Eu Visa!

[Nazz]

Hi guys

A few people in the chat told me to make a topic and share some of the info they found interesting

I left Thai in early 2002.

My sister recently left Thai and went to a country in the EU (france) with help from [an immigration consultancy], filled a assessment form and they told her what she needs to do and everything.

Anyway now that she's there, she's having a problem with finding work.

She has a PhD in computer science related topic and so on.

But they only employ locals for some reason although that didnt seem to be the case when we asked everyone and so on.

Wondering what that's all about?

Any info or tips or anything that would help would be greatly appresiated

Edited March 22, 2007 by the scouser
url of immigration consultancy removed

[the scouser]

What visa does she have? If it's a visit visa, she won't be allowed to work, anyway.

Scouse.

[Nazz]

It's a family Visa Scouse

[the scouser]

Is she the dependant of a citizen of an EU country other than France, but who lives in France? If so, she can work and there wouldn't be any immigration issues arising from it. It is then solely a matter of why she can't find work, and there are so many different factors which could influence this that it's not really possible to comment.

Scouse.

[Nazz]

Thank you for your fast reply.

First, no she is not a cit. of any EU country, i'll go in detail and personal retail to maybe clarify somethings

She is my sister of my biological parents.

Me and my step father moved out of Thai.

When My mother passed away, my sister wanted to come hence the family visa she applied for and help she got from the immigrationc service i said about before.

Anyway hse's having problems finding a job not because she is not qualified.

I just wanted to ask and maybe get ideas to why this was the case is all

[kratindaeng]

Thank you for your fast reply.

First, no she is not a cit. of any EU country, i'll go in detail and personal retail to maybe clarify somethings

She is my sister of my biological parents.

Me and my step father moved out of Thai.

When My mother passed away, my sister wanted to come hence the family visa she applied for and help she got from the immigrationc service i said about before.

Anyway hse's having problems finding a job not because she is not qualified.

I just wanted to ask and maybe get ideas to why this was the case is all

....Shes not qualified? but you said she has a phd in computer science? I'm afraid to say your post is full of questions marks.

[Nazz]

Who said she was not qualified?

and my posting is full of question marks?

as in not enough data given or what exactly?

Again, all i ask for is info 'if' someone knows the answer to the reason as to why the job issue is at hand, nothing more really...

Thank you anyway

Edit - i nderstand what you mean now

I said "NOT' because she is not qualified, meaning she is, but that is not the reason as to why she is having difficulty finding a job.

Hope that's better

Sorry for the poor way i posted that lol

Edited March 22, 2007 by Nazz

[Chris.B]

Maybe in France, if she wants to get a job with her PhD, prospective employers would like her to be fluent in French??

[Nazz]

Right true Chris, but most of the companies are international based in france? so i dont think in her profession that is as important?

She is fluent in english however.

the gent, i asked a fellow friend here what you mean by troll, and i assure you, im just here to ask and learn more

If you don't have an answetr to what i asked, please, dont feel obligated to post anything in reply, and please, dont accuse me of something i'm not.

I believe as a member much older thanmyself to these forums you have read and agreed to the rules set by these forums.

(im sorry for linking to an outside source lol i did read the rules once it was removed to learn more.)

However...

Do not post inflammatory messages on the forum, or any attempt to disrupt discussions to upset its participants. The word, or its derivative, "trolling", is used to describe such messages or the act of posting them.

So with your post, simply shows your intentions were not to help me in any wya, instead stop others from helping me.

Please, if you have nothing constructive to say don't in my thread, or i will report it. I have as much right to be here and post as you do.

Otherwise, please feel free to inlighten me if you know more about the topic at hand, in my first post.

Thank you

[kayo]

Thank you for your fast reply.

First, no she is not a cit. of any EU country, i'll go in detail and personal retail to maybe clarify somethings

She is my sister of my biological parents.

Me and my step father moved out of Thai.

When My mother passed away, my sister wanted to come hence the family visa she applied for and help she got from the immigrationc service i said about before.

Anyway hse's having problems finding a job not because she is not qualified.

I just wanted to ask and maybe get ideas to why this was the case is all

Who said she was not qualified?

and my posting is full of question marks?

as in not enough data given or what exactly?

Again, all i ask for is info 'if' someone knows the answer to the reason as to why the job issue is at hand, nothing more really...

Thank you anyway

Edit - i nderstand what you mean now

I said "NOT' because she is not qualified, meaning she is, but that is not the reason as to why she is having difficulty finding a job.

Hope that's better

Sorry for the poor way i posted that lol

Qualified can mean so many things though:

Educated?

