Pattaya: Go Go dancers go to police claiming their "foreign" boss has not paid them

[jacko45k]

7 hours ago, TDCNINJA said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thirty-angry-strippers-march-thai-210000350.html

 

The owner was Eurotrash, not a yank.

That does not appear to be a credible source... they were certainly not 'Strippers'....

It does actually say the owner 'is from Europe', you decided to make him Eurotrash. 

[jacko45k]

4 hours ago, otaku00 said:

Imagine: someone doing an illegal job and then complaining at the police ...

Which illegal job is that then?

[bluesofa]

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

That does not appear to be a credible source... they were certainly not 'Strippers'....

It does actually say the owner 'is from Europe', you decided to make him Eurotrash. 

Someone more cynical than me, once said, "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story."

[Leaver]

On 10/29/2019 at 9:57 PM, Mavideol said:

and maybe get some discount/good deals... desperate times lead to desperate actions 555

Correct. 

 

They may end up having to implement the 2 for 1 business model like some of the bars here.  ????

[Leaver]

On 10/29/2019 at 5:21 PM, bluesofa said:

As someone famously once said, 'Let them eat cake somtam'

I'm sure they will make it up some other way.  Perhaps they will create a pool table license.  ????????

[metempsychotic]

On 10/29/2019 at 10:41 AM, colinneil said:

She said, everyone was tired and fed up- they were forced to dance in high heels for 7- 8 hours a day.

Sorry girl nobody forced you to do it, you and the others chose to flash your bodies for money.

So you beleive it is acceptable not to pay someone for work done. 

 

Are you saying they deserved to be cheated of wages earned? 

[metempsychotic]

On 10/29/2019 at 11:07 AM, LazySlipper said:

 

Well... by doing this they are making sure that the girls will NEVER get paid. And who says the BIB are never on the foreigners' side.   Kinda sad... 

Thai labour courts are very effective and worker focused. 

 

The question is whether or not the owner can be located and if there is any money in the coffers to be paid. 

[metempsychotic]

On 10/29/2019 at 1:29 PM, Leaver said:

30 extra and desperate girls touting on Walking Street tonight.  Might be a good night to go out.  ????

Because it's so much fun to fok a woman who is desperate, right? 

[Leaver]

1 minute ago, metempsychotic said:

Because it's so much fun to fok a woman who is desperate, right? 

No, of course it's not fun to take advantage of financially desperate people.

 

In my opinion, GoGo girls were always over valued.  They actually thought they should charge more for their services because they considered themselves more beautiful than those who work in a bar, or other places.  They simply are not. 

[metempsychotic]

On 10/29/2019 at 4:15 PM, Mikeasq60 said:

Did the Thai boyfriend of girls baby daddy pay sin sod to girls mama and daddy. Oh hell no,  and did Thai daddy pay for baby to be born. Double hell no. Does Thai baby daddy pay child support after they dump mother with his baby. Again no,  farang pay for his baby yes. And child support again yes. Thai lady must be taught in school and home early on how to keep legs closed! 

A Fine human being you have turned out to be. 

 

This thread is yet another of those threads that appear on Thaivisa that serve to identify how mysogynistic and callous so many of the posters here are. 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 31, 2019 by metempsychotic

[BritManToo]

5 minutes ago, metempsychotic said:

A Fine human being you have turned out to be. 

This tread is yet another of those threads that appear on Thaivisa that serve to identify how mysogynistic and callous so many of the posters here are. 

It also highlights the white guys that haven't managed to escape their culture of 'vagina worship'.

I've not noticed many desperate women in go-gos.

But I've found plenty of lazy/drug addicts/alcoholics/party girls there.

 

That being said, they do deserve to be paid, but business fail and sometimes employers can't or won't fulfill their obligations to staff.

Edited October 31, 2019 by BritManToo

[Leaver]

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

It also highlights the white guys that haven't managed to escape their culture of 'vagina worship'.

I've not noticed many desperate women in go-gos.

 

But I've found plenty of lazy/drug addicts/alcoholics/party girls there.

Many of whom are also con artists and criminals, with a long list of victims, but hey, it's the western guy's fault, not the Thai hooker's fault, right????

[metempsychotic]

1 minute ago, Leaver said:

Many of whom are also con artists and criminals, with a long list of victims, but hey, it's the western guy's fault, not the Thai hooker's fault, right????

And what does this have to do with these women not getting paid for work done? 

Are you saying they deserved to be ripped off? 

[Leaver]

10 minutes ago, metempsychotic said:

And what does this have to do with these women not getting paid for work done? 

Are you saying they deserved to be ripped off? 

Perhaps kharma. 

[RJRS1301]

21 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Perhaps kharma. 

Allowed yourself to be ripped off or scammed, now everyone in the same profession is responsible ??

[jimn]

On 10/30/2019 at 2:19 PM, DannyCarlton said:

Only if the owner has no clue how to run a bar.

 

The one in question was open barely a month, i think this was the girls' first paycheck.

 

Aimed at the far eastern market. Trashy decor, no marketing/promotrion, unattractive overpaid girls. What could possibly go wrong?

 

Bars opening and closing all the time in Pattaya, it's a merry go round that's been revolving for many years.

I agree its an unattractive bar. But its been open for ages, it certainly was when I went back home for a few months in May. As for being aimed at Eastern market I think you have the wrong gogo mate.

[jimn]

On 10/30/2019 at 7:02 AM, jacko45k said:

Mod has removed it but go to OP and follow the Thai link. 

It was quoted on here before but now I think its been "Hidden"

[Lancelot01]

On 10/29/2019 at 11:12 AM, KhunBENQ said:

From the Thai news I found the name of the place.

Can't remember to have read/seen before.

For sale since at least April.

