jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 You agree that hannity is pure ENTERTAINMENT and you rely on it for you facts? Sorry pure spin. A previous poster showed a video of Judge Napolitano agreeing that the process is following the rules of previous investigations. Even FOx NEWS agrees that process is fair. hannity a cult member is ENTERTAINMENT. PURE SPIN> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Tippaporn said: Again, if you have no facts to argue with then why attack the source. Especially as the source is providing documentation. Argue with what Levin is saying. That might be a start. hannity is not a reliable source. He is ENTERTAINMENT. You are being manipulated by an entertainment program. it is PURE SPIN> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: If you have a reasoned, valid argument please continue. Why should I reason with fiction? hannity is ENTERTAINMENT fiction. Why should I reason with creative writing? It is not real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, jm91 said: You agree that hannity is pure ENTERTAINMENT and you rely on it for you facts? Sorry pure spin. A previous poster showed a video of Judge Napolitano agreeing that the process is following the rules of previous investigations. Even FOx NEWS agrees that process is fair. hannity a cult member is ENTERTAINMENT. PURE SPIN> Hannity is political commentary, not entertainment. It's been debated before. If you're going to make a claim at least make sure you know what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, jm91 said: Why should I reason with fiction? hannity is ENTERTAINMENT fiction. Why should I reason with creative writing? It is not real. Why should I reason with creative writing? It is not real. I think you're losing it. That document if from a congress.gov address. Hardly creative writing. Read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Tippaporn said: Hannity is political commentary, not entertainment. It's been debated before. If you're going to make a claim at least make sure you know what you're talking about. He is NOT part of fox news. Even fox news has some standards of truth. He is pure propaganda for his orange cult leader. NOT NEWS>>> ENTERTAINMENT> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 What you posted is a republican partisan rant on an ENTERTAINMENT show. Sorry that is not analysis. It is SPIN> Watch the Napolitano video. If a retired state supreme court judge with very conservative leanings see the process as fair then it is probably fair. hannity is pure ENTERTAINMENT SPIN with partisan cult followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 18 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: Why should I reason with creative writing? It is not real. I think you're losing it. That document if from a congress.gov address. Hardly creative writing. Read it. When congress was investigating Sec. of State Clinton they used closed door hearings. That was congress investigating the executive branch. Those hearing were pure politics and nothing was found. The process is the same for investigating trump. The RULE OF LAW is the same set of rules applies to everyone. You can cherry pick some small detail but the process is essentially the same. The rules for investigating trump are the same. Congress is exercising its DUTY of oversight. IT HAS A DUTY to investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, jm91 said: He is NOT part of fox news. Even fox news has some standards of truth. He is pure propaganda for his orange cult leader. NOT NEWS>>> ENTERTAINMENT> From Wikipedia: Hannity is an American television political talk program on Fox News Channel hosted by Sean Hannity. Again, you need to know what you're talking about when you make erroneous claims. Repeating the same lie over and over won't make it become truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, jm91 said: What you posted is a republican partisan rant on an ENTERTAINMENT show. Sorry that is not analysis. It is SPIN> Watch the Napolitano video. If a retired state supreme court judge with very conservative leanings see the process as fair then it is probably fair. hannity is pure ENTERTAINMENT SPIN with partisan cult followers. Watch the Napolitano video. If a retired state supreme court judge with very conservative leanings see the process as fair then it is probably fair. That may just be the difference between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives don't merely regurgitate. They actually think for themselves and do their own research. Here's the link to the PDF from congress.gov. Read it and make up your own mind as to whether or not the Republicans are dead within their rights to demand a fair process. I do understand that I can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink. https://www.congress.gov/105/crpt/hrpt795/CRPT-105hrpt795.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Tippaporn said: From Wikipedia: Hannity is an American television political talk program on Fox News Channel hosted by Sean Hannity. Again, you need to know what you're talking about when you make erroneous claims. Repeating the same lie over and over won't make it become truth. You are being manipulated by FICTION. hannity is the ENTERTAINMENT part of FOX. He is NOT a journalist. He is as you say a commentator - NOT A JOURNALIST - with a clear political BIAS towards trump. He was even admonished by fox for appearing on stage with trump at a rally. HE IS AN ENTERTAINER NOT A JOURNALIST. PURE SPIN. Your response will probably be what about what about!!! all those other people are biased...maybe..don't deflect. Come on admit hannity is not a journalist. Admit he is in the ENTERTAINMENT business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Tippaporn said: Watch the Napolitano video. If a retired state supreme court judge with very conservative leanings see the process as fair then it is probably fair. That may just be the difference between liberals and conservatives. Conservatives don't merely regurgitate. They actually think for themselves and do their own research. Here's the link to the PDF from congress.gov. Read it and make up your own mind as to whether or not the Republicans are