55Jay Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Yeah, there's definitely a missing ingredient here. But in all fairness, my country was like that in a lot of places 40 years ago. Trash dumps along side of roads and in stands of trees just out of sight from the road, and some major cities were absolute shit holes. Took time, government campaigns and enforcement, and slowly seeped into the collective conscious in following generations. These days, if someone tossed a used drink container out their car window at a red traffic signal no doubt someone nearby would call them on it, possibly more than 1. It's just not acceptable behavior anymore. The area I have to pass through to get home here is disgusting. All sorts of trash along side the roads, packs of soi dogs lingering around, roads are absolute shit. It's an eye sore. There was a bunch of broken glass right in the middle of my soi for 2 days. I noticed it just as I crunched though it riding my pushbike yesterday ????. The people living in the house right where it was (renters) didn't care. Last night during walk/exercise, I took a big broom and swept it off the roadway. People were watching me from inside houses and patios. Good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 36 minutes ago, Cake Monster said: Its good to see that there are well intentioned people on the Planet, but such a shame these people came to LOS, for a holiday and were compelled to clear all the trash off the beach. Does Thailand have no shame ? Nope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 22 hours ago, johng said: 23 hours ago, SammyT said: Sigh. Always one that makes that same, tired quip. Congratulations Remember the Tsunami volunteers ? Yes, also something we are constantly reminded of whenever someone makes a post about "working for free" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidst01 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 23 hours ago, johng said: Work permits ? !!! such a stupid comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 such a stupid commentWhy ? You do know that as a foreigner you need a work permit to legaly work in Thailand ? the fact that sometimes a "blind eye is turned" is neither here nor there. Work is defined as expending energy either physical or mental whether paid for or not...its a catch all definition..lots have been caught out by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 23 hours ago, johng said: Work permits ? !!! Ever heard of the TRASH HEROES groups all over the Kingdom none have work permits ,no one has been arrested or warned. Have their own facebook pages hardly hiding.Thais and Foreigners all doing a great job, why dont you join ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Ever heard of the TRASH HEROES groups all over the Kingdom none have work permits ,no one has been arrested or warned. Have their own facebook pages hardly hiding.Thais and Foreigners all doing a great job, why dont you join ?No thanks....no work permit no work...its quite simple...why risk arrest and possible deportation ?...like I said before the fact that "a blind eye" is often turned for others doesn't help when you are in the monkey house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harleyclarkey Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 10:45 AM, Kadilo said: How utterly boring and predictable. Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Come on ....lighten up! I am sure he said it tongue in cheek... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Come on ....lighten up! I am sure he said it tongue in cheek...Yes partly said in jest...notice the [emoji39] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 How utterly boring and predictable. Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile appIts not so boring when you have to find 70,000 baht "right now" or you're in the "monkey house" for the weekend !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldBattles Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 If you think the beaches are trashy take a look at the front yards of Thai houses. Inside looks worse than outside. Not sure why they have no pride in their property. The village compound next door to me is like a slum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonnoon Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Absolutely shameful and disgusting that the residents and gov't have no care nor will to keep their surroundings clean!! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Spend money to fly to Krabi, work illegally, dont pay taxes on zero income - bad, bad alien ...... What a shame for Thailand and the citizen of Krabi ....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokakrishna Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Thailand takes so much revenue from tourists, but gives nothing back, no infrastructure, no-life guards on the beaches, garbage everywhere. Shame on you greedy nation Well done LoD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 15 hours ago, 55Jay said: Yeah, there's definitely a missing ingredient here. But in all fairness, my country was like that in a lot of places 40 years ago. Trash dumps along side of roads and in stands of trees just out of sight from the road, and some major cities were absolute shit holes. Took time, government campaigns and enforcement, and slowly seeped into the collective conscious in following generations. These days, if someone tossed a used drink container out their car window at a red traffic signal no doubt someone nearby would call them on it, possibly more than 1. It's just not acceptable behavior anymore. The area I have to pass through to get home here is disgusting. All sorts of trash along side the roads, packs of soi dogs lingering around, roads are absolute shit. It's an eye sore. There was a bunch of broken glass right in the middle of my soi for 2 days. I noticed it just as I crunched though it riding my pushbike yesterday ????. The people living in the house right where it was (renters) didn't care. Last night during walk/exercise, I took a big broom and swept it off the roadway. People were watching me from inside houses and patios. Good! I've started to do this with the nutter facing me, (the one who now has seven dogs). Only its dog turds. She lets them out (dogs) for a crap, I deposit all the turds back in her drive at night. She normally flicks them down the drain.. The ecology chain is about as stable as the space between their ears. They feed the dog whatever. Put Turds down the drain. Into Pattaya central system and into the sea. Become yum cha for the fish. We eat the fish. Scraps to the dogs. Starts all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5633572526 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:59 PM, Nyezhov said: Kudos to them. If everyone here who bitches about the garbage spent 3 hours a week in a group cleaning a couple of blocks it would be more worthwhile than complaining. Id do it. Why aren’t the people profiting from the beaches keeping them clean?? How do you tout yourself as a “world class tourist destination” if you can’t be bothered to clean your own beaches?