Bernie Sanders seeks U.S. presidency again in 2020

[Jingthing]

Just now, mikebike said:

Says the Klobachar fan... you were anti-Bernie and pro status-quo in 2016 and you were wrong, and you will be wrong again in 2020.

I am for the candidate that has the best chance beat "trump" in a landslide. Nominate Sanders or Warren and they will probably lose. Harris can probably win though as well as Biden and some others.

[mikebike]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

She might be but in my opinion we don't really need a "trump" of the left. Let's go for being adults. 

AOC = 45 of the left, eh?

 

I used to think you were an informed poster but that statement is so devoid of reality as to be beyond laughable.

 

[mikebike]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I am for the candidate that has the best chance beat "trump" in a landslide. Nominate Sanders or Warren and they will probably lose. Harris can probably win though as well as Biden and some others.

According to most recent polling Bernie has the best chance of beating 45.

 

Strange that you love fact-based posting - except when it comes to Bernie... same as 2016.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, mikebike said:

AOC = 45 of the left, eh?

 

I used to think you were an informed poster but that statement is so devoid of reality as to be beyond laughable.

 

Your opinion but I think you're not paying attention.

Not saying she is as bad as "trump" but on the left as that isn't humanly possible. 

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, mikebike said:

According to most recent polling Bernie has the best chance of beating 45.

 

Strange that you love fact-based posting - except when it comes to Bernie... same as 2016.

Selective reading. Objective analysis shows the fact that Klobuchar creamed her senate republican opponent in the recent election in heavily pro - "trump" districts indicates she has the best chance to win the presidency in a landslide.

Why does Bernie look good in the polls now?

Name recognition.

Amy Klobuchar is just beginning to get that but at this early stage (as proven by Obama) poor name recognition is not a problem. 

 

To add, democrats need to be ready to support ANY democrat that is nominated so that we can beat 45. Let's not make the same mistake as last time being trolled by the Russians to stay home because the actual nominee is not perfect for us.

[lannarebirth]

7 minutes ago, mikebike said:

According to most recent polling Bernie has the best chance of beating 45.

 

Same as last time, but the fix was in. It's the media branches of multi national corporations that run interference for the other corporatists. Sincere sounding questions designed to drive the herd in the direction they want it to go.

[lannarebirth]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Selective reading. Objective analysis shows the fact that Klobucher creamed her senate republican opponent in the recent election in heavily pro - "trump" districts indicates she has the best chance to win the presidency in a landslide.

Why does Bernie look good in the polls now?

Name recognition.

Amy Klobuchar is just beginning to get that but at this early stage (as proven by Obama) poor name recognition is not a problem. 

 

She's got her talking points down, that's for sure. Anything that might be worth doing is merely "aspirational". That's some pretty weak tea.

[Kieran00001]

6 hours ago, ehs818 said:

I like Bernie Sanders, most of his ideas, and his lofty goals. HOWEVER, he's not a Democrat, he's an Independent. He should not be allowed to dilute the process among lifelong Democrats. As for the Republicans that have recently 'renounced' their allegiance to that party and declared to be Democrats, I say this: Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing. Their positions and goals have not changed. They still are at odds with Dem policies and positions. They are craven and will say or do anything to retain power. Vote a straight Blue ticket.

 

Such a strange concept to me to have long term fixed policies and positions assumed on a party, isn't that how you got into this two party mess in the first place?

[lannarebirth]

1 minute ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

Such a strange concept to me to have long term fixed policies and positions assumed on a party, isn't that how you got into this two party mess in the first place?

 

No, we got in the two party mess when Democrats became Republicans which gave Republicans license to go over the cliff.

[Kieran00001]

8 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

No, we got in the two party mess when Democrats became Republicans which gave Republicans license to go over the cliff.

 

You couldn't speak of politicians as if they were breaking ranks unless you were already in the two party mess when this happened.  Its utterly bizarre to an outsider, its not about which side you are on, its about policies, I mean to the grown up countries.

[lannarebirth]

5 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

You couldn't speak of politicians as if they were breaking ranks unless you were already in the two party mess when this happened.  Its utterly bizarre to an outsider, its not about which side you are on, its about policies, I mean to the grown up countries.

 

They didn't break ranks, the ranks followed the money.

 

There really aren't any good policies. The best you can hope for is when two parties bargain away measures designed to benefit their specific voters in a compromise neither party likes. That's probably going to be pretty good policy.

[DoctorG]

Early days yet but I am going to predict Biden and Harris as the last two standing with the corporate arm and super delegates probably opting for Biden.

[sukhumvitneon]

11 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

There really aren't any good policies. The best you can hope for is when two parties bargain away measures designed to benefit their specific voters in a compromise neither party likes. That's probably going to be pretty good policy.

The best we can hope for is for the two party system to be completely destroyed.  I won't be holding my breath.

[Jingthing]

7 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Early days yet but I am going to predict Biden and Harris as the last two standing with the corporate arm and super delegates probably opting for Biden.

The superdelegate thing has been greatly weakened, for better or worse. 

That's as good a prediction as any about the last two front runners at this ridiculously early stage. 

Meaning it probably won't play out that way. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/31/opinion/letters/democratic-party-superdelegates.html

 

 

Quote

 

The Democrats’ Bad Move on Superdelegates

The Democratic Party may regret weakening the power of its party elders, readers say.

