5 hours ago, el torro said:

And that is where you are making a serious mistake.

 

You are convinced that brexiteers are living in "lala land" - instead of having even the slightest understanding of the 'opposition' view point.

Since you failed to answer my simple question it seems I was right. 

11 hours ago, rhyddid said:

 

The mess of BS BJ, not able even to send a single letter.
This gentleman is a disgrace to UK and shall be stopped ASAP.

The real true of the disgraced mess of BS BJ is this:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-no-deal-fruit-picking-apples-national-farmers-union-eu-workers-harvest-a9163781.html

Boris isn,t the only one having trouble with a letter,check out elvis,'re classic"return to sender "

10 hours ago, JonnyF said:

In referendums, the side with the most votes wins. So no it does not include the 16 Million as they were the minority and lost and must accept they lost.

 

Same as a GE, if the Tories get enough MP's to form a majority government that's what happens. Just because Labour may have got "almost enough' does not mean they get a few MP's in the cabinet and the Tories compromise and adopt some of their socialist policies as that would be ludicrous. People who voted Labour would have to accept they lost, even if it was a narrow loss. They couldn't demand a second GE because Tory voters were stupid, didn't understand what they voted for, had died since the vote or any other pathetically weak reason they dream up.

 

The referendum was a binary choice with one winner. If Remain had won by over a million votes, we wouldn't have compromised and left the EU a little bit, it would have been full steam ahead with a federal Europe. The discussion would have been over. Unfortunately for the UK a lot of Remainers do not understand losers consent, hence all the problems from 2016 until the current debacle that has become a national embarrassment.

a lot of people who wanted to vote leave didn,t bother because they thought the vote would have been rigged in favour of remain.

18 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

Democracy is not working anymore when parliament opposes the PM .

on the contrary! in dictatorial regimes, the MP have no say!

17 hours ago, JonnyF said:

The people are ready, the government is ready.

 

Unfortunately we have a few hundred MP's in Parliament who wish to Remain at all costs and will continue to block Brexit by colluding with the EU to block a clean break from the EU.

What a fairy tale.
Even if it is repeated over and over again, it does not come true.

There is no clean break.

An unregulated Brexit is rather the opposite, like a messy, complicated splinter break.

As if all the problems and ambiguities with a no deal brexit on October 31 would disappear. 

The "clean break" postulate is just a propaganda word sleeve, without any factual substance.

Edited October 21, 20196 yr by tomacht8

13 hours ago, el torro said:

The Guardian was my 'paper of choice' until the saga of brexit.

When it continued to publish the facts rather than pure rhetoric and lies which you prefer to read on Brexit. Suggest that you get your head out of the sand and see what's going on around you.

 

 

Edited October 21, 20196 yr by DannyCarlton

2 hours ago, kingdong said:

a lot of people who wanted to vote leave didn,t bother because they thought the vote would have been rigged in favour of remain.

Why does it fill you with joy to make your country, the UK, look like a 4 class banana republic, where you imply that elections can be massively manipulated - rigged?

Edited October 21, 20196 yr by tomacht8

48 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

Why does it fill you with joy to make your country, the UK, look like a 4 class banana republic, where you imply that elections can be massively manipulated - rigged?

 

UK is getting pretty close to banana republics now

 

about time you start overhauling your election system and political governing system,

both are pretty dysfunctional me thinks

 

23 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

I think that everybody is tired about this  'Brexit Drama' by now . Get out by the 31st . Democracy is not working anymore when parliament opposes the PM .

That's actually the essence of democracy. The PM is not a king.

19 hours ago, puipuitom said:

As long as this kind of comments exist, showing there is ZERO konwledge about the EU, how it fucntions, how organised, there is in my view no place for the British inside the EU.

Unelected… how many members of the Houde of Lords are elected ? How maany civil servants, the governour of the Bank of England, the UK representative in FIFA, Olympic Committe, etc etc etc ?

"The European Commission (EC) is the executive branch of the European Union, responsible for proposing legislation, implementing decisions, upholding the EU treaties and managing the day-to-day business of the EU." 

Role of the European Commission

 

None of the bodies you mentioned have anywhere near this amount of power.