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British PM May resigns, paving way for Brexit confrontation with EU


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20 hours ago, Thakkar said:

“Brexit means Brexit” means ????‍♀️????‍♀️

 

But Therexit clearly means June 7th...or does it??

Seen the several voting sessions in the House of Commons, even these cannot agree about that...

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Your parliamentary democracy was respected via the Referendum Act. The consequences of leaving are not known. We still haven't left. A deal is preferable but the last two years have shown that the EU is reluctant to offer anything reasonable, rather the opposite. 
 
Then vote accordingly in the referendum.

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19 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Only a hard-core right-wing rump in parliament and in the Conservative Party favour a no deal Brexit. It won't happen.

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You Brits never get someting organised before 30 Oct, so it is... on your own.  Do not forget a Schengen visa for when you want to cross the Calais Strait. 

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19 hours ago, bartender100 said:

If she had done what the majority of the country wanted and left on the 29th of March, as she said over a hundred times, with a WTO deal, she would still be in a job

How you know the majority wanted to leave on 29th of March = a no deal Brexit ? ? Maybe 40 %, but that's it. 

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15 hours ago, Jip99 said:

For example, Labour’s inability to take advantage of a lame duck government. 

This is the REAL problem in British politics: it is or "Us" or "the ennemy". 

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13 hours ago, AlexRich said:

No one campaigned for a no deal Brexit, that form of exit has no mandate. If that’s what a new leader wants to do then he or she has to demonstrate they have support for it ... by a second referendum ... remain or no deal.

Then be quick...

A 6-8 weeks for e new prime minister, and then organise a 2nd referendum.. all MUST be passed before 31 Oct, as for sure, many EU heads of government are NOT willing to give an extention again. And… the majority of British companies interested already are setting up their "pied a terre" in continental EU = British jobs gone.

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8 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Then be quick...

A 6-8 weeks for e new prime minister, and then organise a 2nd referendum.. all MUST be passed before 31 Oct, as for sure, many EU heads of government are NOT willing to give an extention again. And… the majority of British companies interested already are setting up their "pied a terre" in continental EU = British jobs gone.

They would extend for a GE or a second referendum ... even Macron. But they won't bend on the withdrawal agreement or engage in "managed no deal" talks. The EU will not want to be seen as the bad guys.  

 

 

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2 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

They would extend for a GE or a second referendum ... even Macron. But they won't bend on the withdrawal agreement or engage in "managed no deal" talks. The EU will not want to be seen as the bad guys.  

 

 

So come on with the G.E. Jeremy Corbyn is waiting so long time already...:tongue:

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44 minutes ago, puipuitom said:
21 hours ago, Thakkar said:

“Brexit means Brexit” means ????‍♀️????‍♀️

 

But Therexit clearly means June 7th...or does it??

Seen the several voting sessions in the House of Commons, even these cannot agree about that...

 May has resigned as PM w.e.f. 7th June.

 

But as the country needs a PM, she will remain as caretaker until the Conservatives have elected a new leader who will then take over as PM.

 

Whoever that is will have to persuade Parliament to agree to the current deal on the table, come up with a new deal which is acceptable to both the EU and Parliament or persuade Parliament to commit economic suicide by leaving without a deal.

 

If they haven't succeeded with either of the first two options by October then the disaster of a no deal exit is almost certain as it is highly unlikely that the EU will agree to another extension of Article 50.

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1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Then vote accordingly in the referendum.

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I did as did millions of other people. We voted to leave and gave the task to the government to deal with. Nearly 3 years down the road and we still haven't left.

 

I figure it will take a year or more after Brexit to see how things are going before having another general election (if there hasn't been one during that time) to see the effects of post Brexit.

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10 minutes ago, billd766 said:

How can there be a second referendum until the first on has been completed?

 

The UK is not the EU where if the result is unfavourable we have to vote again to get it right.

But how many Brexit related votes you had lately in H.O.C. and even don't get it right !! :cheesy:

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8 minutes ago, evadgib said:
45 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

I have asked Brexiteers many times why they are afraid of a second referendum; none have given a straight answer.

How much straighter than 'bring it on' could their answer have been?

 So this means you are now in favour of a second referendum?

 

Good; what made you change your mind?

 

Can you use that argument to convince billd766 and the majority of Brexiteers here of the need for a second referendum?

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Just now, CG1 Blue said:

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There is also Article 24 which would allow us to keep existing trade arrangements in place with the EU for at least 2 years and up to 10 years while we sort everything out. 

Common misconception - article 24 means nothing of the sort 

 

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/brexit/no-deal-brexit-and-wto-article-24-explained/

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1 minute ago, 7by7 said:

 So this means you are now in favour of a second referendum?

 

Good; what made you change your mind?

 

Can you use that argument to convince billd766 and the majority of Brexiteers here of the need for a second referendum?

I have never been in favour, I was just declaring (again) that I have nothing to fear from the landslide as you'll see on Monday.

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2 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

You've misunderstood the meaning of a 'WTO' Brexit. The WTO rules would only be the default and base position when we leave. The starting point. From there we will make new trading arrangements with other nations. That process has already begun. There is no intention to trade under WTO terms alone! 

No, it is those promoting a 'No deal, WTO terms' Brexit who have misunderstood the disastrous realities of that option. Realities I and others have pointed out.

 

The rest of that paragraph plus

5 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

There is also Article 24 which would allow us to keep existing trade arrangements in place with the EU for at least 2 years and up to 10 years while we sort everything out. 

are strong arguments in favour of May's deal. Apologies, I thought you were against that!

 

 

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2 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I have never been in favour, I was just declaring (again) that I have nothing to fear from the landslide as you'll see on Monday.

I asked you about a second referendum, not a meaningless election which will have no bearing upon Brexit whatever it's result.

 

So are you in now favour of a second referendum wishing to 'bring it on,', or do you still fear it now that the lies of the leave campaign have been widely exposed?

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I will never be in favour and have nothing whatsoever to fear.

Then let's have one to settle it once and for all!

 

Unless you are afraid of losing now that the truth is out!

 

7 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Lies are a red herring too as I made my own mind up without any help

Maybe you did, but most didn't.

 

Otherwise the campaigning, and vast amounts of money spent by both sides, was a complete waste of time!

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