Italian expat involved in Phuket boat collision that leaves local fisherman, 74, with serious injuries

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Italian expat involved in Phuket boat collision that leaves local fisherman, 74, with serious injuries

By Eakkapop Thongtub

 

The 74-year-old man, San Mali, from Rawai, was rushed ashore this morning (Apr 14). Photo: Eakkapoop Thongtub

 

PHUKET: An Italian expat is now under investigation after injuries from a boat collision with a longtail boat off Koh Bon, off Phuket’s southeast coast, this morning (Apr 14) left a 74-year-old fishermen in serious condition.

 

The Phuket Tourist Rescue Centre was notified of the incident at 10:30am.

 

The fisherman, 74-year-old Rawai resident San Mali, was brought to Chalong Pier, where an ambulance was waiting to rush him to the Accident & Emergency Centre at the yet-to-open Chalong Hospital.

 

Source: https://www.thephuketnews.com/italian-expat-involved-in-phuket-boat-collision-that-leaves-local-fisherman-74-with-serious-injuries-71101.php#iskssl7TsMvod9Cz.97

 

 

-- © Copyright Phuket News 2019-04-15

[Valentine]

I hope is OK but I often wonder why the "yet to be open" Chalong hospital is not open as the building has been completed for a long time now

[Old Croc]

https://www.thephuketnews.com/chalong-hospital-set-to-open-next-april-69136.php

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Old Croc said:

https://www.thephuketnews.com/chalong-hospital-set-to-open-next-april-69136.php

Thanks, that means in 2 weeks it should be open.

[Joe Mcseismic]

It doesn't say what kind of boat the Italian had.

If it was a yacht under sail, then it was the long-tail's fault.

Did it happen at night? If so, did each boat have navigation lights?

[Old Croc]

Happened in daylight

 

 

[Joe Mcseismic]

A collision in broad daylight?

Both are to blame.

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Report filed against Italian expat following Phuket boat collision

By Kritsada Mueanhawong

 

 

Relatives of a seriously injured fisherman have filed a report with the Chalong Police relating to an Italian expat who was allegedly helming a boat that collided with a long-tail fishing boat yesterday off Rawai, Phuket.

 

Emergency responders were notified of the accident near Koh Bon off Rawai at 10am yesterday.

 

The injured fisherman is 45 year old San Malee, who sustained injuries during the incident and was taken to Chalong Hospital and later transferred to Vachira Phuket Hospital.

 

Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/report-filed-against-italian-expat-following-phuket-boat-collision

 

-- © Copyright The Thaiger 2019-04-15

[Joe Mcseismic]

So......San Mali goes from being 74 years old to 45 years old. Great reporting Thaiger!

[Tropposurfer]

If these are the boats in question then it depends who was on what side of the other boat, as to who gives way.

i.e.

a boat approaching from your starboard side has right of way.

if under sail The rules are universal and still apply.

if a boat is not underway either by sail or motor then the rule still applies, but given the boat underway/ under some form of power other than drift has inherently more control it is usually assumed they are to take steps to avoid the drifting vessel.

like the road all driver/steerers of boats must take all precaution to avoid collision.

if adrift then this vessel skipper should be signalling to other vessels before possible collision takes place I.e. drifting into moored vessels, wVe like hell n yell or use radio too.

excessive speed, of course, when  contradicting local or national waterway laws can affect application of such starboard and port side approach rules e.g. a jet ski loosing control and plowing into a boat behaving in a sensible manner and on a sensible course would get busted for it.

so says an old salty sea dog.

[stevenl]

12 minutes ago, Joe Mcseismic said:

So......San Mali goes from being 74 years old to 45 years old. Great reporting Thaiger!

First report with age 74 was from Phuket News.

[Joe Mcseismic]

My apologies Thaiger (if you are right).

[Joe Mcseismic]

18 minutes ago, Tropposurfer said:

If these are the boats in question then it depends who was on what side of the other boat, as to who gives way.

i.e.

a boat approaching from your starboard side has right of way.

if under sail The rules are universal and still apply.

if a boat is not underway either by sail or motor then the rule still applies, but given the boat underway/ under some form of power other than drift has inherently more control it is usually assumed they are to take steps to avoid the drifting vessel.

like the road all driver/steerers of boats must take all precaution to avoid collision.

if adrift then this vessel skipper should be signalling to other vessels before possible collision takes place I.e. drifting into moored vessels, wVe like hell n yell or use radio too.

excessive speed, of course, when  contradicting local or national waterway laws can affect application of such starboard and port side approach rules e.g. a jet ski loosing control and plowing into a boat behaving in a sensible manner and on a sensible course would get busted for it.

so says an old salty sea dog.

