10 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

All very interesting, but going off on tangents doesn't alter the fact that FOM applies to the UK whilst in the EU, and nothing can change that.  

 

The point was that we chose it to apply to us, but fair enough, now it does apply and the EU is not budging on that, it is too late, I just think it prudent to be aware of history and the real reasons we are where we are with this, its not like you ever hear a Brexiter who knows this, they all seem to imagine that we were forced in and that the EU will never compromise, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

Some off topic acrimonious posts have been removed.

 

If there is a problem with some posts please use the report button and let us take care of them, but do not hijack the topic talking about it.

13 hours ago, bomber said:

anyone who squanders all or most of their money on drink,drugs,gambling,cigs is a loser end of story regardless of whether they have lots of money or very little,nothing to do with being bitter one iota 

Life experience, the best education. 

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Life experience, the best education. 

Absolutely. You learn your own lessons in life. Up to you whether or not you take heed of them.

On 4/29/2019 at 3:40 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

That you choose to make such comments on an expat orientated forum reveals a great deal about the depth to which you’ve thought this out.

 So you've decided that TV is an 'expat orientated forum' have you?

 

I'm not an expat and many travelers and holiday makers such as myself log in to Thai Visa for information and advice when they wish to visit the LOS.

On 4/29/2019 at 3:45 PM, Spidey said:

Governments don't always act in your best interests either, which is why the EU is a nessesity to keep them in line. You can thank the EU for Health and Safety legislation and workers rights.

Oh I see what you mean.

 

You mean the rights of British workers to have Eastern European scab labour turn up in the UK and take our jobs.

 

Silly me, I'd completely forgotten about that. God bless the EU.

On 4/29/2019 at 3:43 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

Which is why the Tories have been promising a post Brexit deregulation.

 

Please don’t tell me you believe that will benefit ordinary working people.

I won't be voting Tory, will you?

On 4/29/2019 at 3:50 PM, Spidey said:

Yes you've said that before, you were wrong then and you're wrong now. I am a qualified Health and Safety representative and former TU representative. I know the facts, you don't.

 

What have you and your trade union wallahs done to stop Eastern European scabs from being allowed to nick our jobs. Tell us some facts you know about this disgraceful betrayal of British workers

 

Keit Hardie never stood for it yet you and your chums in today's Labour Party do if not actively encourage it by your silence. Where's your loyalty to your fellow working men, you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

 

The last union I was in blatantly recruited members in Poland when they were preparing to leave for England.

7 hours ago, yogi100 said:

 

What have you and your trade union wallahs done to stop Eastern European scabs from being allowed to nick our jobs. Tell us some facts you know about this disgraceful betrayal of British workers

 

Keit Hardie never stood for it yet you and your chums in today's Labour Party do if not actively encourage it by your silence. Where's your loyalty to your fellow working men, you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

 

The last union I was in blatantly recruited members in Poland when they were preparing to leave for England.

That union was the GMB. Their quarterly leaflet described this overseas recruitment as being in the 'interests of international workers' solidarity' or some such claptrap.

 

What the circular actually referred to was the basic and unavoidable fact that the more members a union has the more contributions are flowing into its coffers.

 

And when I consulted them on the matter over the phone the over paid top dog was too busy to speak with me although the male receptionist on the phone shared my indignation.

 

I stopped my membership there and then, quit paying the fees and lost all faith in trade unions from that day on.

 

I'd only just joined this joke of a 'union' because of the threat of overseas workers threatening our jobs under what was supposed to be a Labour government. The political party who traditionally claimed to fight in the corner of British working people.

 

Your precious Blair was PM at the time with Gordon Brown as his right hand man.

On 4/29/2019 at 7:50 PM, bomber said:

as your brexiteer mate stated i was miserable i merely stated a little piece of my circumstances,i never claimed to be rich and didnt state a figure,i merely used the term "ample" if it offended you i couldnt give a tooosss,work gets people on in life regrettably on here there are several people feeling sorry for themselves,yet i bet they have always found money for drink,cigs,gambling,drugs and sending to the working girl in thailand,losers is what i like to call them ????

 

What people on here have given the impression that "there are several people feeling sorry for themselves"yet "have always found money for drink,cigs,gambling,drugs and sending to the working girl in thailand". In what way have they alluded to being in such a predicament.

 

I've not noticed any contributors giving any such impression. And neither have you.

