Corbyn says priority is preventing no-deal Brexit

[vogie]

4 minutes ago, blazes said:

 

Here is the next PM after Boris resigns (as he honourably must since he has told us that if he doesn't get the UK out by Oct 31, he'd rather die in a ditch.

Geoffrey Cox would be a very worthy successor.

 

I agree, Oliver Cromwell would have been proud of the speech he gave.

[welovesundaysatspace]

3 hours ago, vogie said:

A second referendum that parliament have openly said they would not honour unless remain won, democracy remainer style, brilliant.

Parliament didn’t say that. Please stop spreading false information. 

[flossie35]

14 hours ago, kingdong said:

Sounds like corbyns bottled it again regarding a general election.

No it doesn't. The buffoon is trying to con people into letting him pursue his leave on 31/10 with or without a deal plan. JC is wisely not playing that game.

[vogie]

21 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Parliament didn’t say that. Please stop spreading false information. 

I have news for you, the Greens and the Lib/Dems belong to parliament, it is not "false information" just because you say it is, anyone who calls for a second referendum wants to stifle the first referendum.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Now away with your nonsense, I'm not interested.

[flossie35]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

I have news for you, the Greens and the Lib/Dems belong to parliament, it is not "false information" just because you say it is, anyone who calls for a second referendum wants to stifle the first referendum.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Now away with your nonsense, I'm not interested.

Those who keep going on about "the will of the people" - really just "the advice of the people" given the nature of the referendum - should not be afraid of asking the current electorate what their advice is.

[vogie]

23 minutes ago, flossie35 said:

Those who keep going on about "the will of the people" - really just "the advice of the people" given the nature of the referendum - should not be afraid of asking the current electorate what their advice is.

Nobody is afraid of anything, only the losers.

[welovesundaysatspace]

33 minutes ago, vogie said:

I have news for you, the Greens and the Lib/Dems belong to parliament, it is not "false information" just because you say it is, anyone who calls for a second referendum wants to stifle the first referendum.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Now away with your nonsense, I'm not interested.

You didn’t say “the Greens and the Lib/Dems”, you clearly claimed “the parliament” has stated it would ignore a new referendum. That’s a lie. 

 

 

[tomacht8]

Parliament voted against the No Deal Brexit by a majority vote twice. The PM has to follow this result. In my understanding, the parliament is the sovereign. If the PM does not want to follow this, he should resign.

The next logical step would now be to work on an orderly and timely, realistic Brexit.

[David in the north]

12 hours ago, fishtank said:

Sounds like Corbyn is doing a great job at stopping a damaging no deal brexit.

Good man.

Rubbish. He knows full well an election will destroy him & his now useless party

[David in the north]

19 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

Parliament voted against the No Deal Brexit by a majority vote twice. The PM has to follow this result. In my understanding, the parliament is the sovereign. If the PM does not want to follow this, he should resign.

The next logical step would now be to work on an orderly and timely, realistic Brexit.

You mean like the useless non entities have been doing for over three years?

[vogie]

23 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

You didn’t say “the Greens and the Lib/Dems”, you clearly claimed “the parliament” has stated it would ignore a new referendum. That’s a lie. 

Just to make it clear to you as you seem to be hankering for an arguement.

 

When I said parliament that is exactly what I meant, at least the Lib/Dems and the Greens have been openly honest about saying that they would not honour another referendum if leave won again. But this brings us to the other duplicitious MPs like Grieve, Soubry, Cooper and Letwing, Benn and all the other deceitful MPs who cannot be honest with themselves or the electorate for that matter, these people want to stymie Brexit and have no interest in democracy whatsoever.

So you don't need a political degree to see this, it is parliament!

 

And when you start calling my posts lies, it is the end of our conversation, don't forget what Socrates said "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.

 

 

[welovesundaysatspace]

10 minutes ago, vogie said:

Just to make it clear to you as you seem to be hankering for an arguement.

 

When I said parliament that is exactly what I meant, at least the Lib/Dems and the Greens have been openly honest about saying that they would not honour another referendum if leave won again. But this brings us to the other duplicitious MPs like Grieve, Soubry, Cooper and Letwing, Benn and all the other deceitful MPs who cannot be honest with themselves or the electorate for that matter, these people want to stymie Brexit and have no interest in democracy whatsoever.

So you don't need a political degree to see this, it is parliament!

 

And when you start calling my posts lies, it is the end of our conversation, don't forget what Socrates said "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.

 

 

If you don’t want to be called a liar, don’t lie. It’s that simple. You claimed parliament said something it never did. Now you admit it was only two minority parties. 

 

You lied and I’m calling you out for that. And as long as you and other Brexiteers keep lying, you better not cite Socrates and talk about how to have a debate. 

Edited September 26, 2019 by welovesundaysatspace

[vogie]

4 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

If you don’t want to be called a liar, don’t lie. It’s that simple. You claimed parliament said something it never did. Now you admit it was only two minority parties. 

 

You lied and I’m calling you out for that. And as long as you and other Brexiteers keep lying, you better not cite Socrates and talk about how to have a debate. 

I can assure you that if I required a masterclass in debating (or democracy for that matter) remainers would be the last people I would ask.

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

I can assure you that if I required a masterclass in debating (or democracy for that matter) remainers would be the last people I would ask.

You require a masterclass in sticking to the truth. 

[vogie]

Just now, welovesundaysatspace said:

You require a masterclass in sticking to the truth. 

