SheungWan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: And Corbyn isn’t leading Brexit, therefore not the cause of its failure. But scatter the blame why don’t you. He was certainly a contributor to the failure of the Remain campaign and his continued foot-dragging a major factor of the current situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 40 minutes ago, vogie said: We all know the theory side of things BB, but in reality 500 MPs voted for art 50 to take us out of the EU, or was that advisory too. And how will you regard the MPs voting down no-deal Brexit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The Lisbon Treaty is rotten throughout.Shh. Don’t say anything like that. They don’t like it you know. They will probably censor it away from view. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted March 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, SheungWan said: And how will you regard the MPs voting down no-deal Brexit? Renegers, what bargaining power will the UK have if no deal leaves the table. They voted to leave the EU, taking no deal off the table is the process to remain in the EU, nothing less. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, vogie said: Renegers, what bargaining power will the UK have if no deal leaves the table. They voted to leave the EU, taking no deal off the table is the process to remain in the EU, nothing less. Threatening to shoot yourself is not a negotiating position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius verus Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I don't care about the UK but surely they're better off out of the modern day EU which is now loaded up with 3rd world economies and Turkey is soon to worsen the situation. These countries will behave the same as Greece and bludge off wealthier members goodwill and credit lines. I can see Germany pulling out soon. I bet their still pissed with Greece. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Loiner said: Shh. Don’t say anything like that. They don’t like it you know. They will probably censor it away from view. Actually we are focused on the no-deal Brexit vote in the Commons today. Edited March 13, 2019 by SheungWan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Lucius verus said: I don't care about the UK but surely they're better off out of the modern day EU which is now loaded up with 3rd world economies and Turkey is soon to worsen the situation. These countries will behave the same as Greece and bludge off wealthier members goodwill and credit lines. I can see Germany pulling out soon. I bet their still pissed with Greece. I can see lots of things with wacky tobaccie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, SheungWan said: Actually we are focused on the no-Brexit vote in the Commons today. No deal Brexit vote ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, SheungWan said: Actually we are focused on the no-Brexit vote in the Commons today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, sanemax said: No deal Brexit vote ? Oops! yes. Corrected. Edited March 13, 2019 by SheungWan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted March 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2019 And how will you regard the MPs voting down no-deal Brexit?They won’t have voted down The Withdrawal Act or it’s Exit Day, which is 29th March 2019 at 11:00 pm. That’s already a law and subject to other procedures to change it.Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lucius verus said: I bet their still pissed with Greece. Maybe. Certainly picked up experience of dealing with a nation state throwing tantrums and endlessly arguing with itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Loiner said: They won’t have voted down The Withdrawal Act or it’s Exit Day, which is 29th March 2019 at 11:00 pm. That’s already a law and subject to other procedures to change it. I am informed that sometimes night follows day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted March 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2019 I am informed that sometimes night follows day.But if enough Remainers claim the contrary do you think that will change? How are you going to trick that away?Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Loiner said: They won’t have voted down The Withdrawal Act or it’s Exit Day, which is 29th March 2019 at 11:00 pm. That’s already a law and subject to other procedures to change it. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Won’t you feel a bit daft on 30th March when that doesn’t happen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) I am curious to know which solid reason the E.U. would accept to grant extension , short or long …., could be a tricky question ,with demands ... heard some rumors Edited March 13, 2019 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, melvinmelvin said: I am not addressing lengths of events but may-deal and no-deal being sorted the first day never mind - not important - can't be bothered to wade back through the threads I am quoting Andrea Leadsome, leader of the house. This week's business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, vogie said: Renegers, what bargaining power will the UK have if no deal leaves the table. They voted to leave the EU, taking no deal off the table is the process to remain in the EU, nothing less. Taking 'no deal' off the table removes the catastrophic effect of an economic disaster that very few MPs would relish or support. Remaining in the EU under our current terms is the best deal that the UK could expect - far better