Visa savannakhet

[Joromei]

Hi all just wondering if any members have up to date news regarding visa applications for marriage extention  from savannakhet  .I Am about to go there to apply for the visa and as things seem to change so much thought I would ask before doing the trip  going to drive so we can have a bit of a look around (2birds one stone) I understand they don't require proof of cash there  plus certain days are best. Has the proof of cash circumstances changed lately.  Thanks in advance for any info  will  set the mind at rest as it would be a long way for nothing. 

[ubonjoe]

You will not get a extension at the Thai consulate in Savannakhet those are only issued by a immigration office.

You can apply for a multiple entry non-o visa that allows unlimited 90 day entries for a year from the date of issue for a fee of 5000 baht at the consulate. No need for financial proof to apply for it.

You will need you original marriage certificate and a copy of it. Copies of your wife's house book registry and ID card signed by her.

The best days are Tuesday and Wednesday. Also not busy on Friday if you willing to stay over the weekend to pick up your passport on Monday afternoon.

[Joromei]

7 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You will not get a extension at the Thai consulate in Savannakhet those are only issued by a immigration office.

You can apply for a multiple entry non-o visa that allows unlimited 90 day entries for a year from the date of issue for a fee of 5000 baht at the consulate. No need for financial proof to apply for it.

You will need you original marriage certificate and a copy of it. Copies of your wife's house book registry and ID card signed by her.

The best days are Tuesday and Wednesday. Also not busy on Friday if you willing to stay over the weekend to pick up your passport on Monday afternoon.

Thanks Joe!  Please excuse my ignorance but when you say 90 day does that imply I need to go out of Thailand every 90 days or report every 90 days  Geez these visa topics  really need to be studied if you don't want to mess up. And I don't. 

Edited July 4, 2019 by Joromei
Clarification

[ubonjoe]

11 minutes ago, Joromei said:

Please excuse my ignorance but when you say 90 day does that imply I need to go out of Thailand every 90 days or report every 90 days 

You have to leave the country every 90 days to get a new 90 day entry. You can though extend each entry for 60 days at immigration to visit your wife for a fee of 1900 baht.

If you don't want to leave the country you would have to apply for a one year extension of stay at immigration based upon marriage. You would need 400k baht in a Thai bank in you name only for 2 months or proof of 40k baht income.

[Joromei]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You have to leave the country every 90 days to get a new 90 day entry. You can though extend each entry for 60 days at immigration to visit your wife for a fee of 1900 baht.

If you don't want to leave the country you would have to apply for a one year extension of stay at immigration based upon marriage. You would need 400k baht in a Thai bank in you name only for 2 months or proof of 40k baht income.

Thanks Joe will think on this need to come up with a good solution.  So if I get to visa for marriage in savannakhet  then technically I could do the kunchanaburi border crossing  which is very close to us  and have another  90 days  yes?  Or could just do the kunchanaburi border crossing .then extend 60days after that, but if I remember right they only give the auss passport 15 days there  perhaps that has changed in the last couple of yrs.  Never had this problem before  due to month on month off type work  but now  recovering from TB so need different visa  . 

[BigT73]

I took the 6.30am bus that travels the border from mukdahan to savanakhet, I arrived early at the consulate but was 5th in queue.  They line ended pretty long, with busses coming from Bangkok with Filipinos,  they arrived about 30min before open time.

[ubonjoe]

58 minutes ago, Joromei said:

Thanks Joe will think on this need to come up with a good solution.  So if I get to visa for marriage in savannakhet  then technically I could do the kunchanaburi border crossing  which is very close to us  and have another  90 days  yes?  Or could just do the kunchanaburi border crossing .then extend 60days after that, but if I remember right they only give the auss passport 15 days there  perhaps that has changed in the last couple of yrs.  Never had this problem before  due to month on month off type work  but now  recovering from TB so need different visa  . 

You can use any border crossing and get a new 90 day entry. You are thinking of the old 15 day (it is now 30 days) visa exempt entry rule that would not apply if you have a valid visa for entry.

No problem to do it Ban Phu Nam Ron crossing in Kanchanaburi. You will pay 960 baht for transport across no mans land and back again that includes 500 baht baht for the Myanmar border pass.

