UK Accountant in BKK (or in UK?)

[canerandagio]

Hello all,

 

Not sure if this query makes sense, but is there an accountancy firm in Bangkok able deal with my UK tax position, tax return etc, familiar with issues pertaining to people who moved out of the UK?

Or can anyone recommend someone in the UK for this?

 

Thanks in advance,

straydog

Edited March 3, 2019 by canerandagio

[Yellowtail]

I'm from the US and Deloitte for both Thai and US filings.

[canerandagio]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

I'm from the US and Deloitte for both Thai and US filings.

Thanks. Can you give me an idea of approximate costs for a normal guy like me just needing little advice and a tax return?

I know I should ask them ???? but it's Sunday, and I am in full decision-making mode...  in USD, 100? 200? 1000?

[sanemax]

I  use a UK tax company to fill in and submit my tax returns , you just have to tell him all the figures and he fills the form out on-line and submits it to the I.R. , he used to work for the I.R. and knows it all .

   He charges 120 GBP to fill in and submit the tax return , PM me if you want his contact details

[NightSky]

2 minutes ago, canerandagio said:

Thanks. Can you give me an idea of approximate costs for a normal guy like me just needing little advice and a tax return?

I know I should ask them ???? but it's Sunday, and I am in full decision-making mode...  in USD, 100? 200? 1000?

As mentioned you can simply contact any UK accountant to file a UK tax return for you for about 120 pounds that’s about what I pay also

 

or you can register a tax account with the HMRC and file your own return online for free

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, canerandagio said:

Thanks. Can you give me an idea of approximate costs for a normal guy like me just needing little advice and a tax return?

I know I should ask them ???? but it's Sunday, and I am in full decision-making mode...  in USD, 100? 200? 1000?

They have per-hour rates for in-office consultations, which (I think) are around $70. 

[canerandagio]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

They have per-hour rates for in-office consultations, which (I think) are around $70. 

Thanks a lot. If you have any specific recommendation about Deloitte office I'll appreciate. Otherwise I'll look at google. Helpful. Cheers.

[canerandagio]

3 minutes ago, NightSky said:

As mentioned you can simply contact any UK accountant to file a UK tax return for you for about 120 pounds that’s about what I pay also

 

or you can register a tax account with the HMRC and file your own return online for free

Thanks. I remember that filing online wasn't possible for non UK residents two-three years back. Do you have direct experience that it's possible now?

[canerandagio]

9 minutes ago, sanemax said:

I  use a UK tax company to fill in and submit my tax returns , you just have to tell him all the figures and he fills the form out on-line and submits it to the I.R. , he used to work for the I.R. and knows it all .

   He charges 120 GBP to fill in and submit the tax return , PM me if you want his contact details

Thanks will do.

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, canerandagio said:

Thanks a lot. If you have any specific recommendation about Deloitte office I'll appreciate. Otherwise I'll look at google. Helpful. Cheers.

Darunee Suphanphing does my Thai return, she seems competant. 

 

 

[NightSky]

1 minute ago, canerandagio said:

Thanks. I remember that filing online wasn't possible for non UK residents two-three years back. Do you have direct experience that it's possible now?

The gov hmrc site has been updated just recently although I’m not sure if you require a UK address or not to register a new account. Maybe you just require national insurance number?

 

You could check in minutes though just goto the website

 

Alternatively you can use an accountant

[sanemax]

Just a reminder for Brits abroad , if you were on Self-assessment tax basis , you still have to submit your yearly self-assessment tax returns to the Inland revenue , even if you are not living or working in the U.K. otherwise they will fine you 10 quid a day for not submitting your tax return on time , even if its zero .

[Yellowtail]

The tax-man is nothing if not relentless. 

 

 

[topt]

4 hours ago, canerandagio said:

Thanks. I remember that filing online wasn't possible for non UK residents two-three years back. Do you have direct experience that it's possible now?