Okay, so maybe she's educated in the right field. But how many others are too.. Being a student is what almost every kid of the last thirty years has been... Maybe the company doesn't want another drone, who is educated the same as thousands of other drones. Maybe they want somebody who has worked in the industry before.

or maybe Qualified can mean Experience?

Okay, so in this case, she has experience. Maybe there are plenty of other experienced people out there. Maybe better experienced? Maybe the company does now want a drone, and your sister is over qualified.

I've got a problem getting a job and even a bank account in my OWN country (UK) because I've been away a long time, and most of western europe has in recent years, become very wary of people who are not "of them", as I appear to be.

then there are so many factors that could be the case. I'm in my late twenties, with experience and job experiences that would put most people to shame, but now it looks like I may have to work at tesco's or something... in my own country!

[H2oDunc]

NAZZ, it is notoriously hard to get a job in France. Even for French people as it is very hard to get rid of you if you are no good or the job ends. Your sisters best bet would be to try to get to the UK where finding a job is much easier. If your sister has good qualifications then she should have no pproblems there. Good luck to her.

[topdjdel]

Surprised they work at all in france.

they always seem to be on strike!! creating havoc in the uk as a result(m20 motorway)

Garlic

delboy

[BIGJIMMY]

Mousier Topdjdel, these is no need for be like this yes, we are all Euro brothers no, I feel you are hate the French for what, maybe you have a bad time there 1 time erh - wee?

Merci

Big Jaime

[Bisto]

Surprised they work at all in france.

they always seem to be on strike!! creating havoc in the uk as a result(m20 motorway)

Garlic

delboy

quite correct Big Jimmy we are all members of the EU

[BIGJIMMY]

Praise the lord and all who sail in him, brother AAARRHH Bisto has agreed with thine, hear ye hear ye fellow Euro brothers of France and any other funny speaking people near by - Bonjour Ce va?

Au Revoiur

Grande Jimmy

[the scouser]

Grande Jimmy

I wouldn't rely on speaking French for a living, James. Perhaps unwittingly, you've succeeded in converting yourself into a woman.

Scouse.

[BIGJIMMY]

Ha ha, wee wee no.

Ta Scouse.

Hows your French by the way?

Jimmy

[jpc8685]

Ok, so here is what I think about it.

I am Belgian and worked in France a while.

You have to be aware that:

1. France has a lot of very qualified people graduated from famous schools. Thats why alot of French people can go work abroad, and it is well known that foreign companies come to french universities to "book" the next graduates.

2. It is a hassle for a french company to employ non EU citicens because of the paperwork.

3. Of course they want some person who is able to speak french because usualy you will have to communicate with other people.

4. I am working here in Thailand and look all year long for some qualified IT people. I give the candidates some first year exercices to do and most of them can not answer 50% of the questions. You have to admit that the education level is quit poor in most universities, so I am not sure they have a good reputation abroad.

Anyway... good luck to her, but with all the french people who are jobless I think it will be hard.

[flyer]

Hi Nazz,

As i understand your sis has a residence visa based on family re-union. It is not clear if this is a visa for FRANCE or one for EU ... if the visa does not clearlt mention that it is EU then it is a restricted French one which means that your sis cannot travel freely to other EU countries and surely NOT to the UK which requires always a specific visa. But she should be able to get a EU or UK visa locally from the legal instancies in case.

However, in any European country a residence visa DOES NOT allow for paid work , eg employment unless it is clearly specified on it that you are allowed unrestrcited work in the country that issued the visa. Again you can obtain a work permit from the french (or other instancies) in europe, however that would be quite difficult to obtain, certainly in France, more easy in Germany, UK and Netherlands.

Besides, in France there is a general requirement to speak french to find any type of employement. Even if you work in an international or American company, there is a requirement by law in France that the 'vehicular' laguage (= langueage in use) should be French.

Good lick anyway

[abdulrahman]

Hi guys

A few people in the chat told me to make a topic and share some of the info they found interesting

I left Thai in early 2002.

My sister recently left Thai and went to a country in the EU (france) with help from [an immigration consultancy], filled a assessment form and they told her what she needs to do and everything.

Anyway now that she's there, she's having a problem with finding work.

She has a PhD in computer science related topic and so on.

But they only employ locals for some reason although that didnt seem to be the case when we asked everyone and so on.

Wondering what that's all about?

Any info or tips or anything that would help would be greatly appresiated

The PhD in computer science from a Thai Uni is NOT recognaized in the EU.

She cannot speak French,of course.

She thinks that the french should be happy with that and should give ner a good paid job.

She is of course right,this happens in Thailand to every farang!