On ‎7‎/‎25‎/‎2019 at 3:29 PM, IvorBiggun2 said:

At Buriram Immigration yesterday I had a slight problem. To cut it short my missus was passed a piece of paper with 15,000 Baht on it. The officer said this is the price for us to overlook the seasoning period. I said no as I don't mind going back in 2 months once my money has seasoned. 

They deliberately push people into a corner in the hope that they'll jump. I didn't, and saved myself 15,000 Baht.

Same happened to me at Buriram 3 years ago I also refused to pay, they gave me a hard time because I would not pay and I had to make 3 trips to immigration in one week before I got my extension, 600k driving back and forth, bunch of T____ers

5 hours ago, Neeranam said:

What's wrong with Thai banks?

Makes him too much money afraid it will corrupt him.  

8 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

So you recommend that every year I/we do a visa overseas? As I see it that's the worst option when you can pay an agent 12,000 every year.

Not advocating the use of agents to deal with corrupt immigration matters (I actually despise it) but paying to 'oil the wheels' is a part of life in Thailand and widespread throughout Asia.  Foreigners are not the only ones who are asked, sometimes required, to make 'contributions' to get things done.  Talk to Thai's - they get shafted too - OK at a lower level but they earn far less so the effect may harm them more than us.

 

I would be going out to get a visa rather than pay bribes - until that option is closed, as it is already at a few Consulates/Embassies.  Corruption is like a virus - it spreads rapidly and indiscriminately, I resist it as much as possible. The only chance of stopping it is not to take part in it.

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Good post Khao Yai. But the way things are going is that in a few years, along the line, there will be no farang staying here statistically . Legally. And the official statistics will not be correct. Somewhere along the line the siht (anagram) is gonna hit the fan. What happens then?

Edited July 26, 20196 yr by IvorBiggun2

1 minute ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

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Good post Khao Yai. But the way things are going is that in a few years, along the line, there will be no farang staying here. Legally. And the official statistics will not be correct. Somewhere along the line the siht (anagram) is gonna hit the fan. What happens then?

All the Farang who were staying here legally using the 800k method or the income method legally will have no problem staying.  Only 70,000 staying here anyway hardly a big number.

11 hours ago, mike787 said:

Nobody cares.

he would be waiting quietly for his cut to kick up.. 

5 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

There is a 'Hot-Line 1178' I think? Phone that and ask the question. Very helpful people on the other end of the line.

I have not seen one report where that has helped. I have asked numerous times and nobody has ever answered. Have you.?

16 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

All the Farang who were staying here legally using the 800k method or the income method legally will have no problem staying.

Of course it will. It seems to be easier to stay here illegally.

 

Edited July 26, 20196 yr by IvorBiggun2

2 minutes ago, pontious said:

I have not seen one report where that has helped. I have asked numerous times and nobody has ever answered. Have you.?

Yep. Had a problem 6 weeks ago where I would not pay 500 Baht to have my passport stamps be transferred to my new passport. My missus phone the number 'Hot -Line' prior and they confirmed, before we went to IO, that there was no charge for transfer of stamps into new passports. My wife then called again a few hours later and got a different person. She asked the same question. The second operative confirmed 'No charge'. Hence why I refused to pay 500 baht to have my passport stamps transferred to a new passport. Man up.

On 7/25/2019 at 3:29 PM, IvorBiggun2 said:

At Buriram Immigration yesterday I had a slight problem. To cut it short my missus was passed a piece of paper with 15,000 Baht on it. The officer said this is the price for us to overlook the seasoning period. I said no as I don't mind going back in 2 months once my money has seasoned. 

They deliberately push people into a corner in the hope that they'll jump. I didn't, and saved myself 15,000 Baht.

I hope you don’t get the same lady next time. She might deny you out of spite.

42 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

All the Farang who were staying here legally using the 800k method or the income method legally will have no problem staying.  Only 70,000 staying here anyway hardly a big number.

Some agents are able to work around this now, as expected. If anyone can’t meet the requirements, go talk to a few agents until you find one who can do it. Agents grease the wheels. Always have, always will.

2 minutes ago, dcnx said:

I hope you don’t get the same lady next time. She might deny you out of spite.

There goes the problem. Fear. If you're legal there is no fear.

41 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Man up.

A stupid remark. You knew it was free. Why did you not phone at the immigration officers desk when you were there. Then passed the phone to him / her. No I thought not. Come to PATTAYA or anywhere, and get a Residence certificate. Phone the hotline then pass the phone to the officer and say it is free- see how far you get.

I have always found Khon Kaen Immigration to be helpful and polite.

Never had a problem myself.

20 hours ago, spornb said:

Does anyone use agents in KhonKaen, maybe pay up and avoid stress

 

 

20 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

You are then going to be doing exactly what they want. More money to them.

Spornb I owe you, and possibly others, an apology. I've criticized you about using agents. I've just now found out the new rule change of 1 March 2019 which states

 

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The ฿800,000 must be in the bank for at least 2 months before your visa application.

As of 1st March, 2019, the ฿800,000 must also remain in your bank for 3 months after the extension, and, after those 3 months, you must keep ฿400,000 in there indefinitely. 

 

Knowing what I know now, you are correct in that using an agent to obtain you annual extension/visa is a whole lot lesser hassle than to stay legal. I too may now go down the road of using an agent in the future. Any agents in Buriram?