You could extend the first 90 day entry after getting the visa for 60 days at immigration. Do a border hop to get a 90 day entry near the end of he  60 days and then extend it for 60 days. The only thing you have to watch is the date the visa expires. You will want to do a border hop just before the visa expires to get a new 90 day entry and then extend it for 60 days that will allow a total stay from the visa of almost 17 months.

[Joromei]

17 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You can use any border crossing and get a new 90 day entry. You are thinking of the old 15 day (it is now 30 days) visa exempt entry rule that would not apply if you have a valid visa for entry.

No problem to do it Ban Phu Nam Ron crossing in Kanchanaburi. You will pay 960 baht for transport across no mans land and back again that includes 500 baht baht for the Myanmar border pass.

You could extend the first 90 day entry after getting the visa for 60 days at immigration. Do a border hop to get a 90 day entry near the end of he  60 days and then extend it for 60 days. The only thing you have to watch is the date the visa expires. You will want to do a border hop just before the visa expires to get a new 90 day entry and then extend it for 60 days that will allow a total stay from the visa of almost 17 months.

Thank you Joe  helps heaps  you should start a visa service.  But of course that would be working without a permit.  Then again I'm sure you could  manage that  regards Joe 

[barry553]

I did the multiple entry non-o visa based on marriage on Tuesday, don't worry it really is easy if you have the correct documents. The queue when I arrived at 9.20 was about 5 -10 people who got dealt with quickly. I spent 1 or 2 minutes when it was my turn, he quickly looked through the documents and that was it. 

[Deerculler]

As I am already on a O-A visa extension and also married.

Would I need to get a re entry permit from immigration before I left Thailand and went to Savannakhet?

[glegolo]

5 minutes ago, Deerculler said:

As I am already on a O-A visa extension and also married.

Would I need to get a re entry permit from immigration before I left Thailand and went to Savannakhet?

If you are on a extension of stay based on marriage you need to have a re entry permit in order not to get your extension cancelled out when leaving Thailand...

 

glegolo

Edited July 4, 2019 by glegolo

[Deerculler]

At the moment I am on O-A extension but it sounds like it would be the same.

Thank you for your reply.

[ubonjoe]

1 minute ago, Deerculler said:

At the moment I am on O-A extension but it sounds like it would be the same.

Thank you for your reply.

Not if you want to end your extension.

If you are going to get a non-o visa in Savannakhet there would be no need to get a re-entry permit since you would use it for entry.

[Deerculler]

Thank you Joe.

I should have thought of that..

[Deerculler]

I understand about going over a border every 90 days.

Can it be any border and how long can I stay over a border before I return?

[Bangkok Barry]

22 minutes ago, Deerculler said:

I understand about going over a border every 90 days.

Can it be any border and how long can I stay over a border before I return?

 

I have a couple of times gone over the border into Laos from Savannakhet, on one occasion coming straight back out within five minutes and the most recent time after having a leisurely Beer Lao until I saw the bus from the town centre roll up. Maybe 20-30 minutes. Both times I was out of Thailand for less than an hour.

In theory you could just exit Thailand and walk across the road and re-enter, saving $35/1500 baht and a wasted page in your passport for the visa needed when you enter Laos, but Thai immigration not only demand that you leave Thailand but also enter another country. It is, I'm sure, not in any rule book or the law, but that makes no difference. They might grumble and let you straight back in, but it is just as likely they will demand you act in the spirit of the law and enter another country.

Edited July 4, 2019 by Bangkok Barry

[BritTim]

14 minutes ago, Deerculler said:

I understand about going over a border every 90 days.

Can it be any border and how long can I stay over a border before I return?

Any border crossing (but avoid Poipet/Aranyaprathet). At most crossings, you can just turn around and come straight back if you wish. On the other hand, as far as Thai immigration is concerned, you can stay out as long as you wish. If using the Cambodian border, there is a Cambodian rule that you must stay overnight, but they will waive that requirement on payment of 200-300 baht.

[BritTim]

1 minute ago, Bangkok Barry said:

In theory you could just exit Thailand and walk across the road and re-enter, saving $35/1500 baht and a wasted page in your passport for a visa needed when you enter Laos, but Thai immigration not only demand that you leave Thailand but also enter another country. It is, I'm sure, not in any rule book or the law, but that makes no difference.

Thai immigration takes the view that you have not fully crossed from Thailand into Laos by just stepping into no man's land. IMHO it is not an unreasonable interpretation.

