Mueller finds no conspiracy, but extensive Trump-Russia contacts

[elmrfudd]

1 hour ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Hey, listen man. I've voted in every presidential election since I was 18. Not once did a candidate I voted for get elected.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump's only slightly worse as president than several of the presidents we've had in recent decades. I object to him as a person. He's a contemptible human being. A piece of shit who intentionally sets out to hurt others. A narcissist and possibly a sociopath. No one's going to grieve if he died tomorrow and many will celebrate his demise. Not because of his politics, because he has none, but because he's a despicable person and the world's better off whenever a despicable person leaves it.

 

 

 

 

sounds very emotional, but hey what ever works for your reinforcement of your opinion

[Nyezhov]

10 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

When this election comes around be prepared for sound bites of the rabid left telling all the damning evidence Mueller had before report became public. "Nothing short of Treasonous" was uttered over and over again. 

Fast cuts: pPencil neck and his cohorts shouting treason, one right after the other going faster and faster until the cut ends on the video of that goofball chick screaming after election,screaming screaming, fade to Black with soft music, the words of muellar linger on the screen, no collusion....so it's treasontreasontreasontreason, arrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg....no collusion.

 

I am available for political commercials. If Bernie gets nominated we can flash pics of his Moscow trips to glory in communism interspersed with pics of firing squads, starving babies, the words finally up on the screen...Socialism.....ruining lives since 1917....with a cut to Bernie waving a hammer and sickle..?

[Nyezhov]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

 

I recently read a very funny comment on Slate

 

I read a funny comment in MAD Magazine but wouldn't cite that as a source in a conversation among thinking people. Slate is no different, except maybe more expensive and pretentious.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

 

One doesn't need to have a "pseudo intellectual superiority complex" to despise Trump. After all, he is a despicable human being. I think many of his supporters would even admit that. The problem isn't with the Trumps and Clintons of this world, they are always standing by to exploit the gullible. The problem is with the people. They've stopped caring about each other.

They've stopped caring about each other.

Agree. people too busy talking to imaginary friends or bullying people on the internet to care about other people. Also big companies removing humans from businesses. It's possible to go to town to do shopping and not talk to another human being. Even supermarkets are going self service, along with banks and petrol stations.

[Thainesss]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Yeah, liberals banning anything that they don't want people to read.

 

Its funny isnt it? They do it, they encourage it, they shout people down, stop speeches, shadowban, outright ban, cry about 'hate speech' and everything else under the sun, yet never admit it because its a shit, cowardly thing to do and they know it, hence the mocking and deflection. 

[Nyezhov]

3 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They've stopped caring about each other.

Agree. people too busy talking to imaginary friends or bullying people on the internet to care about other people. Also big companies removing humans from businesses. It's possible to go to town to do shopping and not talk to another human being. Even supermarkets are going self service, along with banks and petrol stations.

Naw Dude, the bottom line is that Trump is what he is. Good at some things, bad at others. He's just a sleazy obnoxious NY businessman with the blue collar schtick no better, no worse than all the other rich dudes we have seen through the ages. History will judge him, not the screeching of his haters which echo the screeching of haters throughout political history anyway. Hell my genteel Aunt Mary, born 1900, educated and totally liberal (in the style of the 30s, which meant reading Vorwarts) had this insane irrational hatred of FDR, to the point of loosing her temper...we would get buzzed and play hey let's get Aunt Marry worked up about the WPA or Sidney Hillman. But I digress

 

Anyway, the Democrats created Trump and Trump supporters, not society qua society. And as long as the Dems move leftward, and treat their opponents as intellectual and moral untermensch, Trumpism will thrive.

 

Whether that is good or bad depends on whether you hate or think.

 

[Gecko123]

The Mueller report is superbly written and a real page turner. It appears to have been written with the American people in mind. Every effort appears to have been made to make it as readable as possible in order to help people understand what happened. The sections detailing the full extent of Russian interference in the 2016 election should alarm all Americans no matter what side of the political aisle they sit on. I urge everyone to read the report for themselves.

[elmrfudd]

1 minute ago, Gecko123 said:

The Mueller report is superbly written and a real page turner. It appears to have been written with the American people in mind. Every effort appears to have been made to make it as readable as possible in order to help people understand what happened. The sections detailing the full extent of Russian interference in the 2016 election should alarm all Americans no matter what side of the political aisle they sit on. I urge everyone to read the report for themselves.

what is left out of the report is much more telling as to the motive of the special counsel and the people who staged its creation.

 

No mention of fusion GPS, no mention of the DNC/Hillary campaign paying for the dossier or the fact that it was not verified in any way

that would justify the level of spying and entrapment attempts.

 

They keep bringing up obstruction of a sham investigation as if there was a crime committed. not one consideration as to the validity of

the investigation and the biased individuals behind it.