Edited May 1, 20197 yr by yogi100

On 4/30/2019 at 7:48 AM, Kieran00001 said:

 

The point was that we chose it to apply to us, but fair enough, now it does apply and the EU is not budging on that, it is too late, I just think it prudent to be aware of history and the real reasons we are where we are with this, its not like you ever hear a Brexiter who knows this, they all seem to imagine that we were forced in and that the EU will never compromise, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

The tipping point that made 17.4 million people vote to quit the EU was Merkel and her cohorts in 2015 inviting hordes of aliens on to the continent and telling all EU member nations in a dictatorial manner that we'd all be required to take in our share of 'em.

 

No compromise was involved nor even suggested. Had there been it's possible that there would not have been a Brexit.

1 hour ago, yogi100 said:

The tipping point that made 17.4 million people vote to quit the EU was Merkel and her cohorts in 2015 inviting hordes of aliens on to the continent and telling all EU member nations in a dictatorial manner that we'd all be required to take in our share of 'em.

 

No compromise was involved nor even suggested. Had there been it's possible that there would not have been a Brexit.

 

That was actually the Geneva Convention that invited them and stipulated that we must take them, and as for no compromise, how exactly was it that we managed to negotiate to take so few of them then?

1 hour ago, yogi100 said:

The tipping point that made 17.4 million people vote to quit the EU was Merkel and her cohorts in 2015 inviting hordes of aliens on to the continent and telling all EU member nations in a dictatorial manner that we'd all be required to take in our share of 'em.

 

No compromise was involved nor even suggested. Had there been it's possible that there would not have been a Brexit.

Britain refused to take any of them. It wasn't compulsory. Britain stated that it would take refugees directly from the camps in Syria and Turkey, which it intended to do anyway. None of Merkel's refugees came to the UK.

17 minutes ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

That was actually the Geneva Convention that invited them and stipulated that we must take them, and as for no compromise, how exactly was it that we managed to negotiate to take so few of them then?

Why did Merkel say this then?

https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-defends-open-border-migration-refugee-policy-germany/

 

The 1951 Geneva Convention offers sanctuary to refugees. A big problem is that large numbers of economic migrants and others have been happy to have been classed as "refugees", to assist their movement and to reach their European goal. Genuine refugees fleeing in instant panic and fear for their lives generally do not have thousands of dollars available to pay people smugglers and most groups of genuine refugees are are not normally comprised of an absurdly high proportion of young men. 

1 hour ago, Kieran00001 said:

hordes of aliens

More Brexiteer cliches.

58 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Why did Merkel say this then?

https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-defends-open-border-migration-refugee-policy-germany/

 

The 1951 Geneva Convention offers sanctuary to refugees. A big problem is that large numbers of economic migrants and others have been happy to have been classed as "refugees", to assist their movement and to reach their European goal. Genuine refugees fleeing in instant panic and fear for their lives generally do not have thousands of dollars available to pay people smugglers and most groups of genuine refugees are are not normally comprised of an absurdly high proportion of young men. 

Such profoundly ignorant assumptions; what makes Brexiteers believe this rubbish?.........You clearly have no idea what these societies were like before wars broke out.....many were educated middle class people, others were loaned money and blackmailed....others just simply walked the whole way......

Edited May 1, 20197 yr by wilcopops

3 hours ago, yogi100 said:

 

What people on here have given the impression that "there are several people feeling sorry for themselves"yet "have always found money for drink,cigs,gambling,drugs and sending to the working girl in thailand". In what way have they alluded to being in such a predicament.

 

I've not noticed any contributors giving any such impression. And neither have you.

There have been several not usually from regular posters though and lets not forget the regular brexiteer poster who blamed the EU for his business failing.

1 hour ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

That was actually the Geneva Convention that invited them and stipulated that we must take them, and as for no compromise, how exactly was it that we managed to negotiate to take so few of them then?

'So few of them'

 

Have you been to London lately, it's flooded with 'em. So are many other towns and cities in Britain. Why do you think so many mosques have appeared in the UK in recent years. The government are not going to go public with it but anyone with eyes in his head can see what's going on.

 

There are mini mosques and Islamic centres springing up all over the place.

1 hour ago, Spidey said:

Britain refused to take any of them. It wasn't compulsory. Britain stated that it would take refugees directly from the camps in Syria and Turkey, which it intended to do anyway. None of Merkel's refugees came to the UK.