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

I have a couple of times gone over the border into Laos from Savannakhet, on one occasion coming straight back out within five minutes and the most recent time after having a leisurely Beer Lao until I saw the bus from the town centre roll up. Maybe 20-30 minutes. Both times I was out of Thailand for less than an hour.

In theory you could just exit Thailand and walk across the road and re-enter, saving $35/1500 baht and a wasted page in your passport for the visa needed when you enter Laos, but Thai immigration not only demand that you leave Thailand but also enter another country. It is, I'm sure, not in any rule book or the law, but that makes no difference.

The actual border isnt where the immigration office is , the actual border is the middle of the bridge 

[Bangkok Barry]

2 minutes ago, BritTim said:

Thai immigration takes the view that you have not fully crossed from Thailand into Laos by just stepping into no man's land. IMHO it is not an unreasonable interpretation.

 

If you pass through passport control then you have legally left the country, surely. That is all the law demands, as far as I know. I doubt very much that they could point to something in their rule book that says you must enter another country. But it's a dangerous thing to try and get an IO to justify what they are doing. Never, ever back them into a corner and make them lose face.

[Deerculler]

What I was getting is:
My 90 day border crossing would be Chong Chom.
I thought perhaps a few days at Siem Reap would be nice to go to.



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[BritTim]

49 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

If you pass through passport control then you have legally left the country, surely. That is all the law demands, as far as I know. I doubt very much that they could point to something in their rule book that says you must enter another country. But it's a dangerous thing to try and get an IO to justify what they are doing. Never, ever back them into a corner and make them lose face.

I understand what you are saying, but let us consider a few facets of this:

• First, if you are stamped out of Thailand at the airport, but never board an aircraft, have you left Thailand? I am pretty sure Thai immigration would say "no", and most people would consider this reasonable.
• Now, there is usually considered to be a clear demarcation line where Thailand ends and Laos begins. That demarcation line is not actually at Thai immigration. It is somewhere between Thai immigration and Laos immigration. The stamping of the passport is necessarily done before you actually cross the border, but the act of stamping the passport is not what causes you to cross the border. You have left Thailand when you cross the border into Laos. If you enter Laos without being processed by Laos immigration, that could be interpreted as illegal entry into Laos. Thus, you either have not left Thailand, or are subject to Laos laws governing entry into their country, even if you only stepped one inch into their country.

[Bangkok Barry]

28 minutes ago, BritTim said:

I understand what you are saying, but let us consider a few facets of this:

• First, if you are stamped out of Thailand at the airport, but never board an aircraft, have you left Thailand? I am pretty sure Thai immigration would say "no", and most people would consider this reasonable.
• Now, there is usually considered to be a clear demarcation line where Thailand ends and Laos begins. That demarcation line is not actually at Thai immigration. It is somewhere between Thai immigration and Laos immigration. The stamping of the passport is necessarily done before you actually cross the border, but the act of stamping the passport is not what causes you to cross the border. You have left Thailand when you cross the border into Laos. If you enter Laos without being processed by Laos immigration, that could be interpreted as illegal entry into Laos. Thus, you either have not left Thailand, or are subject to Laos laws governing entry into their country, even if you only stepped one inch into their country.

 

A member recently posted here about flying to Singapore to meet someone in the transit area, so he most certainly had left Thailand. But when he flew back to Thailand he was given a hard time because he had not entered Singapore. So the policy does appear to be that you must enter another country, whether you want to or need to or not. I really can't see that is any of Thailand's business, if you have satisfied their (pointless) demand that you leave Thailand after 90 days.

[Gerard052]

On 7/3/2019 at 10:16 PM, ubonjoe said:

You have to leave the country every 90 days to get a new 90 day entry. You can though extend each entry for 60 days at immigration to visit your wife for a fee of 1900 baht.

If you don't want to leave the country you would have to apply for a one year extension of stay at immigration based upon marriage. You would need 400k baht in a Thai bank in you name only for 2 months or proof of 40k baht income.

Good day Ubonjoe, can you clarify a point for me?  If I apply for a marriage visa, does that 40k Baht monthly income has to come in a Thai Baht account or can it be deposited in the Bank in my own country and I have the proof when I apply for the visa?  If I have to deposit the 40Kin a Thai bank it won’t be possible for me and that means that I will have to apply for a tourist visa as I normally come to Thailand for only 5-6 months at the most, every year.  I used to have retirement visas but with the new rules and the compulsory health insurance it will be too costly for me as I will be 74 in December even though I am in good health. Thank you very much in advance.   

