Britain's Conservatives in fourth place in EU election poll, Farage leads

[nauseus]

10 minutes ago, wilcopops said:

...and you believe that UK will somehow be immune from recession if it is outside the EU.... got news for you, it's still on planet earth and will be in a far worse position if it is outside the EU.

You really should read the articles you Google....they are so much more than headlines

That is not what he said. Someone else here needs the reading lesson. 

[aright]

7 minutes ago, nauseus said:

It is these Guardian non-stories that show the lack of understanding of history. They are false comparisons and are alarmist Project Fear attempts. My butterfly is a symbol of peace. Less of the negative waves..man. 

To be honest I preferred you when you were a caterpillar. ????

[nauseus]

5 minutes ago, aright said:

To be honest I preferred you when you were a caterpillar. ????

Thanks. I know what you mean. But I was younger then.

[AlexRich]

8 hours ago, nauseus said:

But the economic pain from no deal is not spread evenly over 27 countries; the impact on the German auto industry would be significant. 

 

The point seems to fly over dedicated Brexiteer heads ... the Germans care more about the single market than their UK trade. And if that were not true they'd be pressing to give the UK everything it wants ... and they are not. 

 

 

 

[aright]

29 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

 

The point seems to fly over dedicated Brexiteer heads ... the Germans care more about the single market than their UK trade. And if that were not true they'd be pressing to give the UK everything it wants ... and they are not. 

 

 

 

 

The point seems to fly over your head, we are currently negotiating a Withdrawal Agreement.

 

It is important to distinguish the WA, which deals with the process of ‘exiting’ the EU including past liabilities, from an agreement on the future relationship between the EU and the UK, which can take a number of forms, such as an association agreement, or a free trade agreement.

Germany and the EU are not in a position to deny or give us anything because Trade Agreements have not started yet. It is also important to note, because of their rules, new Trade Agreements will be negotiated with the EU not Germany. 

Any talk of what will happen regarding Germany's export of cars to the UK is pure speculation, for some masquerading as fact. 

 

 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, AlexRich said:

 

The point seems to fly over dedicated Brexiteer heads ... the Germans care more about the single market than their UK trade. And if that were not true they'd be pressing to give the UK everything it wants ... and they are not. 

 

 

 

The point was the distribution of economic impact. Not the single market.

[nontabury]

15 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Spot anything odd about this crowd, supposed to be representative of the general public. Look again, I can only see one face that appears to belong to someone under 50, most of them look well over 60. Hardly any women either - taking care of the house no doubt as is their proper role. I never tire of saying it,  Brexit is a sad old parochial white male fantasy, the country will recover from it like you recover from a bad dose of Delhi Belly. Sweetness and light to you all needless to say. 

 

  Apart from the fact that I personally know of many Brexit supporters in their 20’s there are plenty others:-

 

 

[geoffbezoz]

16 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Spot anything odd about this crowd, supposed to be representative of the general public. Look again, I can only see one face that appears to belong to someone under 50, most of them look well over 60. Hardly any women either - taking care of the house no doubt as is their proper role. I never tire of saying it,  Brexit is a sad old parochial white male fantasy, the country will recover from it like you recover from a bad dose of Delhi Belly. Sweetness and light to you all needless to say. 

Nigel.  A good post but please don't generalise that all of us over 60/70 etc are tarred with the same brush. Some of us appreciate what our Fathers achieved in Europe, and grew up with the consequent deprivations, and with the disasters of last century  they had the foresight and integrity to work together with other EU nations to ensure prosperity was better than warfare, Unfortunately there are many that can't quite take in this fact but would rather hark back to the "days of the empire".

 

Things move on and whilst I do not agree with Scottish independence I do think that this time the Scottish vote to remain in the EU  showed up the English (and I am one of them) for being archaic prats.  With one exception.

Never ever steal our Wembley turf again ????

Edited May 21, 2019 by geoffbezoz

[nontabury]

13 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Hard Brexiteer spinning tops.

Welcome back SW with your usual 4 words of rubbish.

 

 Hope you enjoyed your recent visit to the U.K. and congratulations on your video.

 

 

 

[Loiner]

3 hours ago, AlexRich said:

 

The point seems to fly over dedicated Brexiteer heads ... the Germans care more about the single market than their UK trade. And if that were not true they'd be pressing to give the UK everything it wants ... and they are not. 

Looks like it flew over some German heads too. Most countries citizens are more interested in themselves and business than the EU ideology. Certainly more than the Europhiles would have their faithful believe:

No deal better than uncertainty, says head of German industry

Dieter Kempf says two-month Brexit delay would be ‘bad for economy’

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/04/brexit-dieter-kempf-no-deal-better-than-uncertainty-says-head-of-german-industry

They're even prepared for a No Deal exit, which we want. Roll on some cooperation with the businesses and industrialists that matter, not the EU politicians.

[SheungWan]

8 hours ago, nauseus said:

It is these Guardian non-stories that show the lack of understanding of history. They are false comparisons and are alarmist Project Fear attempts. My butterfly is a symbol of peace. Less of the negative waves..man. 

"Less of the negative waves, man". In the movie they cut a deal.

[SheungWan]

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

Looks like it flew over some German heads too. Most countries citizens are more interested in themselves and business than the EU ideology. Certainly more than the Europhiles would have their faithful believe:

No deal better than uncertainty, says head of German industry

Dieter Kempf says two-month Brexit delay would be ‘bad for economy’

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/04/brexit-dieter-kempf-no-deal-better-than-uncertainty-says-head-of-german-industry

They're even prepared for a No Deal exit, which we want. Roll on some cooperation with the businesses and industrialists that matter, not the EU politicians.

Hard Brexiteer lemmings looking for encouragement.

[Loiner]

33 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Hard Brexiteer lemmings looking for encouragement.

Leavers looking for honesty, no more Remainer propaganda and lies. Your Project Fear didn't work the first time and won't now.

[sandrabbit]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/theresa-may-reveals-latest-bold-new-brexit-plan-153142656.html?.tsrc=bell-brknews

 

 

[SheungWan]

4 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Leavers looking for honesty, no more Remainer propaganda and lies. Your Project Fear didn't work the first time and won't now.

I see the forum Hard Brexiteer circus acts are hard at it.

[evadgib]

44 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Hard Brexiteer lemmings looking for encouragement.

 

[evadgib]

4 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

I see the forum Hard Brexiteer circus acts are hard at it.

We're not in your league:

 

[sandrabbit]

there have been two telling articles about Germany's conduct in the EU today, one from a Netherlands representative and one from a German economist but I can't find them at the mo - at least 10 hrs old. will keep searching.

[SheungWan]

5 minutes ago, evadgib said:

We're not in your league:

That would be Pat Condell the Angry Nutter.

[sandrabbit]

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-05-20/germany-is-too-big-to-put-budget-surpluses-first

 

it's not the article I was looking for (which was more detailed) but it gives the gist of it.

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 minute ago, sandrabbit said:

there have been two telling articles about Germany's conduct in the EU today, one from a Netherlands representative and one from a German economist but I can't find them at the mo - at least 10 hrs old. will keep searching.

Great job. Please keep us posted about your search. Could you do a live stream? 

[welovesundaysatspace]

15 minutes ago, evadgib said:

We're not in your league:

 

 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, SheungWan said:

"Less of the negative waves, man". In the movie they cut a deal.

Exactly. What we need.

[nontabury]

 

I think this sums up, just how far the U.K has drifted from Democracy.

interesting to see how many remainers,have an open mind,and are prepared to watch it.

 

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[aright]

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