You don't know what secret arrangements Theresa May has made with the EU regarding these people. She's hardly gonna go public with it. She be even more unpopular than she is now if she did.

 

A few years back the government confessed to not even knowing how many people inhabit the British Isles. About the same time retailers announced they sell enough food to feed a nation of 80 million people.

34 minutes ago, wilcopops said:

Such profoundly ignorant assumptions; what makes Brexiteers believe this rubbish?.........You clearly have no idea what these societies were like before wars broke out.....many were educated middle class people, others were loaned money and blackmailed....others just simply walked the whole way......

This people smuggling of economic migrants has been going on for years and well before the latest wars in Libya and Syria etc. I have witnessed it personally, so no ignorance, assumptions nor rubbish and it is not associated with Brexit. It was accelerated to take advantage of the genuine exodus of people truly in trouble who were fleeing Syria. 

Britain refused to take any of them. It wasn't compulsory. Britain stated that it would take refugees directly from the camps in Syria and Turkey, which it intended to do anyway. None of Merkel's refugees came to the UK.

Thankfully..as we Brits were spared the Xmas market slaughter.

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4 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Thankfully..as we Brits were spared the Xmas market slaughter.

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Iam sure our true master uncle sam will soon start arming and supplying the opposition to assad in the near future to train a new batch of jihadi's to come to europe and cause havoc,a european army wouldnt dream of it.i think you seem to have forgotten an incident in manchester a while back.

13 minutes ago, nauseus said:

This people smuggling of economic migrants has been going on for years and well before the latest wars in Libya and Syria etc. I have witnessed it personally, so no ignorance, assumptions nor rubbish and it is not associated with Brexit. It was accelerated to take advantage of the genuine exodus of people truly in trouble who were fleeing Syria. 

Wars caused by our true masters and helped at UK tax payers expense.

3 minutes ago, bomber said:

Wars caused by our true masters and helped at UK tax payers expense.

I should have expected that. Point missed as usual. Congratulations! Even without western interference there would have been war and exodus anyway but that's OK as long as it's not our fault, right?

Edited May 1, 20197 yr by nauseus

10 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I should have expected that. Point missed as usual. Congratulations! Even without western interference there would have been war and exodus anyway but that's OK as long as it's not our fault, right?

I think you mean US influence,your true masters were hugely to blame for them,a few minors disturbences there may well of been but not years of war and 100,000s dead.

1 hour ago, wilcopops said:

Such profoundly ignorant assumptions; what makes Brexiteers believe this rubbish?.........You clearly have no idea what these societies were like before wars broke out.....many were educated middle class people, others were loaned money and blackmailed....others just simply walked the whole way......

Why didn't they go South? Saudi is nice and the Gulf States have loads a money for them.

Iam sure our true master uncle sam will soon start arming and supplying the opposition to assad in the near future to train a new batch of jihadi's to come to europe and cause havoc,a european army wouldnt dream of it.i think you seem to have forgotten an incident in manchester a while back.

I most certainly have not forgot about the horrible islamic nutter or his utterly vile deed which destroyed many young kids and indeed their families and friends.
Re your rather off the mark comment re USA troops and their Government..The Donald has withdrawn USA troops from that location..only leaving enough USA military to PROTECT the Kurdish forces from the Turks.

Now..your point was???

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2 hours ago, Spidey said:

Britain refused to take any of them. It wasn't compulsory. Britain stated that it would take refugees directly from the camps in Syria and Turkey, which it intended to do anyway. None of Merkel's refugees came to the UK.

Don't you believe it. Nobody knows how many of them traveled on to UK as illegals.

Nobody knows how many will simply wait until there is an easy passage to UK made for them. Best to get out of the EU before that time. 

11 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

 

 

I most certainly have not forgot about the horrible islamic nutter or his utterly vile deed which destroyed many young kids and indeed their families and friends.
Re your rather off the mark comment re USA troops and their Government..The Donald has withdrawn USA troops from that location..only leaving enough USA military to PROTECT the Kurdish forces from the Turks.

Now..your point was???

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After 10 years of so of causing havoc he has called it a day for now...ian sure it wont be for very long.

10 minutes ago, bomber said:

After 10 years of so of causing havoc he has called it a day for now...ian sure it wont be for very long.

He's only been C in C for 2 years. I can't remember who was there before that. Hmmm?