rooster59 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 UK Labour deputy leader survives bid to oust him over Brexit By Costas Pitas and Elizabeth Piper FILE PHOTO: Britain's Deputy Leader of the Labour Party Tom Watson arrives at Labour's National Executive Committee meeting, in London, Britain April 30, 2019. REUTERS/Toby Melville/File Photo LONDON/ BRIGHTON, England (Reuters) - The deputy leader of Britain's Labour Party survived an attempt to oust him over Brexit on Saturday after party chief Jeremy Corbyn moved to defuse a row that threatened to overshadow the party's bid to show it was ready for power. Holding its annual party conference just weeks before Prime Minister Boris Johnson has promised "do or die" to lead Britain out of the European Union, Labour was keen to set out its agenda for government rather than put its Brexit divisions on display. But a move by Corbyn ally Jon Lansman, founder of the left-wing grassroots movement Momentum, to propose a motion to abolish the deputy's post because of disloyalty over Brexit threatened to derail those plans. The attempt underlined the deep divisions in Britain's main opposition party over Brexit, rifts that have also fractured the governing Conservative Party and have cast doubt over when, how or whether Brexit will take place on Oct. 31. Deputy leader Tom Watson, who has often criticised Corbyn, described the attempt as "a drive-by shooting" after he challenged the Labour leader's position on Brexit and suggested a second referendum should be held before any new election. A Labour source said Corbyn, who backs an election first, had intervened just as the party gathered for the annual conference in the seaside resort of Brighton. "Jeremy Corbyn proposed that the motion not go to a vote and instead that there be a review of the position of deputy leader and other positions in support of the leader," the source said. BLINDSIDE The motion, which appeared to blindside Corbyn's team, had provoked criticism from Labour figures, including London Mayor Sadiq Khan, as Britain heads towards a possible parliamentary election to unlock the Brexit impasse. "We must focus on fighting against Boris Johnson & his catastrophic no-deal Brexit, not each other," Khan tweeted. An opinion poll on Saturday showed Labour trailing the Conservatives 22% to 37%. Britain's decision to back leaving the EU in a 2016 referendum has divided not only the country's main political parties, but its towns and cities and often families. More than three years on, little is clear on how Brexit will happen. Johnson has said he will take Britain out of the bloc on Oct. 31 with or without a deal to smooth the country's biggest trade and foreign policy shift for more than 40 years. Labour, and other opposition parties, have tried to prevent him from being able to stage a potentially damaging no-deal Brexit, refusing to back his call for a new election until the prospect of leaving without an agreement is taken off the table. Labour said in a draft statement on Brexit that if the party won power, it would "get Brexit sorted one way or another within six months of coming to power". The statement, yet to be agreed at the conference in Brighton, sets out that a Labour government would "secure a sensible leave deal with the EU within three months, and within six months would put it before the people in a referendum alongside the option to remain." The Mirror newspaper late on Saturday cited Corbyn as saying a public vote would happen in June were Labour to win an election this year but he declined to say how he would vote. "I'll let you know at the time," he said. (Reporting by Costas Pitas and Elizabeth Piper, Editing by Giles Elgood and Rosalba O'Brien) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-22 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Seems to be damned whatever he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 And as a result they will play 'identity politics' and have one male and one female deputy leader. Why not three LBGT? or 4 coloured? what about the disabled? or Christian or Muslim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, rooster59 said: The deputy leader of Britain's Labour Party survived an attempt to oust him over Brexit on Saturday after party chief Jeremy Corbyn moved to defuse a row that threatened to overshadow the party's bid to show it was ready for power. Kicked into touch... Corbyn proposed a review, to move it off the agenda, to much bad publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 55 minutes ago, Basil B said: Kicked into touch... Corbyn proposed a review, to move it off the agenda, to much bad publicity. Yep. His handlers are getting much more media savvy! He said he never interfered with such matters the day before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 With Corbyn the National Traitor and the Dimwitted Abbott at the Helm the Labour Party will NEVER be ready for power ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokie Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Diane Abbott? ???????????????? bent as a Nine bob note, can not add up 2+2= err 6? Went MIA last general election when they needed her out there, could not be found for over a week which is surprising as she normally loves being in the limelight talking B S telling UK what we all need, every time the woman opens her mouth you realise why Labour will never get in power, heaven forbid Jezza and his lefty loons got the keys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Seems to be damned whatever he does. Corbyn has been a liability from Day 1. Embarrassing how Tom Watson has been treated.Sent from my SM-N935F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 And more fireworks to come... Seems yesterday in some backroom they have cobbled together a motion on Brexit to be voted for today... Should be interesting, how do you word a none committal party motion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebee Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Basil B said: And more fireworks to come... Seems yesterday in some backroom they have cobbled together a motion on Brexit to be voted for today... Should be interesting, how do you word a none committal party motion? I thought they'd now cobbled together two motions? One supporting remain, one neutral. Which means they will both be voted on, and conceivably both be passed, leaving Labour with two Brexit policies ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, tebee said: I thought they'd now cobbled together two motions? One supporting remain, one neutral. Which means they will both be voted on, and conceivably both be passed, leaving Labour with two Brexit policies ... Their must be a third motion then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/22/2019 at 4:50 AM, Basil B said: Kicked into touch... Corbyn proposed a review, to move it off the agenda, to much bad publicity. The motion was proposed by Momentum and Jon Lansman, Labour's answer to Dominic Cummings. Can't see why they can't rename the Labour Party as Momentum as they now have total control of the party. Gone are the days when the Labour Party represented the views of the ordinary working man. No party represents us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, DannyCarlton said: The motion was proposed by Momentum and Jon Lansman, Labour's answer to Dominic Cummings. Can't see why they can't rename the Labour Party as Momentum as they now have total control of the party. Gone are the days when the Labour Party represented the views of the ordinary working man. No party represents us now. I suppose you could now call the Conservative party the ERG as well both parties taken over by extremists. On the Brexit motion(s) the conference was to have debated today seems Corbyn is also intending to get them deferred until after the GE... Quote Jeremy Corbyn is facing a clash with party members tomorrow over his plan to postpone a vote on what stance the party should adopt in a referendum on Brexit until after the general election. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/sep/22/labour-conference-latest-news-jeremy-corbyn-calls-for-party-to-have-two-deputy-leaders-live-news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Basil B said: On the Brexit motion(s) the conference was to have debated today seems Corbyn is also intending to get them deferred until after the GE... Corbyn is a Brexiteer. The Labour Party is pro Remain (the main reason Lansman tried to oust Tom Watson, a remainer). I can only speculate on Lansman's plan (Corbyn is just his puppet) re the GE. They seem hell bent on losing the election, possibly so that they don't need to back remain and Brexit gets pushed through. Level headed Labour MPs (like Watson) advocate listening to Labour voters, 65% of whom voted remain and undoubtedly the figure is higher than that now, and holding a confirmatory vote before the GE. Lansman advocates having the GE first, renegotiating the exit agreement and then holding a confirmatory vote, to which he won't commit to campaigning for Remain or Brexit. All very Machiavellian and designed to force the UK to leave the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyCarlton Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, Basil B said: On the Brexit motion(s) the conference was to have debated today seems Corbyn is also intending to get them deferred until after the GE... This is exactly whay he did at last year's party conference by deeming them as not a priority and pushing them down the list. More difficult this year as there are a much greater number of Brexit motions submitted by the CLPs and would be difficult to push them all down the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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