SURVEY: How serious is the plastic problem?

[worrab]

15 hours ago, hugocnx said:

I beg to not believe those bags are really bio-degradable as one of our posters used to point out many times.

Many such bags may brake down to smaller particles but still stay plastic. Stupid in fact as they cannot be re-used ?!

They are marked up as Plastic Virgin Grade A OXO Biodegradable.

In general if we use oxo biodegradable plastic, we will be able to reduce landfills since we will no longer need them. After degrading, the soil absorbs the oxo biodegradable products.

And this form of plastic can be re-used.

[hugocnx]

12 minutes ago, worrab said:

They are marked up as Plastic Virgin Grade A OXO Biodegradable.

In general if we use oxo biodegradable plastic, we will be able to reduce landfills since we will no longer need them. After degrading, the soil absorbs the oxo biodegradable products.

And this form of plastic can be re-used.

Thanks for reply. Now the solution for plastic is already there one might say or does the process take too long?

So why ban plastics if there is a solution?. Price? Progressive push? Sheep's behavior?

[HHTel]

37 minutes ago, worrab said:

They are marked up as Plastic Virgin Grade A OXO Biodegradable.

In general if we use oxo biodegradable plastic, we will be able to reduce landfills since we will no longer need them. After degrading, the soil absorbs the oxo biodegradable products.

And this form of plastic can be re-used.

So very not true and countries are implementing measures to ban or restrict oxo biodegradable products.

 

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Oxo-degradable plastics quickly fragment into smaller and smaller pieces, called microplastics, but don’t break down at the molecular or polymer level like biodegradable and compostable plastics. The resulting microplastics are left in the environment indefinitely until they eventually fully break down.

 

[briansbiology]

Thailand is full of plastic:

Bags

wrappers

ti,ttys

noses

government....

 

[worrab]

3 hours ago, HHTel said:

3 hours ago, HHTel said:

Oxo-degradable plastics quickly fragment into smaller and smaller pieces, called microplastics, but don’t break down at the molecular or polymer level like biodegradable and compostable plastics. The resulting microplastics are left in the environment indefinitely until they eventually fully break down.

I think this depends where you look as I have found  Microorganisms can convert biodegradable plastics into water, carbon dioxide, and biomass—with no nasty chemical leftovers.

 

 

[brokenbone]

its each generations duty to clean up their own <deleted>,

that goes for litter and that goes for economy too.

shame on baby boomers to incur an

imbalance in both cases that will take two generations to

balance.

 

i think a start is to charge for each plastic bag, and research decomposable alternatives

Edited October 1, 2019 by brokenbone

[HHTel]

8 hours ago, worrab said:

 

We're talking of OXO degradable plastic which is not to be confused with biodegradable and compostable.  

Not a case of where you look.  It's a fact which is why various countries are attempting to ban/restrict OXO degradable plastic.

[worrab]

7 hours ago, HHTel said:

We're talking of OXO degradable plastic which is not to be confused with biodegradable and compostable.  

Not a case of where you look.  It's a fact which is why various countries are attempting to ban/restrict OXO degradable plastic.

Having had another look around, yes you are right. This is why restrictions are being imposed.

“Oxo-Biodegradable plastic uses metal salts to start degradation and to speed up the process, which result in extremely small fragments of plastic that no longer “visually” pollute the environment”. Further degradation depends on living organisms and bacteria. Products using this plastic typically don’t break down fully in normal landfills.  This may be due a lack of oxygen. Also, as another negative, some oxo-biodegradable plastics use Cobalt and carries the risk of further environment pollution.

Biodegradable products are actually environmentally safe and typically reduce the pollution. Where as oxo-biodegradable products may actually cause further pollution. There are a lot of products, which are biodegradable that can be bought at the store. These include trash bags, straws, and even shoes & watches!

 

[White Christmas13]

Maybe that will help?

 

 

[balo]

The 5.2% who voted: "It's not serious and nature will eventually break down the plastic." 

Should be ashamed of themselves. 

[olfu]

Plastic bags are bad?--but so is sex--it contribute to overpopulation, masturbation and crime.

[alan grice]

Let the Young Sort Something out for once. I don’t give a Rats Ass at my age..!.Let that Gobby Kid do something other than talk lefty rhetoric..[emoji86]


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