Is a phrase I hear regularly from many young Thais (mostly between the ages of 20 & 40).

 

My questions is, what are these people so proud about? It seems to me to be a kind of forced statement when they say it, particularly after a few drinks, and none of them seem to be able to back it up with any substantial evidence..

 

Is this something that is drummed into the Thai psyche from birth? That they must be proud of their country, even though they haven't really achieved an awful lot?

 

I can count on one hand the number of Thai inventions, scientific or otherwise, that have benefited humanity as a whole. In fact, one hand seems to be too much, they have invented nothing, everything here is just copied from somebody else. Are they just plain lazy or is it a lack of education? Are they proud of being ruled by the military? Is it the wealth gap between the rich and poor? The pollution in the cities? I'm struggling to find what it is these young Thais are so proud of with regards to their country.

 

Maybe someone here can help.

Edited February 18, 20197 yr by Chicago Bull

 

just sounds like an excuse for thai bashing from a 'new' member.

 

suggest this topic is closed.

Pattaya, Patpong, Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, the hallmarks of Thai culture.

7 minutes ago, samsensam said:

just sounds like an excuse for thai bashing from a 'new' member. 

It could probably be deranged/deflected to bashing another country

yes they invented red bull

18 minutes ago, samsensam said:

 

just sounds like an excuse for thai bashing from a 'new' member.

 

suggest this topic is closed.

I'm sorry if you think I am bashing Thailand but I am not.

 

This is a point that arose when I attended a dinner over the weekend with a team of young Thai girls, when one of them all of a sudden stood up and exclaimed that she loved her country so much, before raising her glass to cheers with the entire table..

 

It just got me thinking, what does she love?

 

This isn't an isolated incident, it has happened many times before in a similar setting.

Edited February 18, 20197 yr by Chicago Bull

25 minutes ago, Chicago Bull said:

I'm struggling to find what it is these young Thais are so proud of with regards to their country.

They will usually answer such questions with aggression, best not to test primitive people too much.

5 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

yes they invented red bull

I am sure they would claim the "Bum gun" also

Hang on a minute wasn't Red bull invented by an Austrian bloke , so maybe only the Bum gun!

5 minutes ago, poohy said:

I am sure they would claim the "Bum gun" also

Hang on a minute wasn't Red bull invented by an Austrian bloke , so maybe only the Bum gun!

no the so called bum gun was in vented in France and later in Italy in the 16 or 17 hundreds 

and red bull actually was invented in Thailand with the backing of a Swiss guy

12 minutes ago, Chicago Bull said:

I'm sorry if you think I am bashing Thailand but I am not.

 

This is a point that arose when I attended a dinner over the weekend with a team of young Thai girls, when one of them all of a sudden stood up and exclaimed that she loved her country so much, before raising her glass to cheers with the entire table..

 

It just got me thinking, what does she love?

 

This isn't an isolated incident, it has happened many times before in a similar setting.

I you had any sense yourself you would have asked her.

When this girl said what she said, I immediately (internally) tried to find some redeeming qualities about Thailand so I could agree with her - but I found myself struggling.

 

At the moment there seems to be nothing here that resembles the word pride. Everything points to the contrary. I hope that in the future I myself can become proud of Thailand too, but I wont hold my breath.

They have an ancient heritage with rich traditions/celebrations over 1,000 years old....

They've never been conquered (with an asterisk).....

They're buoyed by the Buddhist religion.....

They're an independent people that have a fierce pride in their own.....

They are a largely optimistic & opportunistic society....

They appreciate the smaller things life brings without over thinking the negatives....They are not materialists - avoiding that trap.....As a society they value their heritage but don't take things over seriously.....

We can't apply our western mores & logic to them - and that's a good thing.....

The OP seems to be from the US which is a largely culture-less society due to many factors, of which one is it's relative youth country wise.....

 

I, for one, appreciate Thailand and it's people & culture....

1 minute ago, Chicago Bull said:

I immediately (internally) tried to find some redeeming qualities about Thailand so I could agree with her

They provide prostitutes for the entire world.

I certainly appreciate that.

1 minute ago, pgrahmm said:

 

They've never been conquered (with an asterisk).....

