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5 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

So which crystal ball have you been looking at.

 

Obviously a non Brit who is a Europohile, telling the British people that they should vote again. No thanks we already voted regardless of what facts you feel are on the table.

 

Why on earth would she say sorry. Besides I believe she is on the EU's side, the UK people voted by over 17.4 million votes to leave the EU and that was no mistake. As for a club, it is more like a street gang that you just can' leave, even though you claim that you are free to go, when you feel like.

It's mother's duty to prevent her stubborn child to drown or perish in desaster. 

Also your understanding of democracy seems to be twisted. If new facts are on the table it's an character of democracy to vote again. Everybody in UK should know now about the risks of leaving the club. 

"Splendid Isolation" doesn't fit anymore

1 minute ago, sawadee1947 said:

It's mother's duty to prevent her stubborn child to drown or perish in desaster. 

Also your understanding of democracy seems to be twisted. If new facts are on the table it's an character of democracy to vote again. Everybody in UK should know now about the risks of leaving the club. 

"Splendid Isolation" doesn't fit anymore

As a UK Citizen, I believe I am entitled to an opinion on UK matters. I voted leave.  Your version of democracy is what. The referendum was a binary vote with a winner and loser. Everyone was informed beforehand.

 

You can keep you club, as it is corrupt and self serving. The UK people voted leave. Accept the result and stop trying to justify for whatever reason, the UK should stay in the EU. People voted leave as they want out. Where are you from again!

2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

I would like them to say OK you have tried our club for 44 years and you are welcome to go on your own.

 

2 hours ago, malagateddy said:

Just kick us out of the wretched corrupt organisation

 

For almost three years you’ve been telling everyone how you would take back control and be a proud sovereign nation doing trade deals with the whole world and now you need someone to say you something and kick you out, which you know the EU does not have any power over because the act of leaving is solely under the responsibility of the UK?

 

(And I don’t even want to start thinking about how Brexiteers would moan about sovereignty and democracy if the EU actually could tell a member country to leave or kick it out. Hypocrites.)

 

 

12 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 

For almost three years you’ve been telling everyone how you would take back control and be a proud sovereign nation doing trade deals with the whole world and now you need someone to say you something and kick you out, which you know the EU does not have any power over because the act of leaving is solely under the responsibility of the UK?

 

(And I don’t even want to start thinking about how Brexiteers would moan about sovereignty and democracy if the EU actually could tell a member country to leave or kick it out. Hypocrites.)

 

 

I was about to reply and then realised who it was from, so pointless.

27 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

 

For almost three years you’ve been telling everyone how you would take back control and be a proud sovereign nation doing trade deals with the whole world and now you need someone to say you something and kick you out, which you know the EU does not have any power over because the act of leaving is solely under the responsibility of the UK?

 

(And I don’t even want to start thinking about how Brexiteers would moan about sovereignty and democracy if the EU actually could tell a member country to leave or kick it out. Hypocrites.)

 

 

"For almost three years you’ve been telling everyone how you would take back control and be a proud sovereign nation doing trade deals with the whole world and now you need someone to say you something and kick you out"

 

I agree with this to a large extent.  Our 'representatives' (i.e. MPs) have let us down badly ☹️.

 

How much worse will they be if they are allowed to get away with this? ????

9 hours ago, Thairealist said:

 

According to reports coming out of the U.K today.

Labour lead by J Corbyn have a 5% lead over the Conservatives, so you and your fellow remainers have definitely achieved something. Well done.

 

Do you have the exact figure as and whose are they, and I assume you have looked at the calendar today...

On 3/31/2019 at 8:42 AM, Basil B said:

Unfortunately I can not believe many of these Hard Brexiteers on this forum actually reside in the UK.  

 

 Again you are wrong. From reading these Brexit threads, many do.

Likewise I notice many, probably the majority of those who support the U.K. remaining in the E.U. do seem to be non British. Why is this?

22 hours ago, Greenisland said:

I am doing exactly that. Quite like you are doing yourself. I am telling people how to think. 

 

17 million people, of which perhaps 10 million were Labour supporters who were eager to kick Tory government's nose in any way possibly.

 

Good riddance. 

 

Then why did 80% of the electorate vote in 2017, for parties that stated they support Brexit in their manifesto? And why do polls in northern Labour constituencies still show support for Briexit.

3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

As a UK Citizen, I believe I am entitled to an opinion on UK matters. I voted leave.  Your version of democracy is what. The referendum was a binary vote with a winner and loser. Everyone was informed beforehand.

 

You can keep you club, as it is corrupt and self serving. The UK people voted leave. Accept the result and stop trying to justify for whatever reason, the UK should stay in the EU. People voted leave as they want out. Where are you from again!

The public was fooled and believed dumb populism. Fortunately now public knows what to expect. 

So matters have changed and a new voting is necessary. Doesn't mean it has to be now but maybe in the future. In a couple of years. 

37 minutes ago, Thairealist said:

 

Then why did 80% of the electorate vote in 2017, for parties that stated they support Brexit in their manifesto? And why do polls in northern Labour constituencies still show support for Briexit.

northern labour strongholds are full of turkeys and dreamers living in the past,i know what iam talking about i have the misfortune to live among them,but luckily not for too much longer,i could write a book about some of the things i hear down my local and on local forums/social media,southerns need to change the phrase northern monkeys to northern turkeys imo. 

