khwaibah Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Bangkok Post front page just posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Very recent news. Except from B.Post only seen a short report and video on CH7 website. Closed to end of November (except situation normalizes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoongfoned Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 wife got some messages on friday about fmd in kk, about pig farms and pig movement in that area though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo1968 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Not surprised. So where will the cattle / pigs go that cannot now go to KK ? and so it goes ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickstart Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 A look at a You-tube video of KK market A video of KK cattle market ,most of these cattle will be brought for breeding the odd long video shot of a half decent bull ,can not see any going for slaughter you would have a job to get a Sunday roast off any of them ,may be the odd fit bull will go for the chop. Like most cattle markets if the owner can not the price he wants he will take them home ,and that is how F/M is spread. Where will the cattle go ,I would say to the next Provence to they cattle market . In my area we have F/M again last month it was on one dairy farm ,but it was contained and did not spread ,now it is 12 km away on a beef farm , and I think it now on a dairy farm which is how it is often spread in this area ,vie beef cattle Owners of beef cattle have no facilities for catching and injecting they cattle and most owners can not even handle there cattle, so they do not get the vaccine injection ,and a lot of owners are buying and selling beef cattle,so it can soon spread . Last year we had a big outbreak of F/M farms who have been milking cow for 20 years got it for the first time,we also have a lot of big company pig farms CP, have 2 -3 farms , they where not infected they bio security was good . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoongfoned Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 wifes farm got its 2nd dose of foot and mouth vaccine this year, earler his month. like you say if you have strick bio security in place it helps to control the nasty stuff. i was reading about the spread of asf in china, cpf has very large pig holdings in china, but has had very little infection from asf because of the very strick bio security its farms have in place. as of afew months ago i banned all mobile phones going into the pig farm, workers were/are not happy, i told them all to club together and buy a uv box,so their phones can be zapped, as of yet they have not bought the uv box.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo1968 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 20 hours ago, kickstart said: A look at a You-tube video of KK market A video of KK cattle market ,most of these cattle will be brought for breeding the odd long video shot of a half decent bull ,can not see any going for slaughter you would have a job to get a Sunday roast off any of them ,may be the odd fit bull will go for the chop. Like most cattle markets if the owner can not the price he wants he will take them home ,and that is how F/M is spread. Where will the cattle go ,I would say to the next Provence to they cattle market . In my area we have F/M again last month it was on one dairy farm ,but it was contained and did not spread ,now it is 12 km away on a beef farm , and I think it now on a dairy farm which is how it is often spread in this area ,vie beef cattle Owners of beef cattle have no facilities for catching and injecting they cattle and most owners can not even handle there cattle, so they do not get the vaccine injection ,and a lot of owners are buying and selling beef cattle,so it can soon spread . Last year we had a big outbreak of F/M farms who have been milking cow for 20 years got it for the first time,we also have a lot of big company pig farms CP, have 2 -3 farms , they where not infected they bio security was good . Speedo1968 Super Member Advanced Members 418 1,179 posts Report post #4 Posted 22 hours ago Not surprised. So where will the cattle / pigs go that cannot now go to KK ? and so it goes .... My point exactly. Having been in farming since 1961, mostly in different countries, working freelance, many of the farms with extremely high bio-security procedures in place, there seems to be more of "it won't happen in my backyard" attitude due to arrogance rather than lack of knowledge. I would not accept through hear say that certain company farms are free of disease just because they state that their bio-security is very good. As "thongfoned" pens in his post about mobile phones. In India a major world producer of rabies vaccines with brand new facilities suffered a total loss of it's very first flock due to a simple breach in security. The worst part of it was that under Indian regulations the flock could not be destroyed, the birds must die first, this took over 3 weeks. When working with other companies on any return trip from overseas I was not allowed to enter any of their facilities for one month. Where I live now in Thailand their are 'free-range" cattle / buffaloes going back every evening to a farm that has young fattening stock. A hatchery here turned a blind eye for many weeks to staff not wanting to walk through a foot-dip. Only when a farmer looses everything might they sit up and wonder why.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickstart Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Speedo1968 said: Speedo1968 Super Member Advanced Members 418 1,179 posts Report post #4 Posted 22 hours ago Not surprised. So where will the cattle / pigs go that cannot now go to KK ? and so it goes .... My point exactly. Having been in farming since 1961, mostly in different countries, working freelance, many of the farms with extremely high bio-security procedures in place, there seems to be more of "it won't happen in my backyard" attitude due to arrogance rather than lack of knowledge. I would not accept through hear say that certain company farms are free of disease just because they state that their bio-security is very good. As "thongfoned" pens in his post about mobile phones. In India a major world producer of rabies vaccines with brand new facilities suffered a total loss of it's very first flock due to a simple breach in security. The worst part of it was that under Indian regulations the flock could not be destroyed, the birds must die first, this took over 3 weeks. When working with other companies on any return trip from overseas I was not allowed to enter any of their facilities for one month. Where I live now in Thailand their are 'free-range" cattle / buffaloes going back every evening to a farm that has young fattening stock. A hatchery here turned a blind eye for many weeks to staff not wanting to walk through a foot-dip. Only when a farmer looses everything might they sit up and wonder why.... With FMD in Thailand in cattle they treat it as just another disease ,and try to cure it by injecting antibiotics ,but with FMD cattle can get over it them selves ,but they are often weak ,dairy cows the milk yield drops drastically ,so dose fertility a few cows die ,some due to related diseases ,mortality in young calves is high ,farmers say injecting them does cure the disease . What annoys the dairy farms is the fact they can not send they milk for selling due to the injected antibiotics ,for a few weeks ,resulting in a big loss of income . As for bio security ,what bio security ,when word is out they is FMD about farmers spread lime at the front of they farms ,idea vehicles drive over the lime and the lime kills the virus ......about as much use as a chocolate teapot.the local DLD have dips at the end of Soi's of infected farms "dips" being rice sacks on the road soaked in disinfection vehicles run over the sacks and it kill the diseases,and stops it from spreading ,and they only work from 8 am-6 pm, about as much use............... We all know about Thai dogs just roaming about the place ,it has been reported that dogs have spread the diseas ,no one controls the dogs . When a farm get FMD they are normally on they own, vets will not enter that farm and inject they cattle ,except one vet ,he will inject a heard with FMD ,and then needles to say ,he goes home to his own dairy farm and infects his own farm . The problem is they do not loose every thing , ,cattle get over it and life goes on again ,one farm ,one of the best in the area ,a good guy knows his cows ,he got it twice in 18 months ,no bio security at all ,just the lime at the front of the farm ,I meet him after his second out brake ,he was just carrying on as before ,just like all the other farms ,he was telling me how much he spent on drugs injecting his cattle ,like I said it was just another disease ,another case of tit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo1968 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Sorry, placed text about African Swine Fever and Bird Flu, not relevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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