Popular Post Bob12345 Posted July 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2019 11 hours ago, trainman34014 said: Still an obscene way to deal with matters when the Police case should come first and punishment handed down in a proper manner before any money changes hands. This Guy will now walk out of Court with a fine when he should be doing at least five years behind bars. I don't think this country will ever enter the real world when it comes to crime and punishment ! While I basically agree with you, try to also see the alternative in Thailand: the guy gets a prison sentence of maybe 10 years, and needs to pay a fine of a few (hundred-) thousand baht. The daughter now has lost her parents and will be compensated with pocket money. The grandparents, or whoever will raise her, will not be able to give her a decent shot at life as the financial burden of raising an extra child without having extra income might be too much. You could say that the fine then should be in the millions, but Thailand doesnt have a system where fines are based on income. What if Somchai drives drunk and kills someone? Will he need to pay 20 million baht also with his 300 baht a day income? At least now the daughter will have a shot to have a quality education abroad, or a running start when she finishes school. Of course it wont make up for losing your parents, but no amount of jail time or financial compensation will. This way the guy pays a huge fine, and will still be seen as an A-hole by everybody he knows, lose a lot of business of people avoiding him, gets shunned by friends and relatives, and has to deal with killing people the rest of his life (most Thais are scared shitless of ghosts). I too would like him to see him spend time in jail, but at least he does not get away scotch free (like the red bull guy). I prefer him paying 45 million to the daughter over him paying 5 million to the judge to have the charges dropped. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 At least it was 45 million and not the usual 200,000-1,000,000 baht compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 If I die here and my family gets 45million baht, I’d be ok with that justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krystian Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 12 hours ago, Bluespunk said: But the reckless driving charge leading to a death will still result in a gaol term, yes? reckless driving resulting to homicide or drunk driving resulting to man slaughter?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 If would have been much cheaper to hire a full time Chauffeur. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Michael Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 12 million pounds? Phew! What if he had no money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Radar501 Posted July 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Thailand's rich and powerful keep a card like this in their wallets. Expensive, but worth every single baht. Edited July 2, 2019 by Radar501 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Compensation should be a civil matter, and I doubt the equivalent to THB45 Mil paid out by an insurance company in the western world would have batted an eyelid. I do not know how serious the injuries to the daughter were and just how life changing they were but no doubt 45 mill will have bought her a very big family. Obviously the bulk of the payout should have gone the daughter but does Thailand have a system of putting such payments in to a trust? Compensation payouts should never stop the prosecution of criminal acts. Edited July 2, 2019 by Basil B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searat7 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 3 hours ago, CALSinCM said: The rich can buy their way out of criminal charges. Jail is for the little people. A settlement in a civil case should not affect the level of criminal charges brought against the defendant. A Thai doctor once told me that rich people don't go To jail in Thailand. So true ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 The guy will will not see the inside of a jail TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post remorhaz Posted July 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Okay well this is informative. The current rate for killing a Thai cop is 45 million but a Russian tourist only nets 5,000 with a smiling cop bearing an oversized cheque. Got it. We honestly need a price list posted at the airport to know how we falangs stack up vs. our Thai betters broken down by sex, age, and profession but this is a start. Edited July 2, 2019 by remorhaz incorrect amount 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 other people's life is 50k baht but because its a cop the prise rise 1000x ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shine 919 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Where is the Red Bull, case closed with a big brown envelope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kawapete Posted July 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2019 Another case showing in full public that Thailand is not a country of justice if you are wealthy enough or well connected 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) Well i suppose the drunk driver has taken some responsibility while the other @rsehole who killed a cop,just did a runner, taking no responsibility at all.45 million would have nothing to him too. regards worgeordie Edited July 2, 2019 by worgeordie add on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ctkong Posted July 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2019 13 hours ago, trainman34014 said: Still an obscene way to deal with matters when the Police case should come first and punishment handed down in a proper manner before any money changes hands. This Guy will now walk out of Court with a fine when he should be doing at least five years behind bars. I don't think this country will ever enter the real world when it comes to crime and punishment ! That is why Thais worship money . In Thailand, having enough money can make anything go away... and buy you face, social status and happiness indirectly.