All true, but, if a collision looks likely, it is incumbent on all parties to take action to avoid the collision.

Another salty sea-dog.

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, Joe Mcseismic said:

My apologies Thaiger (if you are right).

I am right that the first report was from Phuket News. His age though, could be 74, 45 and I would not be surprised if it was something else as well.

 

I have noticed that Phuket News is faster with reporting the news, but doesn't always get the details correct.

Edited April 15, 2019 by stevenl

[Joe Mcseismic]

49 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I have noticed that Phuket News is faster with reporting the news, but doesn't always get the details correct.

Just like the old Phuketwan. Such a rush to be first, that they more often than not, got the details wrong.

[animalmagic]

Tropposurfer and Joe McSeismic, your application of salty sea dog rules appear correct.  It also appears the long tail boat was struck on the port (left) side near the rudder; which would suggest the fisherman had right of way.

However, unless the engine was knocked off in the collision, the long tailed boat was powered by oars and there is no way he could have caused a collision in the first place.  Either the speedboat didn't see him (it looks like a clear day), wasn't watching; or was trying to pass close astern to bounce him around.

[animalmagic]

1 hour ago, Joe Mcseismic said:

A collision in broad daylight?

Both are to blame.

The long tailed was powered by two oars!  The speedboat had both speed and maneuverability to avoid a collision with it.  Powered boat's fault every time.

[user343434]

1 hour ago, Tropposurfer said:

If these are the boats in question then it depends who was on what side of the other boat, as to who gives way.

i.e.

a boat approaching from your starboard side has right of way.

if under sail The rules are universal and still apply.

if a boat is not underway either by sail or motor then the rule still applies, but given the boat underway/ under some form of power other than drift has inherently more control it is usually assumed they are to take steps to avoid the drifting vessel.

like the road all driver/steerers of boats must take all precaution to avoid collision.

if adrift then this vessel skipper should be signalling to other vessels before possible collision takes place I.e. drifting into moored vessels, wVe like hell n yell or use radio too.

excessive speed, of course, when  contradicting local or national waterway laws can affect application of such starboard and port side approach rules e.g. a jet ski loosing control and plowing into a boat behaving in a sensible manner and on a sensible course would get busted for it.

so says an old salty sea dog.

The damages on the Stb side of the Longboat tells where the Italian came from.

According to the international Maritime Law the Italo was right but blind as a mole.. 

Even not seen, the Longboat are so loud with their one piston engine that you hear them for miles. 

 

[stevenl]

16 minutes ago, See Will said:

The damages on the Stb side of the Longboat tells where the Italian came from.

According to the international Maritime Law the Italo was right but blind as a mole.. 

Even not seen, the Longboat are so loud with their one piston engine that you hear them for miles. 

 

As pointed out earlier, looks like the longtail boat had no tail but was powered by oars.

[balo]

The old man shuld have stayed home in Italy, clearly don't know much about boats. 

[fantom]

1 hour ago, See Will said:

The damages on the Stb side of the Longboat tells where the Italian came from.

According to the international Maritime Law the Italo was right but blind as a mole..  

Even not seen, the Longboat are so loud with their one piston engine that you hear them for miles. 

 

I think that if you look at the picture it was, as previously described, in fact the port side.

[Ulic]

4 hours ago, Tropposurfer said:

If these are the boats in question then it depends who was on what side of the other boat, as to who gives way.

i.e.

a boat approaching from your starboard side has right of way.

if under sail The rules are universal and still apply.

if a boat is not underway either by sail or motor then the rule still applies, but given the boat underway/ under some form of power other than drift has inherently more control it is usually assumed they are to take steps to avoid the drifting vessel.

like the road all driver/steerers of boats must take all precaution to avoid collision.

if adrift then this vessel skipper should be signalling to other vessels before possible collision takes place I.e. drifting into moored vessels, wVe like hell n yell or use radio too.

excessive speed, of course, when  contradicting local or national waterway laws can affect application of such starboard and port side approach rules e.g. a jet ski loosing control and plowing into a boat behaving in a sensible manner and on a sensible course would get busted for it.

so says an old salty sea dog.

Looks like the fishing boat was a stand-up rowboat. The vessel under power should have avoided him in my opinion.

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, balo said:

The old man shuld have stayed home in Italy, clearly don't know much about boats. 

If the Italian guy is old, half the Thai visa population is ancient.

[fruitman]

13 hours ago, Joe Mcseismic said:

Did it happen at night? If so, did each boat have navigation lights?

I like to inspect the boats on the chao praya river in BKK from the terrace of restaurants and noticed that maybe half of the boats have lights.....the small boats have nothing at all.....

[Richard Kuklinski]

this is how quick a peaceful retirement in Thailand can change.