Farmers to seek court injunction on proposed ban on three chemicals

[rooster59]

Farmers to seek court injunction on proposed ban on three chemicals

By THE NATION

 

 

A farmers’ body will appeal to the Central Administrative Court on Monday (October 28) to issue an injunction on the ban of toxic agricultural chemicals – paraquat, chlorpyrifos and glyphosate – which was approved by the unanimous vote of Hazardous Substance Committee on Tuesday.

 

Sukan Sangwanna, secretary-general of Federation of Safe Agriculture (FSA), said on Saturday that the FSA and representatives of farmers who grow six economic crops including sugarcane, tapioca, oil palm, rubber, corn, and fruits will approach the court seeking a stay.

 

 

“There are currently no concrete measures to provide alternative pesticides or weed killing machines to affected farmers by the government, which means farmers have to take care of the weed/pest problems by hiring additional labourers themselves,” he said. “In the end, the ban on the three chemicals will only increase the production costs.”

 

Sukan said that he will ask for a stay on the ban on the grounds that the voting process of the Hazardous Substance Committee chaired by Deputy Agriculture Minister Mananya Thaiseth did not comply with the prime minister’s order to have the issue discussed by four related parties including the government, importers, farmers and consumers. “There was no presence of importers at the meeting, while representatives of farmers only came from the organic agriculture group and lacked the presence of farmers of economic crops who rely on these three chemicals,” he said. “I hope that the court will consider halting the ban until the issue is thoroughly studied by related parties and suitable supporting measures are ready.”

 

Sukan added that he will submit a letter to Hazardous Substance Committee to question the possible double standard practice of Thailand still importing fruits and vegetables from countries that allow paraquat and glyphosate, including China, Japan and the US. “If we ban these substances in Thailand, we should stop importing products from these countries too, or else domestic products won’t be able to compete due to increased costs.”

 

Statistics from Department of Agriculture reveal that currently Thailand still has stocks of these three chemicals of nearly 30,000 tonnes, whereas the cost to safely eliminate them is estimated at Bt3 billion.

 

Related Stories: 

 

Hazardous Substance Committee agrees to ban 3 toxic pesticides

 

US countered on call for delay of agro-chemical ban

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30377768

 

-- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-10-27

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[Snuller21]

So Farmers just want to continue to kill people, Thai people they want to continue killing with these pesticides and herbicides. Is it so funny to make 5 Baht more than the neighbor that do NOT use them?

[sweatalot]

I think they got some brown envelopes from the poison sellers

[robblok]

41 minutes ago, Snuller21 said:

So Farmers just want to continue to kill people, Thai people they want to continue killing with these pesticides and herbicides. Is it so funny to make 5 Baht more than the neighbor that do NOT use them?

Yes farmers have absolutely no regard for people. They don't mind if they poison people. Just look at how each and every time the vegetables and fruits in supermarkets have more poison on them then allowed. Without harsh rules the farmers will continue to abuse and kill the normal people just for some money.

 

I hope the poison get banned soon, and I dont mind paying a bit more for safe products.

[Srikcir]

To argue that there is a financial cost related to this ban is not a legal argument and an open-ended injunction shouldn't be considered by the court. The court should consider an injunction if the government violated due process in establishing new regulations and any legislative amendments. From news reporting that doesn't seem to be the case however.

 

The farmers should instead petition the government for (wait for it) a temporary (two growing seasons?) subsidy for increased production costs caused by the ban. This approach has been the Prayut's government's solution to keep rice, rubber, palm oil, cassava, sugar, etc. crops competitive.

[tifino]

this Farmers' Body, can now follow the worldwide trend of other Farmers' Bodys; - by taking the subject of their Protests, to the steps of parliament...

   trouble is that it would be gallons of - toxic protest!

 

 

 But then to complete the picture of Farmers' Body protests... the farmers then will have to lie down on the steps 

 

 

This is going to get gory!

 

[FarFlungFalang]

37 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

The farmers should instead petition the government for (wait for it) a temporary (two growing seasons?) subsidy for increased production costs caused by the ban. This approach has been the Prayut's government's solution to keep rice, rubber, palm oil, cassava, sugar, etc. crops competitive.