41 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Knowing what I know now, you are correct in that using an agent to obtain you annual extension/visa is a whole lot lesser hassle than to stay legal. I too may now go down the road of using an agent in the future. Any agents in Buriram?

5555555. You bang on about corruption at  Buriram Immigration. How bad it is and how you would never pay.

 

Now you are going to roll up with an agent to circumnavigate the rules. Isn't that what the IO offered in the first place?

 

They are going to have you for breakfast. Let us know when you are going. I have to see this.

21 minutes ago, puchooay said:

Now you are going to roll up with an agent

No. I said I was going to look into it. I never said I was going actually do it. I've no wish to go down the under the table method but things have come to my attention that I never knew before, likes of the 400,000 that has to remain in the bank indefinitely. That's a whole new playing field right there. Or I go down the Marriage Extension route. I've plenty of time make up me mind but when I do you will be the first I tell.    

Edited July 27, 20196 yr by IvorBiggun2

I have just been transferring between 60 and 100K a month into Kasikorn, I am hoping i don't have any problems in January. 

14 minutes ago, jimmyyy said:

I have just been transferring between 60 and 100K a month into Kasikorn, I am hoping i don't have any problems in January. 

If for retirement the ones below 65k baht would not be accepted to apply for the extension. Average income is not allowed for those extensions.

For marriage it is well above the 40k baht requirement.

Hey Joe can you just confirm that if I obtained a 'Marriage Extension' There doesn't have to be any monies left in the bank once the extension has been obtained. Which is 2 months after submission, as I understand it? 

Edited July 27, 20196 yr by IvorBiggun2

3 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Hey Joe can you just confirm that if I obtained a 'Marriage Extension' There doesn't have to be any monies left in the bank once the extension has been obtained. Which is 2 months after submission, as I understand it? 

The marrage extension does not require any money in the bank after you have your extension. The period of under consideration is variable between 30 days after submission to 30 days after your current extension expires. So it could be less than 2 months depending on which office/region in which you apply.

On 7/25/2019 at 2:08 PM, spornb said:

400,000 Deposit, bank letter etc done BUT now told we can not touch it until our date for visa collection, (Sept 15 2019) this was never the case before, is there a government statement on this, we had promised builders this money this week, so effectively 400,000 tied up two months plus six weeks, if the money not there visa will not be issued. We were told by the boss lady very firmly,  if we do not like it do not get visa extension

 

It is the sudden change in rules that is the upsetting point

 

We requested a copy of the rules and were ignored

 

I thought grandfather in rules meant that original rules kept going so long as no break in continuity

As has been mentioned region 4 has been applying the requirement to keep money in the bank during the under consideration period starting earlier this year.

 

At the moment there is no written rule or local guide stating this.

 

Grandfarthering rules only apply in some cases, they are not a standard, and there is specific guidance in the police regulations when they do apply.

On 7/26/2019 at 9:37 AM, dick turpin said:

How long has it been the case that it takes two months to process marriage extensions, back in my time before switching to retirement extensions it was one month.....such is progress.

It depends on the office/region and when you apply.

 

In region 4 (to the best of my knowledge) the 30 day under consideration period runs to 30 days after your current extension expires so it can be anywhere from 60 to 30 days depending on when you apply.

On 7/26/2019 at 11:06 AM, IvorBiggun2 said:

We arrived at the Buriram IO without our KR2. Officer said he wouldn't accept a copy when my wife asked. He wanted the original. That meant a round trip of 150km to go get the original from home. 

That was a miss communication.

 

He actually needed a recently issued KR2 not the one issued when you got married. 

 

Unless there is a database problem you can get a new KR2 from any amper.

 

The reason for requiring a newly issued KR2 is to show that you haven't divorced up to it's issue date.

3 hours ago, puchooay said:

5555555. You bang on about corruption at  Buriram Immigration. How bad it is and how you would never pay.

 

Now you are going to roll up with an agent to circumnavigate the rules. Isn't that what the IO offered in the first place?

 

They are going to have you for breakfast. Let us know when you are going. I have to see this.

 

3 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

I've plenty of time make up me mind but when I do you will be the first I tell.

Take your 55555's back Poopooay I'm staying legal and will be changing to a 'Marriage Extention'.  

4 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Unless there is a database problem you can get a new KR2 from any amper.

That is absolutely correct. Thank you for confirming what I said.

Ok so sry a question. Is it not 400k in the bank OR 40k a month comming into a thai bank? 

On 7/26/2019 at 12:20 PM, Moonlover said:

 

We did our 3rd marriage extension this week at Sakon Nakhon and were asked for the first time for a new Kor 2. IO explained to wifey that they've been told to be on the alert for bogus marriages, hence this latest requirement.

So does this mean we have to go all the way to Bangkok to get a copy because we were married in Lak Si??

22 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

On ‎7‎/‎26‎/‎2019 at 12:20 PM, Moonlover said:

 

We did our 3rd marriage extension this week at Sakon Nakhon and were asked for the first time for a new Kor 2. IO explained to wifey that they've been told to be on the alert for bogus marriages, hence this latest requirement.

 

22 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

So does this mean we have to go all the way to Bangkok to get a copy because we were married in Lak Si??

Oh no, don't worry. We also married in Bangkok, but we were able to get the Kor 2 from the local Amphur. It only took about 20-30 minutes.

On 7/26/2019 at 9:37 AM, dick turpin said:

How long has it been the case that it takes two months to process marriage extensions, back in my time before switching to retirement extensions it was one month.....such is progress.

2 months to season money. read the post.