Isaan sailor Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Feel sorry for the young Thai ladies. Now with western tourists diminished, Chinese, Indian and Muslim tourists will take their place. And...they could become the future expats!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Bourne Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Went through Sampeng market last week. Traditionally one of the busiest tourist markets in Bangkok. Almost empty. Never seen that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Greenhill said: Why you no understand? They are 'arriving' but not 'touring'!!! These arrivals, arrive at the airport but then mysteriously disappear!!! They're all at the temples! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 hours ago, londonthai said: it's governments nationalistic, xenophobic attitude and policies, which drive off expats and, equally, long term tourists. the present growing statistics for arrivals are for chinese, indian, malaysian, who are coming for just few days of shopping. They might be coming several times per year and might be buying goods, but don't go to resorts, spas, tourist places With the baht as high as it is i,m surprised you haven,t got loads of this in London shopping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 It's not the over valued baht then...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsve Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Same same but different. If we look on what have come from this department the last weeks and put it together, what they say is, the number of tourists (including expats) is rising, but the number have going down and that is not Thailands fault, it is the word economy. I guess that there are some thai logic in there, but I am a farang and have not a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Sticky Wicket said: What on earth is wrong with this place! The clients I was with found it hard to believe. 5-year-olds (mentally that is), shooting themselves repeatedly into the foot, unable to grasp the consequences of their doing. Then, when it hurts, blaming anyone else. The kind of 'kid' that, over time, gets so annoying that you just want to abandon it at the next gas station, driving off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garbol56 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Saint Nick said: It's always someone else's fault! It's not the dirt, the violence, the traffic- deaths, the xenophobia or racism, the misogyny, the pollution, the non-sensical laws for smoking and beach chairs, the corrupt police, the overall unfriendlyness of the immigration at the 30% occupied airport- counters.... It's us - the rest of the world... Nick Mate, don't hold back, say it like it is. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippBKK Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 This a graph for Thailand's Tourism Arrivals! Even if less than 38M tourists will come in 2019 it is still the second highest figure ever. Thailand Tourism is not in trouble at all, but we probably will not see +5% annual increases and maybe even a little reduction, who knows. A bit of oversupply here and there, especially for some who wanted to cash in on the Chinese Tour Group segment maybe. How is this 15 year period a failure and how is there doom and gloom? Where do you guys get your information from? The decline of the Western tourist? Less girlie bars? Can't drink at 3pm? Who cares? Whingers...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, curlylekan said: Stupid law, do you mean the hours that they won't serve alcohol? I thought this was only if you wanted to buy it at the store, not a restaurant or a bar. Am I wrong? And why was it brought in? It was in Central World BKK, no alcohol in the restaurants between 2 and 5! Also happened to me in Bluport Hua Hin I'm not a massive drinker by any means but I do enjoy beer/wine with food. I hate water and sugary drinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoast Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 7 hours ago, madmitch said: But I thought arrivals were up!!! Yes, but that was yesterday, or is it tomorrow!!!, cant remember!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck holmes Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Tayaout said: There we go again! Every country should govern itself .No because China no longer needs the u.s.dollar for it's country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsve Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, PhilippBKK said: This a graph for Thailand's Tourism Arrivals! Even if less than 38M tourists will come in 2019 it is still the second highest figure ever. Thailand Tourism is not in trouble at all, but we probably will not see +5% annual increases and maybe even a little reduction, who knows. A bit of oversupply here and there, especially for some who wanted to cash in on the Chinese Tour Group segment maybe. How is this 15 year period a failure and how is there doom and gloom? Where do you guys get your information from? The decline of the Western tourist? Less girlie bars? Can't drink at 3pm? Who cares? Whingers...... Maybe, just maybe it is because we over the time has learned that all those charts and numbers are all fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 7 hours ago, jackdd said: But a few days ago they just announced that the numbers are up, so what are they talking about? Talking thru' the rear orifice as usual, nothing has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, PhilippBKK said: Where do you guys get your information from? From a top official at the Thai Ministry for Tourism and Sports Did you bother to read the op? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, PhilippBKK said: This a graph for Thailand's Tourism Arrivals! Even if less than 38M tourists will come in 2019 it is still the second highest figure ever. Thailand Tourism is not in trouble at all, but we probably will not see +5% annual increases and maybe even a little reduction, who knows. A bit of oversupply here and there, especially for some who wanted to cash in on the Chinese Tour Group segment maybe. How is this 15 year period a failure and how is there doom and gloom? Where do you guys get your information from? The decline of the Western tourist? Less girlie bars? Can't drink at 3pm? Who cares? Whingers...... And you believe it? 38 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said: Feel sorry for the young Thai ladies. Now with western tourists diminished, Chinese, Indian and Muslim tourists will take their place. And...they could become the future expats!! That's OK, provided they fill in and lodge all the TM forms, so no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRToMRT Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Its the world's fault not ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablosbmb Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Saint Nick said: It's always someone else's fault! It's not the dirt, the violence, the traffic- deaths, the xenophobia or racism, the misogyny, the pollution, the non-sensical laws for smoking and beach chairs, the corrupt police, the overall unfriendlyness of the immigration at the 30% occupied airport- counters.... It's us - the rest of the world... Smarten up rest of the world jeez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 When I saw the title I knew what I'd be reading here and sure enough, ha!. Now I have a problem. What with the recent immigration issues and this tourism 'up..' 'got woes..' etc. thing, I just don't know which thread to comment on all this confusion. ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddox41 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 If your a cashed up thai it is the perfect time to travel... I love the Asian thinking blame everyone else you can think off instead of yourself. Its like its run by a group of z gens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Going to be a few more kids named Supaporn Singh and Tittiporn Wang knocking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Wicket Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, maddox41 said: If your a cashed up thai it is the perfect time to travel... I love the Asian thinking blame everyone else you can think off instead of yourself. Its like its run by a group of z gens. I've heard Germany is nice at this time of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 hours ago, wisperone said: Shhhh….How can those things exist in paradise... With Les Majeste almost anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 8 hours ago, jackdd said: But a few days ago they just announced that the numbers are up, so what are they talking about? and since when TAT can be trusted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 7 hours ago, worgeordie said: It's always somebody or somethings fault,never Thailand, do they not see its the strong THB, compared to other countries in the area.......that's the main thing,but there are others. regards Worgeordie am with you but we may be the only 2 seeing it as it is, Thai officials keep saying it's something else, the only way to get it into their brain(s) it would be by inserting a chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teacherduck Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Nothing to do with the "inflated" Thai Baht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavideol Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Dario said: Oh yeah! World economy ... of course. we should be happy they didn't blame it on the aliens/martians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 5 hours ago, spidermike007 said: No, no, no, no, no. Thailand is to blame for Thailand's tourism woes. This was self inflicted. It is typical of these small people in the administration to deflect, and refuse to take responsibility for problems of their own creation. That is so inane, and weak on their part. The high baht is only part of the problem. Brexit and other factors is a small part of this catastrophe facing the nation here. As stated previously, these are just a few ways Thailand shot itself in the foot, when it comes to tourism. Thailand thought the country was something very special, and was he center of the known universe, and that nobody would ever say no, or find alternative places to visit. The fact is that there are countless other spots, many in this region, that offer better service, more expertise in food and beverage (especially wine service and selection at fair prices, which rich tourists demand), reasonable import duties to sustain a luxury goods market, better training, and far better english skills. Thailand simply lost sight of the big picture, and had very little vision, with regard to big spending tourists, who need to be catered to, instead of scorned. There are countless things the government could be doing, if they wanted to attract the high quality tourists. The very first thing would be to repeal the anti fareng wine bill, that was passed by a few very corrupt senators way back when, to protect an anemic and truly pathetic local wine industry. They are losing billions of dollars a year in revenue, that could be had from a 100% wine duty, instead of over 300%. The five star hotels would have major wine events, and the entire industry would flourish here. If you are a rich tourist, spending $600 a night at the Banyan Tree in Bangkok, it is difficult to even find someone to have an intelligent conversation with, about the intricacies, the best vintages, and the qualities of the wine you want to order, here in Thailand. The expertise in F & B is really lacking. Same applies to luxury tax. If it were reasonable, Thailand would be able to attract rich tourists from around the world, who want to spend $25,000 on luxury goods, while on vacation. Will they buy a Prada handbag here for $16,000, that costs $5,000 in Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau, London, New York, Paris, Rome, Milan, Monaco, Prague, Moscow, Istanbul, or Dubai? Of course not. What will they do? They will choose any one of those spots, and others for vacation, and Thailand will never even be discussed. Sorry to say, but the high spending tourists are lost for good. They WILL NOT come back to Thailand, for a dozen different reasons. Where have I read that before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mavideol said: am with you but we may be the only 2 seeing it as it is, Thai officials keep saying it's something else, the only way to get it into their brain(s) it would be by inserting a chip Don't go over-board, potato chip should be sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, emptypockets said: Where have I read that before? Does it matter, the facts don't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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