On 3/31/2019 at 11:33 AM, soalbundy said:

Well this ought to be another disaster in the making for her, she comes across as a bit of a masochist.

 

        Mason ,  like her Merchant Banker hubby .  I will shake on that.

   Steady on the  Square , lads.

 

 

6 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Stop using the Backstop as a legitimate reason for keeping the UK tied to Brussels. I would like them to say OK you have tried our club for 44 years and you are welcome to go on your own. Good luck as you don't share our vision for even more federalisation and eroding any autonomy, for all countries. We will stop trying to persuade the UK as country to stay in the EU.????

 

You did ask!

The backstop was May's idea. The EU would accept another solution I'm sure. 

No Deal seems to be gaining traction...

 

The Tory parts will split for sure

 

If one retains the name Conservative Party (the unionist bit is redundant obviously) what will the breakaway right wing nutters be called? UKIP? National Socialist Party?

6 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

I was about to reply and then realised who it was from, so pointless.

Appreciate that you s.t.f.u. when you can’t add anything substantial or lack arguments. Wish you would do it more often. 

 

 

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

No Deal seems to be gaining traction...

 

dreaming again

British Patriotic Party

The Tory parts will split for sure
 
If one retains the name Conservative Party (the unionist bit is redundant obviously) what will the breakaway right wing nutters be called? UKIP? National Socialist Party?

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The UK Parliament should agree on Mr. Bean as a transitional PM.
Then they could sell the Brexit at least as a good joke.

4 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

The UK Parliament should agree on Mr. Bean as a transitional PM.
Then they could sell the Brexit at least as a good joke.

I'm sure when the President of the European Union may consider the position when his totalitarian reign of the EU finishes later this year.

14 minutes ago, vogie said:

I'm sure when the President of the European Union may consider the position when his totalitarian reign of the EU finishes later this year.

Totalitarian ???????????????? only in you head,your paranoid ????

Now now old boy..chill..relax and enjoy ur dreams of spending plenty euros in the sadly high unemployment areas of ur beloved eu..eg..spain..portugal etc etc.
I'm sure your brussels masters can fix all the problems in mainland europe for you.
Especially when the UK atm is switched off at the brussels end[emoji6]

Totalitarian [emoji16][emoji23][emoji1787][emoji23] only in you head,your paranoid [emoji2959]

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4 hours ago, Thairealist said:

On 3/31/2019 at 8:42 AM, Basil B said:

Unfortunately I can not believe many of these Hard Brexiteers on this forum actually reside in the UK.  

 

 Again you are wrong. From reading these Brexit threads, many do.

Likewise I notice many, probably the majority of those who support the U.K. remaining in the E.U. do seem to be non British. Why is this?

I made a statement questioning if many of these Hard Brexiteers on this forum actually reside in the UK.  

 

You said categorically that I was wrong, I now ask you to provide facts to back up your statement...

21 minutes ago, bomber said:

Totalitarian ???????????????? only in you head,your paranoid ????

Why have you brought my paranoid into this?

On 3/31/2019 at 7:32 AM, Laughing Gravy said:

We already voted leave. How about vote on No Deal or Mays deal. Yes frequent elections but that is after the government have been in power,. The referendum result hasn't even been enacted upon. You do not have another election/vote because you didn't like the result.

Agreed well put!

52 minutes ago, Basil B said:

I made a statement questioning if many of these Hard Brexiteers on this forum actually reside in the UK.  

 

You said categorically that I was wrong, I now ask you to provide facts to back up your statement...

I sort of live in the UK or better to say I pay UK taxes?

 

3 hours ago, Grouse said:

The Tory parts will split for sure

 

If one retains the name Conservative Party (the unionist bit is redundant obviously) what will the breakaway right wing nutters be called? UKIP? National Socialist Party?

Not sure it will split as they will all stick like glue to save their own jobs!

 

UKIP now effectively the EDL, and Germany has the well supported and democratically elected, AFD Freedom fighters, Mog congratulates them in a tweet yesterday so who knows?

 

labour has split between the communist left and Blairite middle?

 

Farage has a new party so the next elections could be interesting.

 

13 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

The public was fooled and believed dumb populism. Fortunately now public knows what to expect. 

So matters have changed and a new voting is necessary. Doesn't mean it has to be now but maybe in the future. In a couple of years. 

That is twice I have asked you. If you don't reply you will not get a response back and will be ignored.

12 hours ago, Grouse said:

The backstop was May's idea. The EU would accept another solution I'm sure. 

The only other solution that the EU will accept is that the UK remains in the Customs Union and the Single Market, which everyone knows, isn't Brexit at all.

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

The only other solution that the EU will accept is that the UK remains in the Customs Union and the Single Market, which everyone knows, isn't Brexit at all.

With the current impasse I think a general election must be called.

43 minutes ago, Grouse said:

With the current impasse I think a general election must be called.

I would have to agree with you on this point but I don't hold much faith that one will be, sadly.