[ubonjoe]

2 hours ago, Gerard052 said:

Good day Ubonjoe, can you clarify a point for me?  If I apply for a marriage visa, does that 40k Baht monthly income has to come in a Thai Baht account or can it be deposited in the Bank in my own country and I have the proof when I apply for the visa?  If I have to deposit the 40Kin a Thai bank it won’t be possible for me and that means that I will have to apply for a tourist visa as I normally come to Thailand for only 5-6 months at the most, every year.

You do not need proof of income or any other financial proof to apply for the multiple entry non-o visa based upon marriage at Savannakhet.

Only the one year extension of stay applied for at immigration requires the 40k baht income. It has to be transferred into a Thai bank or if from a country whose embassy still provides proof income you can use that to apply for the extension,

 

2 hours ago, Gerard052 said:

I used to have retirement visas but with the new rules and the compulsory health insurance it will be too costly for me as I will be 74 in December even though I am in good health. Thank you very much in advance.   

At this time there's nothing that states insurance will be needed for extension of stay based upon retirement. It will only be needed to apply for a OA long stay visa at a embassy in your home country.

[GlynRhedyn]

 

 

is this multiple entry non-o visa based on marriage only available from Consulates? This would appear to be a better deal that the extension of visa based on marriage, 400k in the bank and a permit to re-enter prior to leaving. Now the reason for my question. My Thai "home" is near Aranyapratet so there is no Consulate in nearby Cambodia. Would this mean a trip to the Thai Embassy at home prior to travel or to Phnom Penh when my next tourist visa is about ready for extension to get this non-o based on marriage visa?

[ubonjoe]

14 hours ago, GlynRhedyn said:

 

 

is this multiple entry non-o visa based on marriage only available from Consulates? This would appear to be a better deal that the extension of visa based on marriage, 400k in the bank and a permit to re-enter prior to leaving. Now the reason for my question. My Thai "home" is near Aranyapratet so there is no Consulate in nearby Cambodia. Would this mean a trip to the Thai Embassy at home prior to travel or to Phnom Penh when my next tourist visa is about ready for extension to get this non-o based on marriage visa?

They can be applied for at some embassies. Phnom Penh will not do one.

Two nearby official Thai consulates will issue a multiple entry non-o visa based upon marriage to a Thai with no financial proof needed. They are Savannakhet Laos and Ho Chi Minh City Vietnam. Penang Malaysia will do one with 400k baht in the bank.

You can travel overland to Savannakhet from where you live. You would cross the bridge at Mukdahan to Savannakhet.

[Gerard052]

8 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You do not need proof of income or any other financial proof to apply for the multiple entry non-o visa based upon marriage at Savannakhet.

Only the one year extension of stay applied for at immigration requires the 40k baht income. It has to be transferred into a Thai bank or if from a country whose embassy still provides proof income you can use that to apply for the extension,

 

At this time there's nothing that states insurance will be needed for extension of stay based upon retirement. It will only be needed to apply for a OA long stay visa at a embassy in your home country.

First of all, thank you very much for your quick reply. I was thinking of a single entry non-o visa as only stay between 5-6 months a year.  So in that case, do I still need to show the 40k income and if so, in which bank, Thai bank or in my own country.  Thanks in advance. 

[ubonjoe]

11 hours ago, Gerard052 said:

First of all, thank you very much for your quick reply. I was thinking of a single entry non-o visa as only stay between 5-6 months a year.  So in that case, do I still need to show the 40k income and if so, in which bank, Thai bank or in my own country.  Thanks in advance. 

No financial proof is needed to apply for single entry non-o visa in Vientiane or Savannakhet.

With a single entry non-o visa you can get a total stay of about 5 months by extending the 90 day entry from it by applying for a 60 day extension to visit your wife at your local immigration office.

[GlynRhedyn]

Thanks ubonjoe, it does appear that until the Savannakhet Consulate loophole is closed then that is my only realistic option. A 7 hour drive and a Laos entry visa or 400k locked up in a Thai bank account. it looks like my recently bought pre-owned Toyota will be getting some extra km.