Video: Much debate as big biker hits pick-up after "tow truck" goes the wrong way

[Tongjaw]

48 minutes ago, moontang said:

but you should do the equivalent of covering your brake, when you see tow lights or disabled vehicles on the side of the road.  There is always danger around a tow truck.  I worked at a Gulf station by the 95/495 interchange in Virginia..absolutely crazy.  We had the towing contract from the State Police.  The owner's son was hit by a drunk while hooking up a disabled vehicle.  I also was a CDL school bus driver, and had loads of defensive driving training.  When you rear end someone, it is your fault a very high percentage of time, even if the car you hit stopped suddenly in the acceleration lane.  There are usually laws regarding safe speed for circumstances, even if the posted speed is much higher.  And again, they were on the frontage road, as we would call it; nothing near a limited access freeway.  I am not going to analyze it, not my job, but would like to see his speed calculated.  I counted one mississippi from the brake lights.  Big trucks, big bikes..not really a secret what kind of guys drive them.

 

 

Big trucks, big bikes..not really a secret what kind of guys drive them? What's that rubbish all about?

[seajae]

tow truck driver is going the wrong way along a road, totally at fault, he wanted to get to the accident first to make money so didnt give a sh*t what he did to do so, money rules in Thailand. Hopefully the police will hit him up for causing the accident with the truck and the bike and make him pay both for damages and injuries then take his licence

 

[Derek B]

Maybe the tow truck got clipped by the large truck in front of the dark pick up which sent the tow truck into the dark pick up.

 

[donim]

Where is the video? Don't see it on the Thairath site either.

[connda]

Thai laws are in the dark ages.
The cops don't understand the laws.
The drivers don't understand the laws.

The judiciary don't understand the laws.

The needless to say, TV members don't understand the laws.

The truck traveling the wrong way and causing the accident is the proximate cause to all the damage.  But honestly, I don't believe that this country has a set of traffic laws like first world nations. 
And so the carnage continues unabated, unsanctioned, and without penalties that are harsh enough to stop future infractions.

Edited March 26, 2019 by connda

[Pepper9187]

6 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Bike camera saw the black truck brake lights on - did he slow down ?

No.

Cretin

You obviously haven't watched the video.

You just looked at the picture, think first, comment after.

 

2 hours ago, moontang said:

bike was going too fast and was not driving defensively on an access road, where there are busses, pedestrians, and cars stopping and pulling out.  Tow had his flashers on, indicating caution.  Let them fight it out.

 

The bike was overtaking the white pickup, i don't think he was overspeeding, could he have drove a bit slower ? Maybe
Would it have changed the outcome ? NoooOOot

[Grusa]

I have ploughed through 5 (well 4, and skimmed the rest,) pages of comment on this. I detect only one expression of concern for the welfare of the people concerned. I jave watched this at least six times, it all happens so fast it is difficult to discern the exact sequence of events. How much more difficult if you are actually involved?

 

What happened to the biker? Did the tow truck driver , or anyone else, stop and render aid? Did the BiB attend? Did anyone notice the grim reaper lurking on frame 20967?

 

We all know defensive driving is essential here. Most of us can see that driving against the legal and established direction of traffic is not exactly safe or SOP, but do so at your own risk.

 

The culprit is obvious but unscathed, the victims are damaged but not empowered to do anything about it.

[canthai55]

9 minutes ago, Pepper9187 said:

You obviously haven't watched the video.

You just looked at the picture, think first, comment after.

I watched in numerous times before posting.

Some agree with me - those whose past posts indicate proof that they ride bikes and know how to do it.

The remainder of the posts - from people who A. do not ride bikes B. Can not see the sequence of events unfolding before their eyes.

If that biker had any experience - and I mean a capacity to anticipate events unfolding, or potentially unfolding - in front of him, he would have slowed down. When the black truck was struck and entered his lane he would have been going slow enuf to stop before impact.

It matters nothing who is at fault when you ride a bike. All other vehicles on the road are lethal to you if you do not ride to Live.

Oh - it wasn't his fault - as they carry the coffin to the fire.

Lot of good that does him. Learn to ride, or die in the process.

[Lacessit]

7 hours ago, colinneil said:

Tow truck 100% to blame, whether he had a siren on, lights flashing, he had no right going against the traffic.

Come on Colin. Every Thai has travelled on the wrong side of the road against the traffic. It's in the DNA.

Heaven help me, I've done it too. Does that mean I'm assimilated?

[Pepper9187]

6 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

I watched in numerous times before posting.

Some agree with me - those whose past posts indicate proof that they ride bikes and know how to do it.

The remainder of the posts - from people who A. do not ride bikes B. Can not see the sequence of events unfolding before their eyes.

If that biker had any experience - and I mean a capacity to anticipate events unfolding, or potentially unfolding - in front of him, he would have slowed down. When the black truck was struck and entered his lane he would have been going slow enuf to stop before impact.

It matters nothing who is at fault when you ride a bike. All other vehicles on the road are lethal to you if you do not ride to Live.

Oh - it wasn't his fault - as they carry the coffin to the fire.