No experience but my understanding is yes it is but only if you use some commercial software to file it.

The non resident form part (SA109) otherwise is only available in paper format not on HMRC's own online filing.

[stanleycoin]

5 minutes ago, topt said:

No experience but my understanding is yes it is but only if you use some commercial software to file it.

The non resident form part (SA109) otherwise is only available in paper format not on HMRC's own online filing.

non resident SA109 needs to be done on line only, with approved software

no paper return now.

[topt]

Just now, stanleycoin said:

non resident SA109 needs to be done on line only, with approved software

no paper return now.

Since when?

[stanleycoin]

8 minutes ago, topt said:

Since when?

oops, meant the none resident landlords section on SA105 

 

 

Edited March 3, 2019 by stanleycoin

[topt]

2 minutes ago, stanleycoin said:

oops, meant the none resident landlords SA 105 

Sorry stanleycoin but again when has this changed and can you point to a reference as I cannot find anything online?

 

As the SA 109 cannot be filed online (without paying for software) I have to complete a paper return. I will be surprised if HMRC force everybody to pay for specialist software by removing the option to send the SA 105 in a paper format?

[evadgib]

5 hours ago, sanemax said:

Just a reminder for Brits abroad , if you were on Self-assessment tax basis , you still have to submit your yearly self-assessment tax returns to the Inland revenue , even if you are not living or working in the U.K. otherwise they will fine you 10 quid a day for not submitting your tax return on time , even if its zero .

I have never submitted one or been fined; presumably because I left UK before all that started.

Edited March 3, 2019 by evadgib

[evadgib]

6 hours ago, NightSky said:

The gov hmrc site has been updated just recently although I’m not sure if you require a UK address or not to register a new account. Maybe you just require national insurance number?

 

You could check in minutes though just goto the website

 

Alternatively you can use an accountant

Setting up a Govt Gateway a/c was explained a few days ago on the NI Contributions thread.

HTH

[stanleycoin]

3 hours ago, topt said:

Sorry stanleycoin but again when has this changed and can you point to a reference as I cannot find anything online?

 

As the SA 109 cannot be filed online (without paying for software) I have to complete a paper return. I will be surprised if HMRC force everybody to pay for specialist software by removing the option to send the SA 105 in a paper format?

No

Be surprised then. 

[stanleycoin]

11 hours ago, topt said:

Sorry stanleycoin but again when has this changed and can you point to a reference as I cannot find anything online?

 

As the SA 109 cannot be filed online (without paying for software) I have to complete a paper return. I will be surprised if HMRC force everybody to pay for specialist software by removing the option to send the SA 105 in a paper format?

Your correct, i'm wrong, 

I got mixed up with this,  as i missed the October deadline for paper returns.

so i had to do my return on line instead,  with some approved software or get fined.

I now,  just do it on line. 

 

I did think,  i read some place that paper returns were now being phased out in 2018 for non resident landlords. but obliviously i was wrong about that.

My apologies. 

 

[OJAS]

On 3/3/2019 at 6:24 PM, stanleycoin said:

non resident SA109 needs to be done on line only, with approved software

no paper return now.

Not true! To quote from https://www.gov.uk/self-assessment-tax-returns/sending-return :-

 

"You can send a return using commercial software or paper forms.

 

"You must use one of these options to send returns

 

for a partnership
for a trust and estate
if you get income from a trust
if you lived abroad as a non-resident
if you’re a Lloyd’s underwriter
if you’re a religious minister
to report profits made on selling or disposing of more than one asset (‘chargeable gains’)"

[JAS21]

On 3/3/2019 at 6:24 PM, stanleycoin said:

non resident SA109 needs to be done on line only, with approved software

no paper return now.

 I used Taxcalc whilst in the UK since about year 2000 ... came here in 2007 and have used it every year since.

 

If you have a credit/debit card registered to you here in Thailand you won't pay VAT on the cost of the program ...about £25 for last years.