than any other leaving deal that parliament could muster. I have not read any posts that support leaving the EU, in whatever shape or form, that details the personal benefits of leaving. That the UK can make trade deals with the Falklands doesn't exactly rock my boat, neither does it help me in any way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulthailand99 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 hours ago, bomber said: its not happening,the dream is over dream, nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulthailand99 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 35 minutes ago, vogie said: Renegers, what bargaining power will the UK have if no deal leaves the table. They voted to leave the EU, taking no deal off the table is the process to remain in the EU, nothing less. Correct , I agree with your analysis. Thankfully, it will shortly be cancelled, or, to use the technical terminology, postponed indefinitely! Rejoice, rejoice rejoice, as Mrs T once said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, stephenterry said: I have not read any posts that support leaving the EU, in whatever shape or form, that details the personal benefits of leaving. Where have you been for the last 3 years on TV. We have had at least two of the biggest threads on the subject of brexit removed, so either you haven't been here long or you didn't read any of those and current threads. I would go over it all but it has been done to death. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said: Enlighten me where I have stated Corbyn is the cause of brexits failure. I guess that you can't considering you are replying to other posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Won’t you feel a bit daft on 30th March when that doesn’t happen?Even the arch Remainers are not so sure now. Chance of no-deal Brexit has 'significantly increased', says EU – as it happenedhttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/mar/12/brexit-mps-vote-theresa-may-backstop-deal-jeremy-corbyn-politics-liveSent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlexRich Posted March 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, Loiner said: Even the arch Remainers are not so sure now. Chance of no-deal Brexit has 'significantly increased', says EU – as it happenedhttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/mar/12/brexit-mps-vote-theresa-may-backstop-deal-jeremy-corbyn-politics-live Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app The EU don’t want no deal, and neither does Parliament. You don’t think that these conversations have not already been had? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbothaivisa Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said: Correct , I agree with your analysis. Thankfully, it will shortly be cancelled, or, to use the technical terminology, postponed indefinitely! Rejoice, rejoice rejoice, as Mrs T once said. Voters will not rejoice, quite the opposite. And those who delight in the prospect of democracy being thrown out will be sorely disappointed - there's simply no logical alternative. Edited March 13, 2019 by timbothaivisa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The EU don’t want no deal, and neither does Parliament. You don’t think that these conversations have not already been had? The EU May ‘give’ us no deal:Donald Tusk said: “On the EU side we have done all that is possible to reach an agreement ... With only 17 days left to 29 March, today’s vote has significantly increased the likelihood of a no-deal Brexit.”One of those days has gone already!Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlexRich Posted March 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, timbothaivisa said: Voters will not rejoice, quite the opposite. And those who delight in the prospect of democracy being thrown out will be sorely disappointed - there's simply no logical alternative. I think people are heartily sick of Brexit. I’m not sure anyone would care that much. A few hardcore groups causing street trouble but that would eventually fizzle out to nothing. With such a close vote the only way of delivering it was for everyone to compromise a bit, that would have given the UK a chance to reconcile. Going for a winner takes all approach was a huge mistake. And now instead of just the Tory party being split it is the whole country. I think the UK will break up within a decade. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlexRich Posted March 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Loiner said: The EU May ‘give’ us no deal: Donald Tusk said: “On the EU side we have done all that is possible to reach an agreement ... With only 17 days left to 29 March, today’s vote has significantly increased the likelihood of a no-deal Brexit.” One of those days has gone already! Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Yes. 16 days until you are proved wrong. Not long to wait. You are confusing political rhetoric with intent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persimmon Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Yes,Brexit hopes are fading fast. Lets examine the facts - 1) MPs cant agree on a deal 2)MPs won`t vote for " No deal " So that means that an impasse has been reached.The only way out would seem to be a second referendum ( Which remain would win ) , or a general election to give Parliament the authority to cancel Brexit. What a sorry state of affairs,real democracy thwarted by self-serving politicians. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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