Lot of good that does him. Learn to ride, or die in the process.

Right, many many agreed indeed.

 

[PerkinsCuthbert]

Sheer, utter, comprehensive bone stupidity. And even more remarkably, there doesn't appear to be a consensus among Thai readers online that the brain-dead moron in the pickup was to blame.

It's as if the logic fairy forgot to visit Thailand when the world was created.

Edited March 26, 2019 by PerkinsCuthbert

[brokenbone]

25 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

I watched in numerous times before posting.

Some agree with me - those whose past posts indicate proof that they ride bikes and know how to do it.

The remainder of the posts - from people who A. do not ride bikes B. Can not see the sequence of events unfolding before their eyes.

If that biker had any experience - and I mean a capacity to anticipate events unfolding, or potentially unfolding - in front of him, he would have slowed down. When the black truck was struck and entered his lane he would have been going slow enuf to stop before impact.

It matters nothing who is at fault when you ride a bike. All other vehicles on the road are lethal to you if you do not ride to Live.

Oh - it wasn't his fault - as they carry the coffin to the fire.

Lot of good that does him. Learn to ride, or die in the process.

you are delusional yet again, nobody agrees with you

and the bike had the right of way in his lane,

he could not see a moron came driving the wrong way

and he could not anticipate the moron would push the pickup into his lane a second before crash

Edited March 26, 2019 by brokenbone

[Ramdas]

7 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Bike camera saw the black truck brake lights on - did he slow down ?

No.

Cretin

Speaking from a lifelong biker’s experience, the poor bastard had no chance to avoid the collusion ( Collusion, sounds it familiar ? ????????‍♂️ ) Even if he had a chance to brake he would have ended up under the pick up truck either way, it’s definately the other prick’s fault driving up the wrong way, that’s looking for troubles, had it been the police, I’m sure these would’ve slow down even more, cretin ????

Edited March 26, 2019 by Ramdas
Forgot to add cretin 555

[SuperTed]

Sadly, the biker would have been hit regardless.

 

But from the video, its clear the biker was looking to overtake the white truck in his lane after a planned pass of the black. Very dangerous driving on the biker's part. Biker should have downshifted when the black truck changed lanes AND when he saw the white truck hit the brakes. He didn't, and instead was speeding into congestion with no clear path through. 

 

And biker did not downshift when the black truck jumped. Only a second, but he froze. Busy praying no doubt.

 

If your plan is to slam on the brakes on the bumper of the cars you can see in front of you, there is no way to avoid the vehicles you don't see coming. Drive defensively or die. That is Thailand.

[Gandtee]

8 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Bike camera saw the black truck brake lights on - did he slow down ?

No.

Cretin

Obviously, you have never ridden a motorcycle or maybe any vehicle. There was a fraction of a second between the brake lights and the collision. The biker had no chance. More like you are the cretin. 

[Lee4Life]

3 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

I do not know about Thailand, but I do not know of any country that gives a tow truck the same rights a emergency vehicles.

In my past life I was a Tow Truck Owner/Driver in the States. There were instances when I was given the o.k. by the Police to "use all speed necessary", there were also laws such as "no commercial vehicles in left lane" that tow trucks were exempt from. But for the most part I had to obey the laws like everyone else, If we were instructed to enter a freeway the wrong direction we had a police escort.

[Pepper9187]

34 minutes ago, SuperTed said:

Sadly, the biker would have been hit regardless.

 

But from the video, its clear the biker was looking to overtake the white truck in his lane after a planned pass of the black. Very dangerous driving on the biker's part. Biker should have downshifted when the black truck changed lanes AND when he saw the white truck hit the brakes. He didn't, and instead was speeding into congestion with no clear path through. 

 

And biker did not downshift when the black truck jumped. Only a second, but he froze. Busy praying no doubt.

 

If your plan is to slam on the brakes on the bumper of the cars you can see in front of you, there is no way to avoid the vehicles you don't see coming. Drive defensively or die. That is Thailand.

Yep agreed,

The biker failed to see that the traffic was slowing down ahead, he also failed to brake in time, he did not even had his right hand on the brake lever.
But all that being said, he would still have hit the car, that's just a shitty day.

 

In Thailand, we don't say "to be thrown under the bus" but we say "to throw buses under you"

[emptypockets]

15 hours ago, transam said:

Some of you blokes have forgotten the stay safe rule of stay safe law..."Read the road ahead"....The biker is a numb-nut, same as some here...????

How the <deleted> Can the rider read the road ahead in this circumstance. <deleted> a vehicle he could not have seen hit a vehicle in front if him, deaccellarated  said vehicle at a velocity the nobody could out brake.

The numb nut in this thread is not the motorbike rider.

Obvioulsy your 'ride' as you are wont to post is limited to four wheels. You have no qualification to comment POTY in 1932 regardless.

Yes this can be seen as a flame post by the mods, but motorbike safety is something I am passionate about.

So be it.

