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Mueller report leaves Democrats in a quandary

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11 hours ago, Mac98 said:

It will be interesting to see if a Republican challenges Trump for the nomination. 

Bill Weld has already risen to the challenge. I haven't heard Trump coin a derogatory nickname for Mr Weld yet. Perhaps he's had his hands full with the revealing report having just been released.

 

"We'll see"

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  • Jingthing
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    Their president? 45 is only the president of hard core base. That's a big part of the problem. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

  • The Democratic party is toast.  They put all their eggs into the "get Trump" basket and lost.  It makes no difference who they run, it will be Trump in 2020.

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    Yes the 306 hardcore electoral college votes.

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29 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Remove California and New York from elections. A Republican wet dream!

I'm neither a republican or a democrat - I find both parties repugnant.  Both parties' politicians are in it for themselves. 

Just doing the math.

57 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Well if, and only if, one of the Democratic candidates did a mea culpa on behalf of the party, apologized to Trump and the nation, and threw their support into either a bipartisan commission or Special Prosecutor to investigate Sztrock, Ohr, Page, Brennan, Comey. Lynch et al, Id probably hold my nose at the genteel socialism and consider voting Democratic again...unless it was Bernie, then I would at least admire him as being honourable.

You clearly don't understand the obstruction of justice legal situation at all.

28 minutes ago, Curt1591 said:

I'm neither a republican or a democrat - I find both parties repugnant.  Both parties' politicians are in it for themselves. 

Just doing the math.

And then if you go ahead and subtract all the states of the former Confederacy, Clinton wins the popular vote again. 2 can play that cherry picking game.

14 hours ago, rgraham said:

Maybe they will do their job now instead of attacking their President.

Anyone who bothered to read even a LITTLE of the report would never make such an uninformed statement. Their job IS to investigate and the criminal evidence just in the UNREDACTED sections are enough to start impeachment.

14 hours ago, rgraham said:

Maybe they will do their job now instead of attacking their President.

And leave the president to set his own priorities.  Like golf.

 

 

12 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

And then if you go ahead and subtract all the states of the former Confederacy, Clinton wins the popular vote again. 2 can play that cherry picking game.

I cited 2 individual cities, in response to "hard core base". If 2 cities (2 out of over 35,000), alone, can swing the the count, I think that might be considered a "hard-core base". Thirteen out of 50 is a bit broader.





 

55 minutes ago, bendejo said:

And leave the president to set his own priorities.  Like golf.

 

 

Wouldn't that be better?

1 hour ago, lannarebirth said:
2 hours ago, bendejo said:

And leave the president to set his own priorities.  Like golf.

 

 

Wouldn't that be better?

Fore!

 

1 minute ago, bendejo said:

Fore!

 

 

That's what a decent person might say. I'm not so sure Trump would practice the proper decorum. I understnd he cheats; a lot.

21 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Their president? 45 is only the president of hard core base. That's a big part of the problem.

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Yeah! That and the over 300 Electoral College votes he received not to mention the 33 million++ votes he collected from all those Russian loving deplorables!!

6 hours ago, bristolboy said:

You clearly don't understand the obstruction of justice legal situation at all.

Talking about obstruction is not a crime, no matter who or what he ordered staff to do, if they didn't do what was ordered then there was no obstruction (I refer to statements made by Trey Gowdy on CNN and Fox), dispute that!

2 minutes ago, TPI said:

if they didn't do what was ordered then there was no obstruction

 

Not only that, but Trump, as president of the united states, has the power to fire Mueller himself - but didnt. 

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20 minutes ago, TPI said:

Talking about obstruction is not a crime, no matter who or what he ordered staff to do, if they didn't do what was ordered then there was no obstruction (I refer to statements made by Trey Gowdy on CNN and Fox), dispute that!

You need to go back to law school.

 

Talking about committing a crime is 'conspiracy to commit a crime'.

 

Conspiracy is in and of itself a very serious crime. 

 

Ask anyone who gets sent down for planning a murder, terrorism, bank heist or fraud. 

 

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Yes, it is true.

The democrats are in a real quandary.

There are grounds to impeach him many times over.

Further investigations will uncover many more grounds.

But still it's not an easy decision. 

I'm more convinced that they should go ahead and do it.

There are risks if they do it, but there are also risks if they don't.

We can't predict the future of that in any way from past history. Past history could support that is both a bad idea and a good one. So we don't know. We can't know. 

But what we can predict if the democrats do not proceed is that history will judge the democrats almost as harshly as the republican Quislings. In the democrats case, as spineless wusses. 

 

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So Is Impeachment Plausible, Necessary, or Stupid?

A semi-conclusive debate.

 

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/impeach-trump-mueller-report-maybe-hmm.html?via=homepage_taps_top

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