yogi100 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 12 hours ago, Jonnapat said: Who are the champagne socialists, please.? And you forgot to mention Trump's never ending lying, his cosying up to white supremacists and neo nazis, his blatant racism, just to mention a few things. Remember that your previous President was welcomed in every European city, attracting large crowds wherever he went because he was a man of integrity snd decency, something Trump will never be Are you sure about that. Don't you remember his 'back of the queue' remarks about the UK quitting the EU? He may have been welcomed in multicultural London but certainly not elsewhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yogi100 Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Basil B said: I think it is a shame that America is represented by a draft dodger... How many sons of the rich and influential did not dodge the draft? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, baboon said: 'Coached in' is one of those tabloid expressions designed to provoke knee jerk anger. Just like 'Dole bludger buys flat screen TV'. What other kind of TV is available, then? And likewise, how else do you realistically get from A to B with a group of like-minded others in London? What can I say Baboon? I have supported you through thick and thin, dug you out of holes when you were trapped. Protected you! Gave you my precious vote for the last two years on POTY (Poster Of The Year). Pressed the like button on dozens of occasions, and you,,,,,. I'm off for an early beer! Edited June 5, 2019 by owl sees all 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, yogi100 said: You don't hear from the huge silent majority who have no beef with Trump nor the millions who wish we had a leader like him. A small but very vocal minority in the Socialist Republic of London do not express feelings of the population of the UK. Those you see on TV are part of the usual rent a mob who will come out in protest about global warming, banning the bomb, climate change and any other cracked pot issue that is trendy among the great unwashed. You've only got to look at them to realise they're away with the fairies. This says it all really.???? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 No 250,000 around 25,000 they say. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobBKK Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, yogi100 said: How many sons of the rich and influential did not dodge the draft? To be fair anyone would if they could. Many 'poor' escape to Canada and other places - who the heck wants to join and die for a fight in some far off land? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 45 minutes ago, yogi100 said: You don't hear from the huge silent majority who have no beef with Trump nor the millions who wish we had a leader like him. A small but very vocal minority in the Socialist Republic of London do not express feelings of the population of the UK. Those you see on TV are part of the usual rent a mob who will come out in protest about global warming, banning the bomb, climate change and any other cracked pot issue that is trendy among the great unwashed. You've only got to look at them to realise they're away with the fairies. What "huge silent majority"? And "rent a mob"? Surely you could support either comment with more than your opinion? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 37 minutes ago, yogi100 said: How many sons of the rich and influential did not dodge the draft? How many of them are Presidents of the USA? How many represent their countries at official occasions honoring veterans and the fallen? How many of them pick "nasty" fights with actual veterans and families of the fallen? 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Basil B Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, yogi100 said: How many sons of the rich and influential did not dodge the draft? I do not know, but how many other draft dodgers became a president? America has had a lot of presidents with distinguished war records Quote Serving in the military isn't a prerequisite for becoming president. Nonetheless, out of the 45 presidents of the United States, 29 had some military experience in their background, according to the US Department of Veterans Affairs. This seems fitting, given that the president is the commander-in-chief of America's military. https://www.military.com/history/29-american-presidents-from-military.html George H W Bush, Distinguished Flying Cross Richard Nixon, Two Service Stars Lyndon B Johnson, Silver Star John F Kennedy, Navy and Marine Corps Medal and a Purple Heart Theodore Roosevelt, Medal of Honor Sending this Draft dodging senile fool to honor Americas "D-Day" fallen is an insult to them and their families. Edited June 5, 2019 by Basil B 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobBKK Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Morch said: What "huge silent majority"? And "rent a mob"? Surely you could support either comment with more than your opinion? The 59,975,000 who did not turn up for the 'massive protest'? Your POTUS is welcome in our country and he's welcomed AS POTUS - the office not the man. A few left nutters do not represent my country. USA and GB have a close relationship and State Visits are part of showing that loyalty. YOU just want to cause discord for your own political reasons. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, BobBKK said: The 59,975,000 who did not turn up for the 'massive protest'? Your POTUS is welcome in our country and he's welcomed AS POTUS - the office not the man. A few left nutters do not represent my country. USA and GB have a close relationship and State Visits are part of showing that loyalty. YOU just want to cause discord for your own political reasons. So not attending a protest is the same as signing up for your political point of view? Seriously? Protests do not normally see the majority of a population take to the streets. On pretty much any issue involved. Surely you had a point there, other than trying co-opt the whole population of the UK? I don't think people object to the office, but rather to the man. Again, what's your point, exactly? What "discord" do I want to cause, and what political reasons are involved? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post the guest Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 All these liberal snowflakes should rounded-up and put on a deserted Island. I find this situation ironic, where most owe their lives to the Americans, for which without their help the UK would have surrendered to the Germans. It must be very embarrassing that this mob is allowed to demonstrate in such a fashion, if this was Thailand or most parts of Asia then this would have been stamped out even before it got started. But then again, you have a dick for a pint-sized mayor who for some reason has taken leave of his senses, who wishes to bite the hand that feeds the UK in many ways. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Well I sincerely hope they didn't forget to put their thumbs in their ears, wiggle their fingers and angrily stick out their tongues. A balloon.......... no wonder the UK is knackered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Well I sincerely hope they didn't forget to put their thumbs in their ears, wiggle their fingers and angrily stick out their tongues. A balloon.......... no wonder the UK is knackered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Off topic trolling/bickering posts about the results of the 2016 US election results have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 56 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: "Until ballots have a "No suitable candidate" box, this is what will happen." Agree entirely. A 'none of the above' option would encourage far more people to vote IMO! (As long, of course, as this option was reported along with the votes for candidates.) I doubt it would encourage more people to vote, but it would give those who cannot be bothered one less feeble excuse, one has always been able to vote for no candidate by not putting a cross against any of them, shows one has taken the trouble to vote. IMHO, It is always the ones who do not vote who are the first to complain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post evadgib Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 Interesting debate on the blimp: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 45 minutes ago, Basil B said: I doubt it would encourage more people to vote, but it would give those who cannot be bothered one less feeble excuse, one has always been able to vote for no candidate by not putting a cross against any of them, shows one has taken the trouble to vote. IMHO, It is always the ones who do not vote who are the first to complain. And how does that 'vote of displeasure' work, bearing in mind that vote wouldn't be 'counted' as anything other than a 'spoilt' vote? Surely better to give a definite vote, as in 'none of the above' - and make that a category of the results announced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yogi100 Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, the guest said: All these liberal snowflakes should rounded-up and put on a deserted Island. I find this situation ironic, where most owe their lives to the Americans, for which without their help the UK would have surrendered to the Germans. It must be very embarrassing that this mob is allowed to demonstrate in such a fashion, if this was Thailand or most parts of Asia then this would have been stamped out even before it got started. But then again, you have a dick for a pint-sized mayor who for some reason has taken leave of his senses, who wishes to bite the hand that feeds the UK in many ways. You got that wrong. When Germany started considering Operation Sealion in 1940 our RAF blew the Luftwaffe out of the sky in the Battle of Britain before the US even entered the war and before Operation Barbarossa began in 1941 Our Royal navy dwarfed the Kreigsmarine and in the event sank all of their capital ships, most of their destroyers and most of their U boats without any help from the USA and again mostly before US forces arrived in the European Theatre. Explain how the Germans without air superiority and an ineffectual navy could have got us to surrender. US Forces never started arriving in the UK till 1942 by which time the Germans were fighting a war of attrition with the Soviets at Stalingrad, Leningrad and outside Moscow. In actual terms of casualties the Russians beat the Germans not us and not the Americans. Ten German soldiers perished on the Eastern Front for every one that did so in the West. The question of our surrendering to the Germans was never on the table nor was there ever any reason for it to be. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, yogi100 said: You got that wrong. When Germany started considering Operation Sealion in 1940 our RAF blew the Luftwaffe out of the sky in the Battle of Britain before the US even entered the war and before Operation Barbarossa began in 1941 Our Royal navy dwarfed the Kreigsmarine and in the event sank all of their capital ships, most of their destroyers and most of their U boats without any help from the USA and again mostly before US forces arrived in the European Theatre. Explain how the Germans without air superiority and an ineffectual navy could have got us to surrender. US Forces never started arriving in the UK till 1942 by which time the Germans were fighting a war of attrition with the Soviets at Stalingrad, Leningrad and outside Moscow. In actual terms of casualties the Russians beat the Germans not us and not the Americans. Ten German soldiers perished on the Eastern Front for every one that did so in the West. The question of our surrendering to the Germans was never on the table nor was there ever any reason for it to be. Appreciated but I'm not sure we should be airing this so close to the D Day commemorations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogi100 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, evadgib said: Appreciated but I'm not sure we should be airing this so close to the D Day commemorations. I did not introduce the subject inti the topic, I was replying to the person who did. And the subject of the topic is the Trump balloon so we are bound to get remarks made that some consider related to the matter because said balloon should never have been allowed to mar the D Day commemorations. D Day was the most important turning point in the Western European war as far as the UK and the USA are concerned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, yogi100 said: I did not introduce the subject inti the topic, I was replying to the person who did. And the subject of the topic is the Trump balloon so we are bound to get remarks made that some consider related to the matter because said balloon should never have been allowed to mar the D Day commemorations. D Day was the most important turning point in the Western European war as far as the UK and the USA are concerned. ....I suppose it wasn't entirely off topic ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, dick dasterdly said: And how does that 'vote of displeasure' work, bearing in mind that vote wouldn't be 'counted' as anything other than a 'spoilt' vote? Surely better to give a definite vote, as in 'none of the above' - and make that a category of the results announced? Most spoilt papers are votes of displeasure, and are counted. There occasional ones with messages of support, but any writing on a ballot paper invalidates it other than an "X" or say a tick or other marks clearly indicating the voters intention maybe accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 48 minutes ago, evadgib said: ....I suppose it wasn't entirely off topic ???? Don't no if there are any barrage balloons left, so I am sure they could borrow the Trump effigy for a D-Day reenactment with pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Basil B said: Most spoilt papers are votes of displeasure, and are counted. There occasional ones with messages of support, but any writing on a ballot paper invalidates it other than an "X" or say a tick or other marks clearly indicating the voters intention maybe accepted. You may well be right, but surely better to give an obvious 'none of the above' option? Edited June 5, 2019 by dick dasterdly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 People don’t work on Tuesdays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) On 6/4/2019 at 2:53 PM, Justgrazing said: Whilst overlooking that one of the reasons Trump is in town is for the 75th commeration of the D day landings that helped secure the freedom that these knobs take for granted with their childish little stunt .. Wasn't funny first time around .. Without the help of the USA, and our European cousins , in two World Wars UK , would be under the control of the Nazi regime . Let us not forget .. Coward Corbyn does not have the balls/guts or ability, to meet Trump , face to face . The Labour party , is even weaker , than our democratically elected prime minister,, shambles. What a mess the UK , is in ,, terminal decline . RIP, well deserved . Proud to be british , NO.. Edited June 5, 2019 by elliss 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sanemax Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, elliss said: Without the help of the USA, and our European cousins , in two World Wars UK , would be under the control of the Nazi regime . Let us not forget .. Coward Corbyn does not have the balls/guts or ability, to meet Trump , face to face . The Labour party , is even weaker , than our democratically elected prime minister,, shambles. What a mess the UK , is in ,, terminal decline . RIP, well deserved . Proud to be british , NO.. It was actually the Russians who defeated the Nazis, on the Eastern front Dont often see that in the Hollywood movies though 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I think the protests are more to do with Trump than the USA. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nigel Garvie Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 hours ago, sanemax said: It was actually the Russians who defeated the Nazis, on the Eastern front Dont often see that in the Hollywood movies though This is a good comment, the Russians lost at least 20 million in the 2nd world war. The most important battle was the battle of Kursk, where the power of the panzer divisions was finally broken by the Russian T52. Meanwhile many UK soldiers died in the relatively pathetic US Shermans. Without the US who knows what would have happened, but to state that the US saved Europe just shows a lack of balance, and/or a lack of knowledge of history. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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