 

 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, sukhumvitneon said:

The best we can hope for is for the two party system to be completely destroyed.  I won't be holding my breath.

For the immediate future let's just hope that "trump" is destroyed.

[soistalker]

Creepy Uncle Joe

https://youtu.be/KQ-YjGmpO4Q

[soistalker]

"I'm gonna get me a beer," Elizabeth Warren on the creepiest live chat ever.

 

[Kieran00001]

24 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

They didn't break ranks, the ranks followed the money.

 

There really aren't any good policies. The best you can hope for is when two parties bargain away measures designed to benefit their specific voters in a compromise neither party likes. That's probably going to be pretty good policy.

 

No, that's the best you can hope for, we already have better thanks.

[Jingthing]

17 minutes ago, soistalker said:

Creepy Uncle Joe

https://youtu.be/KQ-YjGmpO4Q

Who cares? Look at the horror show we have in the white house.

[Silurian]

Oh look, another angry opinionated old white guy running for president. Yawn.

 

At least the Democratic candidates running so far are a good field of various minorities. This time around, it is nice too see such diversity vying for the big office.

 

I am looking forward to seeing how each and every one of the potential candidates roll out their respective campaigns. The first debates are going to be interesting with such a huge number of candidates running.

 

The first primaries will whittle down the choices pretty fast with California joining in on Super Tuesday (March 3rd). Still a whole year away and many campaign stops and debates to go.

 

Also, here is to hoping that there will be other Republicans vying for the office to get a primary choice on that side as well. William Weld has announced already. Maybe Larry Hogan? There are other potential candidates just waiting in the wings. That side might blow wide open.

[Stargeezr]

I am glad that Bernie is running again. Have you seen how Fox.com asian TV is making like. Oh he is a Socialist, sounding like he is the Devil walking on Earth. What a sad pathetic TV station.  My opinion of course,  I just wish there was an American TV network, CBS, or ABC, that broadcast in Asia.

Geezer

[Jingthing]

12 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

I am glad that Bernie is running again. Have you seen how Fox.com asian TV is making like. Oh he is a Socialist, sounding like he is the Devil walking on Earth. What a sad pathetic TV station.  My opinion of course,  I just wish there was an American TV network, CBS, or ABC, that broadcast in Asia.

Geezer

Streaming CNN and MSNBC.

Enjoy!

https://www.livenewsmag.com/

I only get Fox on my local cable. It's worthwhile to watch though because they basically force feed policies to "trump" during his copious "executive" time. He doesn't control the media, but Fox media controls him. 

[Jingthing]

17 minutes ago, Silurian said:

Oh look, another angry opinionated old white guy running for president. Yawn.

 

At least the Democratic candidates running so far are a good field of various minorities. This time around, it is nice too see such diversity vying for the big office.

 

I am looking forward to seeing how each and every one of the potential candidates roll out their respective campaigns. The first debates are going to be interesting with such a huge number of candidates running.

 

The first primaries will whittle down the choices pretty fast with California joining in on Super Tuesday (March 3rd). Still a whole year away and many campaign stops and debates to go.

 

Also, here is to hoping that there will be other Republicans vying for the office to get a primary choice on that side as well. William Weld has announced already. Maybe Larry Hogan? There are other potential candidates just waiting in the wings. That side might blow wide open.

Sanders is a minority as well. 

[Lacessit]

I believe it was Gore Vidal who said all a person had to do to be President was look good on TV. Trump certainly conforms to that observation. Bernie Sanders less so, unfortunately.

[Silurian]

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Sanders is a minority as well. 

Yes, I know. He comes from Jewish heritage.

 

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, Lacessit said:

I believe it was Gore Vidal who said all a person had to do to be President was look good on TV. Trump certainly conforms to that observation. Bernie Sanders less so, unfortunately.

You think "trump" looks good? Hmm. 

[lannarebirth]

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I believe it was Gore Vidal who said all a person had to do to be President was look good on TV. Trump certainly conforms to that observation. Bernie Sanders less so, unfortunately.

I liked old Gore Vidal. He was an a-hole but at least he was witty, ascerbic though it may have been.

[Lacessit]

Just now, Jingthing said:

You think "trump" looks good? Hmm. 

Not at all, as a President. Just saying his experience with TV reality shows and makeup artists gives him an edge in that area. Reagan, Kennedy, Carter and Obama all used TV effectively. They say Kennedy's win over Nixon was partly due to Nixon's five o'clock shadow on TV, which compared poorly with Kennedy's looks.

[Hanaguma]

9 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Not at all, as a President. Just saying his experience with TV reality shows and makeup artists gives him an edge in that area. Reagan, Kennedy, Carter and Obama all used TV effectively. They say Kennedy's win over Nixon was partly due to Nixon's five o'clock shadow on TV, which compared poorly with Kennedy's looks.

...also the fact that Nixon was recovering from hospitalization, which left him pale and weakened.  Nobody remembers that Nixon did much better in subsequent debates with Sen. Kennedy, the damage had been done. 

 

Trump is tall, looks strong, and has a great tailor. Counts for a lot these days.

[attrayant]

What kind of tailor tells you to wear your tie down to your knees?