You have lost the debate, there is no need for playground behaviour.

[tomacht8]

26 minutes ago, David in the north said:

You mean like the useless non entities have been doing for over three years?

What is the alternative?

Considering that the no deal brexit has no majority and you want to fulfill the Brexit referendum from 2016.

Edited September 26, 2019 by tomacht8

[JonnyF]

Corbyn hasn't got the stones for an election, he knows he'd lose.

 

He could easily pass a law to mandate the date of the election for before Brexit, but he'd rather pretend that the reason for not having the election is because Johnson would take us out first. Not only cowardly then, but dishonest. Oh, and he's a Leaver pretending to be a Remainer, with no coherent policy on Brexit. What a mess.

[welovesundaysatspace]

16 minutes ago, vogie said:

You have lost the debate, there is no need for playground behaviour.

 ...says the one who’s just been caught spreading lies ???? 

[Thingamabob]

His priority is avoiding a general election which he knows he will lose by a landslide.

[Basil B]

18 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

If Johnson really wanted an election as much as he pretends, he could just ask the EU for an extension and all parties would happily agree to an election. It’s pretty clear it’s just another of his scams. 

As much as it sounds a good idea, it is up to Boris to request, if Corbyn went knocking on doors in Europe they would not even offer him a cup of tea...

 

Anyway what is the Labour Parties official stance on Brexit? It seems they have more positions on brexit than the Kama Sutra has on sex.

[welovesundaysatspace]

8 minutes ago, Basil B said:

As much as it sounds a good idea, it is up to Boris to request, if Corbyn went knocking on doors in Europe they would not even offer him a cup of tea...

Yes, that’s why I wrote “Johnson” and not “Corbyn”. He can request an extension now and I’m pretty sure parliament including Corbyn would agree to an election. Johnson could even trigger a confidence vote if he was really that interested in an election. It’s all just a big farce; a typical Johnson scam. 

 

 

 

Edited September 26, 2019 by welovesundaysatspace

[billd766]

14 hours ago, baboon said:

Fair enough. But who would you support? Where do we go from here?

Buggered if I know who to support, let alone which way to go.

 

Perhaps Rebecca Pow from Taunton Deane might hack it. (Though she is my MP, I only voted for her just to keep the Lib/Dems out).

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Corbyn hasn't got the stones for an election, he knows he'd lose.

 

He could easily pass a law to mandate the date of the election for before Brexit, but he'd rather pretend that the reason for not having the election is because Johnson would take us out first. Not only cowardly then, but dishonest. Oh, and he's a Leaver pretending to be a Remainer, with no coherent policy on Brexit. What a mess.

Johnson could easily get an extension and parliament including Corbyn would happily agree to an election. It’s pretty clear that Johnson is the one who doesn’t want an election and is just trying to use it to force through a no-deal Brexit. One of his pathetic scam attempts; everyone can see it. 

[Basil B]

2 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Yes, that’s why I wrote “Johnson” and not “Corbyn”. He can request an extension now and I’m pretty sure parliament including Corbyn would agree to an election. Johnson could even trigger a confidence vote if he was really that interested in an election. It’s all just a big farce; a typical Johnson scam. 

 

 

 

Whoops... Too early for me.

[Thingamabob]

4 hours ago, SheungWan said:

All these Hard Brexiteer distractions and deflections. All with one purpose in mind and that is to stop no-deal running into the ground. Make silly predictions, make things up, throw mud around, have a mini tantrum; its all second rate effort to drag others away from the main prize. And there is one thing standing in their way: loss of Parliamentary majority. Cannot go through it, cannot get past it. Loss of control of Parliamentary business. Its making them mad. Enjoy the show.

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What a load of nonsense. Get to know the subject better.

[Thingamabob]

2 hours ago, David in the north said:

Rubbish. He knows full well an election will destroy him & his now useless party

100% correct. He will lose by a landslide.

[Thingamabob]

3 hours ago, flossie35 said:

No it doesn't. The buffoon is trying to con people into letting him pursue his leave on 31/10 with or without a deal plan. JC is wisely not playing that game.

Wrong. Corbyn bottled it again.

[welovesundaysatspace]

4 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Wrong. Corbyn bottled it again.

Corbyn made clear his priority is preventing a no-deal Brexit. His actions are aligned with his priorities. 

 

Johnson claims he wants an election.  But he’s refusing to get an extension which would easily get him his election. He’s clearly the one who’s playing games. Nothing new here. 

[Jip99]

Just now, welovesundaysatspace said:

Corbyn made clear his priority is preventing a no-deal Brexit. His actions are aligned with his priorities. 

 

Johnson claims he wants an election.  But he’s refusing to get an extension which would easily get him his election. He’s clearly the one who’s playing games. Nothing new here. 

 

 

You are dreaming if you think Corbyn's credibility is higher than Boris'.

 

Labour are currently enelectable, Corbyn knows it and that is why done an enormous U turn.

 

No bottle indeed.

[billd766]

4 hours ago, blazes said:

 

Here is the next PM after Boris resigns (as he honourably must since he has told us that if he doesn't get the UK out by Oct 31, he'd rather die in a ditch.

Geoffrey Cox would be a very worthy successor.

 

 

I gave up watching this video simply because it was worse than 4 year old children at a kindergarten.

 

We pay over £70,000 a year plus perks for each of them, and this is the way they act?