dead within their rights to demand a fair process. I do understand that I can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink. https://www.congress.gov/105/crpt/hrpt795/CRPT-105hrpt795.pdf No everyone tries to think. It is not a liberal versus conservative..some people can and others can not. Sorry my conservative friend..you are not thinking. You are spewing hannity ENTERTAINMENT and thinking is it analysis based on facts. It is SPIN> The process is fair. It is the same process used in the past. Sorry you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, jm91 said: No everyone tries to think. It is not a liberal versus conservative..some people can and others can not. Sorry my conservative friend..you are not thinking. You are spewing hannity ENTERTAINMENT and thinking is it analysis based on facts. It is SPIN> The process is fair. It is the same process used in the past. Sorry you are wrong. I read the document you provided. It clearly shows the current investigation is legal and fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, jm91 said: I read the document you provided. It clearly shows the current investigation is legal and fair. You must be a speed reader to have read and comprehended 48 pages in such short time. It is the intention of the Committee that its investigation will be conducted in all respects on a fair, impartial and bipartisan or nonpartisan basis. In this spirit, the power to authorize subpoenas and other compulsory process is committed by this resolution in the first instance to the Chairman and the Ranking Minority Member acting jointly. If either declines to act, the other may act alone, subject to the right of either to refer the question to the Committee for decision prior to issuance, and a meeting of the Committee will be convened promptly to consider the question. Thus, meetings will not be required to authorize issuance of process, so long as neither the Chairman nor the Ranking Minority Member refers the matter to the Committee. In the alternative, the Committee possesses the independent authority to authorize subpoenas and other process, should it be felt that action of the whole Committee is preferable under the circumstances. Thus, maximum flexibility and bipartisanship are reconciled in this resolution. Not so with the current process. No active participation allowed by the minority party. And you call that fair? LOL BTW, . . . fair, impartial and bipartisan or nonpartisan basis. No one can claim Schiff or Pelosi are impartial. They both hate Trump's guts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: I do understand that I can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink. https://www.congress.gov/105/crpt/hrpt795/CRPT-105hrpt795.pdf Your leading a horse to water is an inaccurate description. You are leading me to your propaganda source and I refuse to believe the BIG LIES you believe. I read widely both conservative and liberal sources. trump does not represent conservative values or american values..he represent totalitarian values. It is sad to see people blindly support that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Tippaporn said: You must be a speed reader to have read and comprehended 48 pages in such short time. It is the intention of the Committee that its investigation will be conducted in all respects on a fair, impartial and bipartisan or nonpartisan basis. In this spirit, the power to authorize subpoenas and other compulsory process is committed by this resolution in the first instance to the Chairman and the Ranking Minority Member acting jointly. If either declines to act, the other may act alone, subject to the right of either to refer the question to the Committee for decision prior to issuance, and a meeting of the Committee will be convened promptly to consider the question. Thus, meetings will not be required to authorize issuance of process, so long as neither the Chairman nor the Ranking Minority Member refers the matter to the Committee. In the alternative, the Committee possesses the independent authority to authorize subpoenas and other process, should it be felt that action of the whole Committee is preferable under the circumstances. Thus, maximum flexibility and bipartisanship are reconciled in this resolution. Not so with the current process. No active participation allowed by the minority party. And you call that fair? LOL No republicans are members of the committee investigating the president. Sorry you are being manipulated by spin. trump and his followers are systematically devaluing the rule of law. Democracy can not last when people see their political opponents as the enemy. Both liberals and conservatives think. trump and his followers are not conservatives..they are totalitarianists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, jm91 said: Your leading a horse to water is an inaccurate description. You are leading me to your propaganda source and I refuse to believe the BIG LIES you believe. I read widely both conservative and liberal sources. trump does not represent conservative values or american values..he represent totalitarian values. It is sad to see people blindly support that. Explain how this document, INVESTIGATORY POWERS OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY WITH RESPECT TO ITS IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, is propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: You must be a speed reader to have read and comprehended 48 pages in such short time. It is the intention of the Committee that its investigation will be conducted in all respects on a fair, impartial and bipartisan or nonpartisan basis. In this spirit, the power to authorize subpoenas and other compulsory process is committed by this resolution in the first instance to the Chairman and the Ranking Minority Member acting jointly. If either declines to act, the other may act alone, subject to the right of either to refer the question to the Committee for decision prior to issuance, and a meeting of the Committee will be convened promptly to consider the question. Thus, meetings will not be required to authorize issuance of process, so long as neither the Chairman nor the Ranking Minority Member refers the matter to