I hope you're not suggesting the rich elite running the country actually assist the lowly classed farmers without any kickbacks? 

[Fred white]

1 hour ago, tifino said:

this Farmers' Body, can now follow the worldwide trend of other Farmers' Bodys; - by taking the subject of their Protests, to the steps of parliament...

   trouble is that it would be gallons of - toxic protest!

 

 

 But then to complete the picture of Farmers' Body protests... the farmers then will have to lie down on the steps 

 

 

This is going to get gory!

 

Just remember who runs the govt it'll give them a reason to use their new strykers

[digger70]

12 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Farmers to seek court injunction on proposed ban on three chemicals

By THE NATION

They have a point ,But saying that they have to do the right thing. what's happening at the moment is that the farmers Don't stick to the rules , meaning they are over using  the the said products as in not using the right prescribed mixing volumes and using them to often. To stop arguments Ask Mr/Ms Google and see what they have to say about the products after they have been tested over and over in the labs and they will tell you one can't even kill a chicken with paraquad same with roundup. in AUS we Plane sprayed 2700 acres with roundup & atrazine while there were cattle on the paddocks . No probs the cattle still went to slaughter yard  after and were tested Clear. As for people who want to Kill themself with those products  up to them , other people kill themself with alcohol/nicotine/coke/heroin/ speed/hang themself /shoot themself/jump of a bridge /hit a tree with car or bike. 

Up to them if that's the way they want to go.    ☠️

[farmerjo]

2 hours ago, tifino said:

this Farmers' Body, can now follow the worldwide trend of other Farmers' Bodys; - by taking the subject of their Protests, to the steps of parliament...

   trouble is that it would be gallons of - toxic protest!

 

 

 But then to complete the picture of Farmers' Body protests... the farmers then will have to lie down on the steps 

 

 

This is going to get gory!

 

I'm not into protests.

BUT if the yellow shirts can take down your international airport,i would hate to see what 5 million farmers could do.

[yuyiinthesky]

Judge, I don't know what do, I used this poison for the last years, I forgot how to farm without it. And the poison salesman said nothing will grow without it, and who cares if someone gets sick from eating what I sell. So you see, Judge, I really need you to allow me to continue.

[MaxLee]

On 10/27/2019 at 8:23 AM, sweatalot said:

I think they got some brown envelopes from the poison sellers

And from the US, too....

[canopy]

On 10/27/2019 at 5:56 AM, rooster59 said:

“In the end, the ban on the three chemicals will only increase the production costs.”

Seems reasonable to believe production costs and likewise consumer costs will rise. I will gladly pay another 5 baht at the grocery store to not have everything doused in poisons and fish raised in poison runoff and so on. And the countryside will be blessed with job after job this creates for the poor. Health and the environment are other big winners. And let's not forget exports could find new buyers abroad with higher margins from wealthier areas demanding cleaner food. Give it a chance, too many good reasons and the farmers may be big winners.

 

On 10/27/2019 at 5:56 AM, rooster59 said:

“If we ban these substances in Thailand, we should stop importing products from these countries too [countries that allow paraquat and glyphosate, including China, Japan and the US], or else domestic products won’t be able to compete due to increased costs.”

Sounds sensible to be honest.

[farmerjo]

17 minutes ago, canopy said:

Seems reasonable to believe production costs and likewise consumer costs will rise. I will gladly pay another 5 baht at the grocery store to not have everything doused in poisons and fish raised in poison runoff and so on. And the countryside will be blessed with job after job this creates for the poor. Health and the environment are other big winners. And let's not forget exports could find new buyers abroad with higher margins from wealthier areas demanding cleaner food. Give it a chance, too many good reasons and the farmers may be big winners.

I got asked in another thread why i was against organic.

Reason is basically cause it's fake, add more than 5 baht.

Also after everyone telling me the EU are the leaders i read this...have a read...

They have along way to go to get their organic production in order by 2022 when they know glyphosate will be banned.

Yet for some reason Thailand think they can do it in a couple of months.

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/food-farming-fisheries/farming/documents/market-brief-organic-farming-in-the-eu_mar2019_en.pdf

[farmerjo]

The appeal has been lodged.????

[dcnx]

The profile on the guy holding the phone in the photo.... what a skull.