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:46 PM, Kadilo said: Well done to them. Sadly doubt we will be seeing them come back anytime soon. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect I dont agree, its not their responsibility and no doubt the Thai individuals who should be doing the job, will just sit back under a tree, smile, eat their rice and and thank them. All these people are doing is making the locals even lazier than they already are. I would not lift a finger to help the Thais clear up their mess, unless it directly impinged on my life. Fortunately I don't live near a filthy beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:38 PM, johng said: Work permits ? !!! Immigration will fine them but not until there finished. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 6:39 PM, Youlike said: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/Tsunami-volunteers-warned-work-permits This was published 6 weeks after the tsunami, for anyone like me that was in Phuket or abouts at the time will know that volunteers went unhindered during the emergency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 hours ago, baansgr said: volunteers went unhindered during the emergency And they got such a nice thank you for all their work...Thanks now "bugger off" unless you got a work permit !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajarnbrian Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 7:07 PM, the guest said: I don't lift a finger in Thailand, always somebody waiting to report you. Waste of time unless the locals do it instead. Just could be that you and many foreigners with high demands for packaged products are part of the problem. I welcome solutions, and you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just could be that you and many foreigners with high demands for packaged products are part of the problem. I welcome solutions, and you?One solution is for the government both local and national to provide adequate waste collection and recycling services so everyone can utilise them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Why aren’t the people profiting from the beaches keeping them clean?? How do you tout yourself as a “world class tourist destination” if you can’t be bothered to clean your own beaches??Most of the rubbish is washed ashore from ships throwing their trash overboard and littered klangs/ rivers emptying into the sea. The government makes enough off tourism that it could afford to hire a crew of needy souls needing employment ( 300 baht a day is the going rate) to clean the beaches every morning. Foreign tourists who have paid for their flights and hotels plus using their well earned vacation days to pick up garbage have better things to do. It’s the TAT responsibility to clean up the beaches. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 10:38 AM, johng said: Work permits ? !!! No, just idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 3:05 AM, Pilotman said: I dont agree, its not their responsibility and no doubt the Thai individuals who should be doing the job, will just sit back under a tree, smile, eat their rice and and thank them. All these people are doing is making the locals even lazier than they already are. I would not lift a finger to help the Thais clear up their mess, unless it directly impinged on my life. Fortunately I don't live near a filthy beach. Being rewarded for being lazy or stupid is something many people have come to expect and accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozmeldo Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Waste of a holiday. If you must do this, do it at home where it will be appreciated. As someone who spends lots of time on Thai beaches I can tell you the trash was back the next morning. Many years ago I picked up huge amounts of trash on a beach Jan 2. The Thai all day in the shade. When I was done, they applauded me. The government doesn't care. There were no Thai picking that trash up the day before and there will be no Thai picking trash up the day after. Hope they were careful and avoided broken glass and syringes. Don't worry the trash will disappear in less than ten years when fishing stocks fully depleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I would feel highly ashamed and humiliated with a total loss of face, if my nation needed falangs and foreign guests visiting, having to clean up the local trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampson Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 When I stayed on Raillay Beach, a tractor (on the cheaper side without the proper beach) drove out into the sea with bags of rubbish on as far as they could get it and they just launched it all into the sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidAlexander Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I'm American. Why does Thailand have an aversion to 55 gallon (old oil drums) trash bins? In the States, admittedly more litter-conscious than Thailand, parks, BEACHES, street corners, anywhere there can be trash there is a place to put it. Why can't the Thais figure this out? And yes, I've heard, "It'll put all the 60yo street sweepers out of work", so don't bother. Also, I know several Thais, usually younger, who are environmentalists and are sick of the trash everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenail Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I'm American. Why does Thailand have an aversion to 55 gallon (old oil drums) trash bins? In the States, admittedly more litter-conscious than Thailand, parks, BEACHES, street corners, anywhere there can be trash there is a place to put it. Why can't the Thais figure this out? And yes, I've heard, "It'll put all the 60yo street sweepers out of work", so don't bother. Also, I know several Thais, usually younger, who are environmentalists and are sick of the trash everywhere.Unfortunately any decent looking trash bin would be stolen by some local. ( I have lived here for 15 years) Also, they’re not pro-active enough ( at outdoor festivals, or even at a mall) to think of distributing trash cans / bins around so people can get rid of their litter properly. How many times have we walked around endlessly in a city in Thailand trying to find a place to throw away our empty water bottle or cup? I guess we do what the locals do- leave it along the curb or where you were sitting. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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