 Can you remind us all exactly how these charges against 35 people show that Trump colluded with Russian players to explicitly cause the rightful winner(Hillary) to lose the 2016 election? I don't care about lies, financial irregularities, buying alcohol without valid ID or jaywalking. That is what this witch hunt is about - I hate to have to remind you.

 

Sure, what is there to suggest that Trump colluded, just his campaign team, his aids and his lawyers, but Trump must be innocent because he said it was a witch hunt, got it.

53 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

Sure, what is there to suggest that Trump colluded, just his campaign team, his aids and his lawyers, but Trump must be innocent because he said it was a witch hunt, got it.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The probe of possible Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election, led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, is wrapping up, Acting U.S. Attorney General Matthew Whitaker told reporters on Monday.

 

There has been no interference,collusion, meddling or election machine tampering  by an American in this Russian Interference investigation into the 2016 USA election!

Only American process crimes

 

"However, Mueller hasn’t yet alleged any crimes directly connecting the two — that is, alleging that Trump advisers conspired with Russian officials to impact the election. He is continuing to investigate that".

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

Edited January 30, 20197 yr by riclag

56 minutes ago, riclag said:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The probe of possible Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election, led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, is wrapping up, Acting U.S. Attorney General Matthew Whitaker told reporters on Monday.

 

There has been no interference,collusion, meddling or election machine tampering  by an American in this Russian Interference investigation into the 2016 USA election!

Only American process crimes

 

"However, Mueller hasn’t yet alleged any crimes directly connecting the two — that is, alleging that Trump advisers conspired with Russian officials to impact the election. He is continuing to investigate that".

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

 

Trump very publically requested Russia hack Clintons emails, which they did and then they posted them on Wikileaks. Trumps closest aid is alledged to have repeatedly called wikileaks for updates on the emails releases on request of a number of members of Trumps campaign team.

Please tell me, in what way is Trumps team colluding with the Russians to release dirt on Clinton not "collusion"?

6 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

6 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

"Deep state, any proof there?"

 

nah, its just an expression with no basis in reality

 

Thought so

 

 

google . "no brainer baiting"

On 1/29/2019 at 6:24 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

I suspect this silly 2 year "probe" will show no concrete proof that Trump colluded with Russian players to cause Hillary to lose her election. What happens after that? Well, in light of the fact this witch hunt has not allowed Trump to effectively be President I think i would be fair to start Trump's first 4 year term again. These unhinged dems must learn to respect democratic principles such as the electoral process. The only real collusion I am aware of is Donna Brazille leaking thetelevised debate questions to Clinton - erm.. didn't notice a with hunt over that? 

 

 If anyone still thinks there is a smoking gun after Muellers hasty smackdown of the Buzzfeed fake news media, you are nuts.

You want to reset Trump back to ground zero? And you're talking about unhinged dems?

5 hours ago, riclag said:

There has been no interference,collusion, meddling or election machine tampering  by an American in this Russian Interference investigation into the 2016 USA election!

Only American process crimes

 

"However, Mueller hasn’t yet alleged any crimes directly connecting the two — that is, alleging that Trump advisers conspired with Russian officials to impact the election. He is continuing to investigate that".

The hammer is coming soon!

 

2 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

 

google . "no brainer baiting"

Google "don't have any proof, so make a BS statement"

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

4 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

 

google . "no brainer baiting"

Google "don't have any proof, so make a BS statement"

 

when usa senators including eye surgeon rand paul talk about "the deep state" it is a slight suggestion that it exists.

 

you have a brain also and can research stuff!

 

On March 20, 2018, Sen. Rand Paul said "Absolutely there is a deep state because the deep state is that the intelligence communities do not have oversight." He continued, "There is no skeptic" [emphasis in original] among the four Republican and four Democratic Senators "who are supposedly" providing oversight, so that the intelligence communities, “with their enormous power … have become a deep state."^[21] On December 4, 2018, Paul, in commenting on the CIA Director briefing only those eight Senators rather than the entire Senate, added "The deep state wants to keep everyone in the dark. This is just ridiculous!"^[22] On December 10, 2018, he said "The very definition of a 'deep state’ is when the very people, congressional leaders — people who are elected by the people — are not allowed to hear the intelligence."^[23]

Edited January 30, 20197 yr by atyclb

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12 hours ago, goferman said:

The hammer is coming soon!

 

LOL!  You're using Rachel Maddow as your source for information???!!   LOL!!

"The hammer is coming soon"  LOL!! 

Where have we heard that type of thing before "the beginning of the end for Donald Trump"  People have been saying that since 2015.  Clue:  He's still president.

3 hours ago, Kelsall said:

LOL!  You're using Rachel Maddow as your source for information???!!   LOL!!

The reasonable approach to disseminating information is to rationalize for what it says, not for who says it, necessarily ... unless it's from known extremist propaganda sources such as FOX News (Trump TV), RT (Putin TV), Brietbart, Info Wars, Rush Limbaugh, The National Inquirer or Donald J. Trump himself.

3 hours ago, Kelsall said:

LOL!  You're using Rachel Maddow as your source for information???!!   LOL!!

"The hammer is coming soon"  LOL!! 

Where have we heard that type of thing before "the beginning of the end for Donald Trump"  People have been saying that since 2015.  Clue:  He's still president.

 

Rachel Maddow is refering to the sworn the testimony of Trump Jr., she is not claiming to be a source of info.  LOL

 

Clue:  She linked to her source in her tweet.  LOL