Popular Post nauseus Posted September 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said: That says we don't want one, not that there can't be one. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted September 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 hours ago, robblok said: I wonder what ditch he has selected for himself. ???? The Thrump of the UK. A ditch in time saves nein. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRoadrunner Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I doubt Boris ever intended to allow the UK to crash out without a deal. It was all a bluff to try to force a better deal from the EU. The Queen just took away her PM's leverage, so what kind of deal will the UK now get? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I feel another million on the payroll and freebee fit out of some gaff we are supposed to own coming for all this tireless work???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sawadee1947 Posted September 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2019 4 hours ago, vogie said: but cowardly labour and the rest are just to scared to do the right thing Take it the other way round. Labour and the "rest" are brave heroes to fight a maniac. ???? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 7by7 Posted September 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said: I doubt Boris ever intended to allow the UK to crash out without a deal. It was all a bluff to try to force a better deal from the EU. The Queen just took away her PM's leverage, so what kind of deal will the UK now get? Whether you consider Boris's brinkmanship to be leverage or stupidity, the Queen did not take it away from him; Parliament did. She gave Royal Assent to a Bill which had successfully passed through both Houses, as she is legally and constitutionally obliged to do, whatever her personal feelings. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, 7by7 said: She gave Royal Assent to a Bill which had successfully passed through both Houses, as she is legally and constitutionally obliged to do, whatever her personal feelings. Not quite true. She could withhold her assent if she wishes but never does. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, HHTel said: Not quite true. She could withhold her assent if she wishes but never does. Not so much if she wishes, but on the advice of her ministers; though the last monarch to do that was Queen Anne in 1708. So Boris could have advised her to withhold Royal Assent; but he didn't. Her majesty could have used her reserve powers to delay Royal Assent, even indefinitely thus vetoing the bill. But doing so would have caused all sorts of constitution problems, probably even more than had Boris advised her to withhold Royal Assent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, 7by7 said: Not so much if she wishes, but on the advice of her ministers; though the last monarch to do that was Queen Anne in 1708. So Boris could have advised her to withhold Royal Assent; but he didn't. Her majesty could have used her reserve powers to delay Royal Assent, even indefinitely thus vetoing the bill. But doing so would have caused all sorts of constitution problems, probably even more than had Boris advised her to withhold Royal Assent. If Royal Assent had been delayed , prorugation of Parliament would result in the Bill receiving automatic Royal Assent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 It would be more correct, and avoid some confusion, to say the bill received Royal ascent. Though As I have often remarked there’s an awful lot of confusion and misunderstanding around Brexit on matters of the workings of British Government and governance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 12 hours ago, HHTel said: It seems that many don't understand the protocol for passing laws in the UK. All laws require royal assent. Technically, the Queen can refuse to approve a law. However, it's long standing protocol for the Queen to follow the advice of her government. It's not unique to the UK. Even laws in Australia require royal assent although it is given by the governor general on the Queen's behalf. Likely the same many that don't understand why there has to be a queen involved at all. And likely from countries that have an elected government, sometimes even with a single "house" instead of lords and whatnot. Some traditions belong in Disney movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Letseng said: Why do you think Rees-Mogg moved his investment company to the EU? To make money from Brexit and to do business post Brexit. British investments in Netherlands soar four-fold … https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-netherlands-investments/british... 10-9-2019 · British investments in the Netherlands soared more than four-fold to 80 billion euros (72 billion pounds) since the referendum to leave the European Union ... and this is only for little NL Over a third of British expats in Ireland ready to … https://www.internationalinvestment.net/news/4002680/british-expats-ireland-ready-hand... Over a third (35%) of British expats living in Ireland are willing to say goodbye to their home country due to Brexit by seeking citizenship or permanent residency… Edited September 10, 2019 by puipuitom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 16 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said: An unelected head of state blocks Brexit. What irony. this should tell people a lot about who runs the show... remember you have democracy only when it benefits the elite rulers... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 It would be more correct, and avoid some confusion, to say the bill received Royal ascent. Though As I have often remarked there’s an awful lot of confusion and misunderstanding around Brexit on matters of the workings of British Government and governance.You should try keeping quiet then and nobody would notice you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 12 hours ago, rhyddid said: HM The Queen, did it right. How Brits dare to question HM The Queen ? The UK Royal family no longer has the authority that makes them unquestionable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welovesundaysatspace Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, rhyddid said: How Brits dare to question HM The Queen ? She’s unelected. For a Brexiteer, everyone from the intern to the queen must be elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 12 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said: She’s unelected. For a Brexiteer, everyone from the intern to the queen must be elected. That isnt true or correct , I dont know why you post such made-up nonsense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 People keep commenting on the fact that the Queen is unelected. Does anyone know of anywhere where royalty is elected???!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welovesundaysatspace Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, sanemax said: That isnt true or correct , I dont know why you post such made-up nonsense Are you saying you’re applying double-standards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, HHTel said: People keep commenting on the fact that the Queen is unelected. Does anyone know of anywhere where royalty is elected???!!! Andrew has a lot of elections, if you mean that...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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