the Committee. In the alternative, the Committee possesses the independent authority to authorize subpoenas and other process, should it be felt that action of the whole Committee is preferable under the circumstances. Thus, maximum flexibility and bipartisanship are reconciled in this resolution. Not so with the current process. No active participation allowed by the minority party. And you call that fair? LOL BTW, . . . fair, impartial and bipartisan or nonpartisan basis. No one can claim Schiff or Pelosi are impartial. They both hate Trump's guts. It was the same process when Sec of State Clinton was investigated. Do you now claim that was unfair because it was clearly partisan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Tippaporn said: Explain how this document, INVESTIGATORY POWERS OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY WITH RESPECT TO ITS IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, is propaganda. the hannity video with a partisan hack is SPIN> I see a document that clearly gives congress the right to investigate the president. Republicans are on the committee. the hannity spin is PROPAGANDA. The process is fair and following the rules established by a REPUBLICAN congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 the orange cult members are not conservatives - they are supporters of strong man government..as long as they get to choose the strong man (or woman). Most people in the USA have the same values. People want the same things - a good life, opportunity etc. but how to get to that place as a country is the conflict. Democracy requires strong institutions, the rule of law and willingness to compromise and the ability to work with others. I see trump and SOME of his supporters as undermining the institutions of democracy, the rule of law and they demonize others as a way of sabotaging compromise and cooperation. Cue the cry of what about those stupid liberals. A so called conservative republican is the president. The current president has set a tone of insults and attacks on individuals. Those are not American values. trump is a disgrace to american values. True conservatives don't support trump as does not represent conservative values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Tippaporn said: Explain how this document, INVESTIGATORY POWERS OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY WITH RESPECT TO ITS IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, is propaganda. What you don't seem to take into account is back then there was an independent counsel, who did conduct investigations in secrecy. In fact, far greater secrecy than there is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm91 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, bristolboy said: What you don't seem to take into account is back then there was an independent counsel, who did conduct investigations in secrecy. In fact, far greater secrecy than there is now. Back then - whenever you are talking about please be clear - there was greater secrecy and that was OK but closed door hearings with bi partisan participation is not OK? I am glad you agree with me that congress doing their duty to investigate and monitor the executive branch. But you seem to thing it is a partisan attack..which is wrong. OK..then you must agree that the congressional investigation of Sec. of State Clinton (a partisan attack) was also wrong. I am guessing your answer is not or you will ignore it and wallow in the hypocrisy. does trump represents for you the best values of the USA? Just curious..a known liar, sexual assaulter, serial fraud..etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 11:57 PM, Thakkar said: That pic of a gathering of old white congressmen “Looks like a protest outside a pharmacy that ran out of Viagra.” —Seth Meyers Yet Rep Gaetz seemed to think this group of middle-aged suits was like "300", a movie about 300 chest-waxing musclemen wearing capes and leather speedos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWyRmsXF5Yc Gaetz has a strange fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Troll posts and replies removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Being accused of hiding things by an administration that has the audacity to release information that looks like this is beyond absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 6:34 PM, keith101 said: What an absolute bunch of losers at the behest of the soon to be IMPEACHED Trump . Gonna be one hell of a housecleaning when all this is over. Gonna have to rent a guillotine from France and it set up outside of the US Capitol building. Not a swamp to drain, more like a livestock culling to rid hoof and mouth, pun intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Too funny. A bunch of repubs complaining because they made a law and the dems are following that law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 All storming is well warranted...you can't leave these Dems alone. Known fabricators and manipulators. It is being reported that investigators now have proof that Lisa Page had edited Gen Mik Flynn's FBI 302 report and lied to DOJ about the edits. This is a crime....bye bye Lisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: All storming is well warranted...you can't leave these Dems alone. Known fabricators and manipulators. It is being reported that investigators now have proof that Lisa Page had edited Gen Mik Flynn's FBI 302 report and lied to DOJ about the edits. This is a crime....bye bye Lisa. Why would anyone doubt allegations raised by Flynn's lawyers? He must be innocent. Case closed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 30 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: All storming is well warranted...you can't leave these Dems alone. Known fabricators and manipulators. It is being reported that investigators now have proof that Lisa Page had edited Gen Mik Flynn's FBI 302 report and lied to DOJ about the edits. This is a crime....bye bye Lisa. Now being reported by who? I did a search on the subject and didn't come up with anything that came from a credible source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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