 

 

[cbtstorm]

25 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

The Mueller report is superbly written and a real page turner. It appears to have been written with the American people in mind. Every effort appears to have been made to make it as readable as possible in order to help people understand what happened. The sections detailing the full extent of Russian interference in the 2016 election should alarm all Americans no matter what side of the political aisle they sit on. I urge everyone to read the report for themselves.

meh, this is hype, propaganda to distract from the fact that UK and Aus had more of role in us midterm  elecrionmeddling by way of the hoax russia collusion story.

Besides GoogleI ceo says two "Russian" firms spent 4700$ 0n their platform before and after the elections

Thats some serious meddling for cheaps lol 

Russia meddling nonsense,just holds the fake storey together. here isMaxine Waters thinks Kremlin/ Putin himself came up with the "crooked hillary" moniker.

 

what a farce????

 

And besides if there was any meddling its on Obama who stood by as "no collusion Trump" was just a candidate. 

 

[Gecko123]

I think Russian trolls may be active on TVF. What do you think?

[Becker]

10 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

I think Russian trolls may be active on TVF. What do you think?

That's pretty obvious.

[metisdead]

Inflammatory posts, insulting posts and the replies have been removed. 

[cbtstorm]

What is not mentioned in the(maybe appropriately) Mueller report is what was Obamas role in the surveillance of Trump campaign.

Lisa Pages texts (quickly redacted) indicate Obama requested breifings.

"the Whitehouse is running this"

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/white-house-is-running-this-mystery-has-top-republican-squeezing-doj-to-unredact-strzok-page-texts

[Cryingdick]

23 minutes ago, cbtstorm said:

What is not mentioned in the(maybe appropriately) Mueller report is what was Obamas role in the surveillance of Trump campaign.

Lisa Pages texts (quickly redacted) indicate Obama requested breifings.

"the Whitehouse is running this"

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/white-house-is-running-this-mystery-has-top-republican-squeezing-doj-to-unredact-strzok-page-texts

 

I am not quite ready to get my Barr batman symbol avatar out yet. That being said there are going to be a few smug people that will go pretty quiet soon.

[Tug]

The trump supporters sound more desperate every day the muller report is a very very damming document showing the depths this immoral administration is willing to go its always darkest before the dawn

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, Tug said:

The trump supporters sound more desperate every day the muller report is a very very damming document showing the depths this immoral administration is willing to go its always darkest before the dawn

 

Way to try and spin it. lol Wait until the indictments begin to pile up.

[cbtstorm]

51 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I am not quite ready to get my Barr batman symbol avatar out yet. That being said there are going to be a few smug people that will go pretty quiet soon.

I wonder who will be first.  I guess prosecutors can keep grand jury indictments sealed for some time. 

[Nyezhov]

2 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

I think Russian trolls may be active on TVF. What do you think?

Actually, if you look at the entire thing as being disinformatsiya started by the Russians, then those who are contiuning the farce are aiding and abetting the Ivans.

[Nyezhov]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

The trump supporters sound more desperate every day the muller report is a very very damming document showing the depths this immoral administration is willing to go its always darkest before the dawn

Dude its been blacker than my soul since he was elected and started throwing Jews, Gays and Muslims into Camps, making women into second class baby bearing Handmaids, forcing screaming innocent girls to have back alley abortions, personally changing the climate and laughing at poor folks drowning in Vanatutu, encouraging school shootings, committing treason, raising hotel room prices and selling them in blocks to the Saudis to increase his either vast or vastly overstated fortune, plus his stupidity in that area, I mean, hotel rooms, really......if you are going to profit from the Presidency and gov't service be like the Clintons and do it big....... and lets not forget his rascism, xenophobia and white nationalism........plus that Jared dude with the criminal Daddy and his, um...ancestry. 

 

Maybe things will get better in 2024.......

 

Oh and the above is meant as Ironic sarcasm

[lannarebirth]

9 hours ago, elmrfudd said:

sounds very emotional, but hey what ever works for your reinforcement of your opinion

Not emotional at all. I couldn't be less attached to the outcome of this presidency. My take on Trump is about as objectve as you'll find.

[riclag]

BuzzFeed updates story after Mueller report reveals Trump didn’t order Cohen to lie

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/buzzfeed-updates-story-after-mueller-report-reveals-trump-didnt-order-cohen-to-lie

 

one other

 

 NYT: “[T]he release on Thursday of the report by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, underscored what had grown clearer for months — that while many Trump aides had welcomed contacts with the Russians, some of the most sensational claims in the dossier appeared to be false, and others were impossible to prove. Mr. Mueller’s report contained over a dozen passing references to the document’s claims but no overall assessment of why so much did not check out,” the Times reported.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/46240/nyt-finally-acknowledges-steele-dossier-might-not-ashe-schow

 

One thing for sure the next person that isn't connected to the swamp better not tweet , should stay away from escalators and  not piss off the liberal media!