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, worgeordie said: Well i suppose the drunk driver has taken some responsibility while the other @rsehole who killed a cop,just did a runner, taking no responsibility at all.45 million would have nothing to him too. regards worgeordie Maybe enough compensation was made to affected parties behind the scene which we do not know about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Public prosecutor have now decided to drop the charges related to homicide. Somchai has already pleaded guilty to the three remaining charges of speeding, drunk driving and reckless driving. The court will deliver its verdict on July 31. Homicide, well I a glad the prosecutor decided to drop that charge, because no doubt it would have been thrown out of court, as homicide from my interpretation means: the deliberate killing of a person, this was an accident so I fail to see the relevance to a homicide charge. Pleading guilty to the remaining 3 charges, i.e. speeding, drunk driving and reckless driving, well that's just an everyday event on Thai roads isn't it, I suppose the fact that he drives a Benz and has compensated the deceased daughter, no doubt the court system here will go lightly on him, e.g. 500 baht for each charge and a wai. I only hope the daughter does get the 45 mil and no lawyer pees off with it, or the grandparents don't pee it up the wall. Will be waiting for the verdict, don't know why, because I reckon it's pretty much what I have assumed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, justin case said: other people's life is 50k baht but because its a cop the prise rise 1000x ? More like loss of future earnings as well as how wealthy the guilty party is. Milk all you can . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEE TEE Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Money talks B.S. walks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Sadness for the family loss. Not even in the line of duty. The thai obsession with monetary is just another sad blight on the LOS. Never seem to see any mention of the actual government amount payable in these circumstances? It always seems to fall back on the individuals concerned. *There would have to be some life insurance cover and the third party insurance component that is attached to vehicle accidents? Just interested. Or does that not get paid if the party involved coughs up a small fortune like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 "Money, money, money must be funny in a rich man's world" and to hell with all the poor people who cannot buy justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucegoniners Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 So you can buy your way out of a murder charge? He’ll just go do it again. Watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tomahawk21 Posted July 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2019 14 hours ago, trainman34014 said: Still an obscene way to deal with matters when the Police case should come first and punishment handed down in a proper manner before any money changes hands. This Guy will now walk out of Court with a fine when he should be doing at least five years behind bars. I don't think this country will ever enter the real world when it comes to crime and punishment ! money number 1 never met people like the Thais for money 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 friends that are recovered "now sober" alcoholics whose actions while drunk landed them prison terms have told me it was the best thing that could have happened because they had no choice but to be sober. once the brain cleared they were able to think normally and realize/regret all the damage they had done. at least the compensation paid is real world though some might argue too much based on predicted earnings for given occupations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, BobBKK said: and to hell with all the poor people who cannot buy justice they can if they take out a loan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidst01 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 bloody hell...45mill. crazy money to pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomahawk21 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 51 minutes ago, justin case said: other people's life is 50k baht but because its a cop the prise rise 1000x ? i think its more of a case, the man driving the car was a very very wealthy man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, atyclb said: friends that are recovered "now sober" alcoholics whose actions while drunk landed them prison terms have told me it was the best thing that could have happened because they had no choice but to be sober. once the brain cleared they were able to think normally and realize/regret all the damage they had done. at least the compensation paid is real world though some might argue too much based on predicted earnings for given occupations No one, ever, should be allowed to get charges dropped for financial compensation. The law should be above all, no matter class, money, gender or 'who you know'. The opposite is true here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 11 hours ago, off road pat said: Hmm,..Correct, but In the real world similar things happen as well, but in the background!!! This one was almost in the open...now if this is a good or a bad thing is a very different and difficult question to answer. If by real world you mean Western democracies,NO it wouldn’t,the criminal charges would be prosecuted irrespective of any financial settlement-the two are quite separate and in UK for example this guy would be on the thick end of the 14 years maximum for causing death by dangerous driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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