 

Wasn't this due to the fact that Britain & France decided that Thailand should be left neutral to allow free trade between Europe & Indochina?

 

Not really something to be proud about when your fate was decided by two other nations.

7 minutes ago, pgrahmm said:

They have an ancient heritage with rich traditions/celebrations over 1,000 years old....

Most of their traditions were created in the early 1900's by the dictator Field Marshal Plaek Phibunsongkhram.

Edited February 18, 20197 yr by BritManToo

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

Most of their traditions were invented in 1900's by the dictator Field Marshal Plaek Phibunsongkhram.

This is true. Well pointed out.

4 minutes ago, pgrahmm said:

They have an ancient heritage with rich traditions/celebrations over 1,000 years old....

They've never been conquered (with an asterisk).....

They're buoyed by the Buddhist religion.....

They're an independent people that have a fierce pride in their own.....

They are a largely optimistic & opportunistic society....

They appreciate the smaller things life brings without over thinking the negatives....They are not materialists - avoiding that trap.....As a society they value their heritage but don't take things over seriously.....

We can't apply our western mores & logic to them - and that's a good thing.....

The OP seems to be from the US which is a largely culture-less society due to many factors, of which one is it's relative youth country wise.....

 

I, for one, appreciate Thailand and it's people & culture....

Blooming heck all of the above , although these are mostly intangibles but we can add RedBull (with the backing of a swiss guy)

 

They are a largely optimistic & opportunistic society.... this applies to certain areas of Dudley, best not leave your car parked there

 

11 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

no the so called bum gun was in vented in France and later in Italy in the 16 or 17 hundreds 

and red bull actually was invented in Thailand with the backing of a Swiss guy

 

Austrian.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Chicago Bull said:

Wasn't this due to the fact that Britain & France decided that Thailand should be left neutral to allow free trade between Europe & Indochina?

 

Not really something to be proud about when your fate was decided by two other nations.

Might as toss in a few other counties & alliances (with Thailand) in there which, in effect, created a standoff allowing the country to remain free....

25 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

yes they invented red bull

 

I think you will find that it was the Japanese. Rebadged as Kraeting Daeng then translated buy the Austrian to Red Bull.

6 minutes ago, Chicago Bull said:

Wasn't this due to the fact that Britain & France decided that Thailand should be left neutral to allow free trade between Europe & Indochina?

 

Not really something to be proud about when your fate was decided by two other nations.

asterisks indeed!* 

The Burmese and Lao had few results back in the days!

am trying to help.... always thought they invented the katoeys / ladyboys and suckers,  but could be wrong

28 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

yes they invented red bull

and carabao & pad thai (or something like that)...but we are helping marketing here555

1 minute ago, VocalNeal said:

 

I think you will find that it was the Japanese. Rebadged as Kraeting Daeng then translated buy the Austrian to Red Bull.

AARGH No! conflicting information

• Bum Gun NO Null points
• the big one  is   So did they invent Red Bull?????

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Most of their traditions were created in the early 1900's by the dictator Field Marshal Plaek Phibunsongkhram.

 

Anybody who wants to know #howcomeitsthewayitis needs to read his entry in Wikipedia as a starting point.

 

 

31 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

yes they invented red bull

they invented a way to destroy their tourism industry

14 minutes ago, Chicago Bull said:

Wasn't this due to the fact that Britain & France decided that Thailand should be left neutral to allow free trade between Europe & Indochina?

 

Not really something to be proud about when your fate was decided by two other nations.

They are proud of the negotiating skills of their former king, who was instrumental in this decision.

From birth to the grave Thais are thought that their country is the best and places like Burma, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam are beneath them. They cannot understand nor will they ever accept the fact that in this Asean Community they are now a part off Thailand comes off fourth best. With their inability to understand that Thailand is a third world country is it any wonder why they treat Expats the way they do?? We are white skin devils.

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1 minute ago, lipflipper said:

From birth to the grave Thais are thought that their country is the best and places like Burma, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam are beneath them. They cannot understand nor will they ever accept the fact that in this Asean Community they are now a part off Thailand comes off fourth best. With their inability to understand that Thailand is a third world country is it any wonder why they treat Expats the way they do?? We are white skin devils.

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Thailand is a developing country. I have been treated very well, as an expat over the last 3 decades.