  As far as the  so called top  career professional in the DOJ , FBI and other agencies ,judgment day is coming.Some Intel person was found by the IG to accepting bribes or gifts from media sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-fbi-ethics/senior-fbi-official-improperly-accepted-gifts-from-reporter-report-idUSKCN1MQ2CP

[cbtstorm]

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

BuzzFeed updates story after Mueller report reveals Trump didn’t order Cohen to lie

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/buzzfeed-updates-story-after-mueller-report-reveals-trump-didnt-order-cohen-to-lie

 

one other

 

“[T]he release on Thursday of the report by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, underscored what had grown clearer for months — that while many Trump aides had welcomed contacts with the Russians, some of the most sensational claims in the dossier appeared to be false, and others were impossible to prove. Mr. Mueller’s report contained over a dozen passing references to the document’s claims but no overall assessment of why so much did not check out,” the Times reported.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/46240/nyt-finally-acknowledges-steele-dossier-might-not-ashe-schow

 

One thing for sure the next person that isn't connected to the swamp better not tweet , should stay away from escalators and  not piss off the liberal media!   As far as the  so called top  career professional in the DOJ , FBI and other agencies ,judgment day is coming.

The Guardian hasnt said another word about Manafort/Assange meeting again.

Hit n run "journalists"

 

[riclag]

10 minutes ago, cbtstorm said:

The Guardian hasnt said another word about Manafort/Assange meeting again.

Hit n run "journalists"

 

Poking and prodding by the MSM , Dems  and the 6 ways to Sunday crew almost drove the guy to the brink ! I think that was there intention after they couldn't establish the Russian story

[riclag]

2 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Way to try and spin it. lol Wait until the indictments begin to pile up.

Rudy is so confident about the outcome of no collusion no obstruction, that he never needed to come out with his 50 page rebuttal 

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

Rudy is so confident about the outcome of no collusion no obstruction, that he never needed to come out with his 50 page rebuttal 

 

I think we are in agreement.

[Tug]

4 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Dude its been blacker than my soul since he was elected and started throwing Jews, Gays and Muslims into Camps, making women into second class baby bearing Handmaids, forcing screaming innocent girls to have back alley abortions, personally changing the climate and laughing at poor folks drowning in Vanatutu, encouraging school shootings, committing treason, raising hotel room prices and selling them in blocks to the Saudis to increase his either vast or vastly overstated fortune, plus his stupidity in that area, I mean, hotel rooms, really......if you are going to profit from the Presidency and gov't service be like the Clintons and do it big....... and lets not forget his rascism, xenophobia and white nationalism........plus that Jared dude with the criminal Daddy and his, um...ancestry. 

 

Maybe things will get better in 2024.......

 

Oh and the above is meant as Ironic sarcasm

Ha ha don’t think so donald has been exposed for what he is hopefully the dems just run on the issues that’s a rich feeding ground just littered with Donald’s failures don’t think we are a dictatorship yet so we will see yes!

[impulse]

Mueller finds no collusion...

Mueller doesn't find collusion...

Mueller finds no evidence of collusion...

 

Subtle, but significant differences.  The headline (like Barr's presentation) is misleading.

 

Once again, I'd remind people that, in 44 years of looking, they haven't found any prosecutable evidence that Jimmy Hoffa was murdered.  Doesn't mean he wasn't.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, Tug said:

The trump supporters sound more desperate every day the muller report is a very very damming document showing the depths this immoral administration is willing to go its always darkest before the dawn

We've had two years of the same thing being said a hundred different ways. I'm guessing, but there will probably be another hundred different versions till Trump wins the election, and then it'll start all over again.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

Mueller finds no collusion...

Mueller doesn't find collusion...

Mueller finds no evidence of collusion...

 

Subtle, but significant differences.  The headline (like Barr's presentation) is misleading.

 

Once again, I'd remind people that, in 44 years of looking, they haven't found any prosecutable evidence that Jimmy Hoffa was murdered.  Doesn't mean he wasn't.

 

LOL.

Trump was a terrible candidate, and everyone knew it. It's just that more people rejected HRC than Trump and he won.

I'd be extremely surprised if he hadn't done some "questionable" things in his life, as have we all.

It's irrelevant to point out the difference between no collusion and no evidence of collusion if nothing is going to eventuate because of it. He survives- the end.

[thaibeachlovers]

48 minutes ago, Tug said:

Ha ha don’t think so donald has been exposed for what he is hopefully the dems just run on the issues that’s a rich feeding ground just littered with Donald’s failures don’t think we are a dictatorship yet so we will see yes!

LOL. Till the Dems come up with some policies that are not bad Trump, bad Trump, bad Trump, they ain't going to win the election.

So far they've got nothing but Trump, Trump, Trump.