[emptypockets]

4 hours ago, moontang said:

but you should do the equivalent of covering your brake, when you see tow lights or disabled vehicles on the side of the road.  There is always danger around a tow truck.  I worked at a Gulf station by the 95/495 interchange in Virginia..absolutely crazy.  We had the towing contract from the State Police.  The owner's son was hit by a drunk while hooking up a disabled vehicle.  I also was a CDL school bus driver, and had loads of defensive driving training.  When you rear end someone, it is your fault a very high percentage of time, even if the stopped suddenly in the acceleration lane.  There are usually laws regarding safe speed for circumstances, even if the posted speed is much higher.  And again, they were on the frontage road, as we would call it; nothing near a limited access freeway.  I am not going to analyze it, not my job, but would like to see his speed calculated.  I counted one mississippi from the brake lights.  Big trucks, big bikes..not really a secret what kind of guys drive them.

 

 

Nobody was rear ended it was a head on collision caused by the so called tow truck

[samsensam]

 

not even every day, but every time i leave my condo i see someone; vendor cart owner, cyclist, motorcyclist, or car driver going the wrong way on the road, this dangerously stupid activity is deeply embedded in thai behaviour and i only see it getting worse as no one here, except the foreigners, seems to care.

[White Christmas13]

7 hours ago, stanleycoin said:

Usual day on the roads of Thailand.

Selfish pigs,  full of entitlement at it again. biker never really had a chance.

With the way people ride and driver over here.

Carry on Thailand. 

 

 

Well i watched all carry on movies I think there was 12 made but I must have missed Carry on Thailand ????

[shy coconut]

6 hours ago, Pilotman said:

I've got brains mate, common sense, an IQ over 50 and yes, I do know how to drive correctly. Thai drivers, in the majority, that I observe, have none of those things. It's not all a coincidence that I just happen to see the bad ones, or that only the very rare incidents of stupidity are reported on TV.  It's as common as ants.   As for this clown of a tow truck driver, well he just adheres to the reality of Thai driving. .   

I would guess that every vehicle and bike were driven/ridden by Thais.

 

By your logic (compounded by the totally irrelevant IQ level) everyone

in the short video is to blame.

[ocddave]

11 minutes ago, samsensam said:

 

not even every day, but every time i leave my condo i see someone; vendor cart owner, cyclist, motorcyclist, or car driver going the wrong way on the road, this dangerously stupid activity is deeply embedded in thai behaviour and i only see it getting worse as no one here, except the foreigners, seems to care.

Thats because the IQ of the average driver in Thailand is very low, plus safety to Thai's is based purely on "luck", not commonsense.

[shaurene]

9 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Bike camera saw the black truck brake lights on - did he slow down ?

No.

Cretin

AH, give over, the bike would never have time you are talking seconds mate, get real. You talking bull shit.

[SamuiGeezer]

Not only is the "tow truck" driving the wrong way, it is travelling at speed which is a No No. It also veers off the shoulder directly into the black truck. Whoever was driving the "tow truck" was either a complete idiot or completely "off his head". The biker and black truck had no chance.

[ocddave]

4 minutes ago, SamuiGeezer said:

Not only is the "tow truck" driving the wrong way, it is travelling at speed which is a No No. It also veers off the shoulder directly into the black truck. Whoever was driving the "tow truck" was either a complete idiot or completely "off his head". The biker and black truck had no chance.

You just described the typical Thai driver, nothing new here, just a different day in the LOI (Land of Idiots).

[richard_smith237]

2 hours ago, Gandtee said:

10 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Bike camera saw the black truck brake lights on - did he slow down ?

No.

Cretin

Obviously, you have never ridden a motorcycle or maybe any vehicle. There was a fraction of a second between the brake lights and the collision. The biker had no chance. More like you are the cretin. 

 

Given his comment I don't think canthai55 as ever been in a moving vehicle....  his comment is beyond dumb...  with a complete absence of understanding of reaction time. 

Edited March 26, 2019 by richard_smith237

[Jadam]

10 hours ago, colinneil said:

Tow truck 100% to blame, whether he had a siren on, lights flashing, he had no right going against the traffic.

Agreed.  I don't see the reason for debate.  This is why we shouldn't drive down the wrong side of the road.  Just because you see it every day doesn't make it right to do it.

 

No doubt he was in a hurry to get to the accident first (before another tow truck) so that he could cash in.  It looks like a privately owned tow truck, not a police vehicle so he shouldn't be allowed to use a siren and break traffic laws.  If he was an ambulance responding to a medical emergency, that would be a different story.

[Jadam]

2 hours ago, Pepper9187 said:

The biker failed to see that the traffic was slowing down ahead, he also failed to brake in time, he did not even had his right hand on the brake lever.

He would have had to do some serious Mission Impossible type riding to avoid hitting that truck.  He didn't have time to get his hand on the brake lever, not that it would have helped.  He might have had time to bail off the bike onto the median, but I would have been seriously impressed if he had managed that.

No way the biker was to blame for any part of this.  Purple tow truck 100% of the blame.  Make him pay, throw him in jail and maybe some people will learn not to drive like complete idiots down the shoulder on the wrong side of the f****ng road.

[235214_1469957458]

Like how? or when? have u ever been in any motorized vehicle before? do u even understand how breaking works?  Hypocrite...