SOUTHERNSTAR Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 45000 ? 555 !!! Sent from my SM-A730F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Seems like most of the recent "successes" have been people LEAVING Thailand. All eight of them. And now what? Keep them? Deport them? Bad guys in, bad guys stay. Didn't seem to prevent them from entering Thailand, with a real or fake passport, spending time here, procuring fake passports locally. The cynic in me assumes the local document producer, or thief, then rats out the client, making a bit of dosh on both ends? fake Greek passports they had bought for 50,000 Euros (1.7 million baht) in Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 44,900 most likely burmese laos cambodian etc tc etc who are in a totally different economic group to expats. Guess the labour shortage will now increase Thailand, well done watch, the price rise as factories cant find workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Croc Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, geronimo said: Not very long ... I believe that in developed countries, children will be chipped at birth and that will happen in the next 5 years. It's happening now in China. Check out their Social Credit System, and what they're doing with facial recognition. Every citizen is being tracked and categorized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, PattayaGuy2019 said: I don't understand this constant flaming of Thailand or anything it does Why? its pretty apparent to most people that almost everything they do is a major cockup, badly thought out, usually unnecessary, plainly stupid and not for the benefit of the Thais. But you don't understand it. That's what I don't understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Most of the overstayers could have been known about by simply checking the databases of today's date, the passport and the visa and visa or extension expiration date. If person has not left the country by time visa or extension has expired, a simple excel spreadsheet, access one database or whatever could query and find the open things. Biometrics can help spot many edge cases, but the basic over stay situation would be easy to check on if the entering and leaving dates and passport info was available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, petedk said: On Sept 11th 5 were arrested Sept 12th 3 arrested Sept 13 1 arrest Long long way to the 45,000 arrests. Who did the counting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chazar said: 44,900 most likely burmese laos cambodian etc tc etc who are in a totally different economic group to expats. Guess the labour shortage will now increase Thailand, well done watch, the price rise as factories cant find workers. Not at all there are many Thai people / family out of work, they often come to my house asking for money because they have no job, cigarettes yes drink yes car yes motorbike yes, but no money because cant find a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Old Croc said: It's happening now in China. Check out their Social Credit System, and what they're doing with facial recognition. Every citizen is being tracked and categorized. but can't compare China Communist / Dictatorship government VS a Thai FREE democratically elected government 555 (sarcasm intended) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chazar said: Why? its pretty apparent to most people that almost everything they do is a major cockup, badly thought out, usually unnecessary, plainly stupid and not for the benefit of the Thais. But you don't understand it. That's what I don't understand Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, petedk said: On Sept 11th 5 were arrested Sept 12th 3 arrested Sept 13 1 arrest Long long way to the 45,000 arrests. To be fair he didn't say 45,000 arrests, he said 45,000 were checked and found to be overstaying. I suspect most of these would be Cambodians, Burmese etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, tlandtday said: give it a few months as the real criminals will figure out a way around all of this and it will be back to square one... Everybody has the right to there own view but when you have seen the going on over the years it us difficult to think anything other than scepticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 No math in this story makes senses. More like random numbers that looks "cool". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 50 minutes ago, PattayaGuy2019 said: People on this site are always bashing Thailand, yes it's not perfect by far but it has some good points. You talk as if it's the worst country in the world lol I don't understand this constant flaming of Thailand or anything it does. I think this scanner is a good thing so stop bad mouthing it. It helps keep the doggy people out and that is a good thing. But you people constantly ridicule and make fun of Thailand, sure it's funny to start with but please change the the record everything you say is a so negative. I would judge from some of the ridiculous comments posted, people making the posts don't even live in Thailand, you just use this site to sound off your bigoted ignorant views that are so toxic. YOU ARE NOT FUNNY GET A LIFE When there's so information coming from the Thai authorites that is pure BS it's no wonder that we "bash" Thailand. The TAT are a case in point. On this occasion the figures DO add up IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inepto Cracy Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, petedk said: On Sept 11th 5 were arrested Sept 12th 3 arrested Sept 13 1 arrest Long long way to the 45,000 arrests. Maybe he attended the same maths school that Jacob Zuma, ex south african president did? I wonder if the number of people caught was not eleventy seven seven persons instead of the 45000 ? Maybe 45000 caught in the whole of China?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainNemo Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, geronimo said: Not very long ... I believe that in developed countries, children will be chipped at birth and that will happen in the next 5 years. Hardware is not required, simply a log of fundamental data... fingerprint, retina, DNA... things you can't change. It seems that Asian countries are quite enthusiastic about this. I went to Korea for work a couple of years ago, and was surprised to be finger scanned on the way in. Getting a business visa in Indonesia was a right work-up of scannings, but not at the creaky old airport desks; and then Thailand, this year, I was bit bemused. They're even scanning Thais, or is it just Thais with foreign passports? The response to this in the world of outlaws is to use other identities and less modern points of entry. I wonder where it's all heading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inepto Cracy Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Facial recognition eh? This is going to really put a stop to Thailand trying to be the hub bub of medical tourism. Facial surgery already caused major problems for Koreans returning from Thailand after face lifts, Botox and filler treatments. Also people with eye lens replacements are going to be caught out as these scanners cant recognise the lens implants, it blurs the retina scan. So plastic surgeons better start a new line of plastic surgery, on beach plastic sculpturing instead, 555. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Chelseafan said: When there's so information coming from the Thai authorites that is pure BS it's no wonder that we "bash" Thailand. The TAT are a case in point. On this occasion the figures DO add up IMHO. No it doesn't biometrics are at the borders and airport, if you enter thailand you can't be on overstay and if you leave thailand they check the date in your passport stamp since forever and charge you for overstays. Where the heck does biometrics even come into play here catching overstayers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Almer said: Not at all there are many Thai people / family out of work, they often come to my house asking for money because they have no job, cigarettes yes drink yes car yes motorbike yes, but no money because cant find a job. And yet when I advertise no Thais want to do the work I offer, on the land and this is repeated by other people I know also looking for workers on the land mostly all Thai land owners as the Thais are too lazy to do it, most want the money but really don't want any work at all. I've heard all this before I've even sent messages to the people saying this on this forum who said theyll ask in the village as "many there" looking for work, not one response, then finally had one guy send me his "hard workers" as he was leaving Thailand and he wanted to find them a new job, they were useless could hardly walk up the hill and we let them go after 1 month. Had one guy watch us cutting some brush back and Wife said do you want a job, he said he needed money but had now saw, ok we'll buy you one right now so you could do this............never saw him again. Before anyone chips in, its not about the money, minimums round here are 500 a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyL Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I wonder if we will ever see any figures to actually back up the 45,000 claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavCurtis Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 45k? This is hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, ThomasThBKK said: No it doesn't biometrics are at the borders and airport, if you enter thailand you can't be on overstay and if you leave thailand they check the date in your passport stamp since forever and charge you for overstays. Where the heck does biometrics even come into play here catching overstayers? I said the figures do add up, I'm not saying the 45000 were caught via biometrics. The majority of overstayers are caught when leaving. Who's to say that there aren't 45,000 overstayers every month pre-bio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totoandlilly Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 No place to hide ? You haven’t found me yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Dragon Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Mango Bob said: So do away with the damn TM 30 and use biometrics if it so good. apples and oranges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 and still, every time you go to an immigration office they want and need a s.hitload of papers... that you already got, over and over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturdyd Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, PattayaGuy2019 said: People on this site are always bashing Thailand, yes it's not perfect by far but it has some good points. You talk as if it's the worst country in the world lol I don't understand this constant flaming of Thailand or anything it does. I think this scanner is a good thing so stop bad mouthing it. It helps keep the doggy people out and that is a good thing. But you people constantly ridicule and make fun of Thailand, sure it's funny to start with but please change the the record everything you say is a so negative. I would judge from some of the ridiculous comments posted, people making the posts don't even live in Thailand, you just use this site to sound off your bigoted ignorant views that are so toxic. YOU ARE NOT FUNNY GET A LIFE Well, see, there are two Thailand's. (1) The fabulous people, wonderful scenery, great villages, fun parties, and on and on. And then there are (2) the lying idiots who run the place. I can certainly love one and hate the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard2010 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Most other countries have been using the Biometric System for yearsEven Malaysia has it Thailand is so far behind the rest of the world Pity they could not sort out there own Immigration mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, PattayaGuy2019 said: People on this site are always bashing Thailand, yes it's not perfect by far but it has some good points. You talk as if it's the worst country in the world lol I don't understand this constant flaming of Thailand or anything it does. I think this scanner is a good thing so stop bad mouthing it. It helps keep the doggy people out and that is a good thing. But you people constantly ridicule and make fun of Thailand, sure it's funny to start with but please change the the record everything you say is a so negative. I would judge from some of the ridiculous comments posted, people making the posts don't even live in Thailand, you just use this site to sound off your bigoted ignorant views that are so toxic. YOU ARE NOT FUNNY GET A LIFE Stick around, you'll get it, eventually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 3 hours ago, petedk said: On Sept 11th 5 were arrested Sept 12th 3 arrested Sept 13 1 arrest Long long way to the 45,000 arrests. the logistics of where and how they are being held i would like to read about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, sammieuk1 said: The only thing I see in the making Thailand look good is the now fully automated vinyl board assembly line the general pontificates over daily???? Would it surprise you to know that the RTP has it's own state run printing organisation. It's called the Police Printing Bureau. They probably make these huge heavy duty environment polluting vinyl banners along with all the other official and unofficial money making stationary they need for government and hop pocket revenue. Another interesting one is the Playing Cards Factory under the control of the Excise Department. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_enterprises_of_Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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