Anyone care for phone nr/LINE ID to start a new business D

Do you need to settle any outstanding bills, salaries etc..

[metempsychotic]

11 hours ago, Leaver said:

Perhaps kharma. 

One can only hope you encounter yours. 

[metempsychotic]

19 hours ago, otaku00 said:

Imagine: someone doing an illegal job and then complaining at the police ...

In what way is the job they do in the bar illegal? 

[metempsychotic]

On 10/30/2019 at 4:37 PM, RJRS1301 said:

Umm hotel workers, know many people and a diversity of friends, some many be sex workers,(sometimes they have the same clients) and they share professional stories, when they socialise or network

 

 

Why bother answering someone who so obviously believes only what he wants to beleive.

 

You can't fight stupidity or bigotry or misogyny with logic. 

[metempsychotic]

12 hours ago, BritManToo said:

It also highlights the white guys that haven't managed to escape their culture of 'vagina worship'.

I've not noticed many desperate women in go-gos.

But I've found plenty of lazy/drug addicts/alcoholics/party girls there.

 

That being said, they do deserve to be paid, but business fail and sometimes employers can't or won't fulfill their obligations to staff.

And in that event the staff have every right to seek redress as these women are doing. 

As for vagina worship, I don't see how either their job or their sex has anything to do with them deserving to be paid the agreed upon amount. 

 

In fact the only way it is relavent here is in the reaction of the posters to both their sex and the job they do which seems to make them undeserving of fair treatment in the eyes of so many. 

[alecranb]

Hi to all, I think this is my first post here on TV

For be clear, I have 3 friends that started to work in the middle of October in this gogo (yes is Hidden a gogo) with the method of 10 days work.

Normally after 10 days they must be paied and the salary is between 1000 and 1500 baht per day (now you understand why some time lady not need to go with customer ????), after 10 days they can change gogo or stay for other 10 days.

What I know is there are 2 owners, one from Korea (not sure 100%) and one from United States (sure 100% because some lady posted on facebook copy of his passport, asking if someone saw him); seems that american guy stole some money and go away, so company not pay rent and not pay employes.

This is what i know at moment

p.s. i really don't understand all the anger that someone post against the "dancers" (sex workers); we are under Pattaya forum and normally if they are sex workers, you are the guys that go with sex workers; i'm missing something?

sorry for my english is not my native language

Ale

 

Edited October 31, 2019 by alecranb

[alecranb]

yes was the first post ????

[BestB]

9 minutes ago, alecranb said:

Hi to all, I think this is my first post here on TV

For be clear, I have 3 friends that started to work in the middle of October in this gogo (yes is Hidden a gogo) with the method of 10 days work.

Normally after 10 days they must be paied and the salary is between 1000 and 1500 baht per day (now you understand why some time lady not need to go with customer ????), after 10 days they can change gogo or stay for other 10 days.

What I know is there are 2 owners, one from Korea (not sure 100%) and one from United States (sure 100% because some lady posted on facebook copy of his passport, asking if someone saw him); seems that american guy stole some money and go away, so company not pay rent and not pay employes.

This is what i know at moment

p.s. i really don't undertand all the anger that someone post against the "dancers" (sex workers); we are under Pattaya forum and normally if they are sex workers, you are the guys that go with sex workers; i'm missing something?

sorry for my english is not my native language

Ale

 

So if there are 2 owners, why have not second owner paid the bills and why girls are not going after him and why are they posting passport of only one? 

 

And if you know there are 2, then surely girls also know.

 

Also how did the girls get a photo of his passport?

[alecranb]

37 minutes ago, BestB said:

So if there are 2 owners, why have not second owner paid the bills and why girls are not going after him and why are they posting passport of only one? 

 

And if you know there are 2, then surely girls also know.

 

Also how did the girls get a photo of his passport?

As I say I'm not sure about the korean owner (you know "thenglish" is not easy), and for the passport was inside some papers in the gogo (i think i cannot post here the copy, but is born in Jamaica but have US citizen)

I agree that a lot of thai lady are not good, but also that not all farang are the best man on the planet

At moment I only see the fact, owner missing and not pay bills

Maybe is in hospital and cannot contact anybody, maybe is death, maybe....maybe.....

my only 2 cents

Edited October 31, 2019 by alecranb

[BestB]

6 minutes ago, alecranb said:

As I say I'm not sure about the korean owner (you know "thenglish" is not easy), and for the passport was inside some papers in the gogo (i think i cannot post here the copy, but is born in Jamaica but have US citizen)

I agree that a lot of thai lady are not good, but also that not all farang are the best man on the planet

At moment I only see the fact, owner missing and not pay bills

Maybe is in hospital and cannot contact anybody, maybe is death, maybe....maybe.....

my only 2 cents

Well i think here now we are starting to get to the other side of the story, so they went through his stuff, this was not going to the cash register, but going to personal belongings,company records, basically none of their business papers.

 

It is also interesting to know when they went through his staff, did they do it now or before? and who was stealing from whom would be the question i be asking now ????

 

And understand the tinglish part, but still interesting that they know there is second owner, but not going after him.

 

Perhaps there is a lot more to this story than being told by the dancers

[alecranb]

43 minutes ago, BestB said:

Well i think here now we are starting to get to the other side of the story, so they went through his stuff, this was not going to the cash register, but going to personal belongings,company records, basically none of their business papers.

 

It is also interesting to know when they went through his staff, did they do it now or before? and who was stealing from whom would be the question i be asking now ????

 

And understand the tinglish part, but still interesting that they know there is second owner, but not going after him.

 

Perhaps there is a lot more to this story than being told by the dancers

Ok, the other side of the story.... (the man never go on the moon ????)

 

Now i come on your side of the story with this so good man owner; can you say to me where is now and why he disappear? why not pay the rent of the gogo (not the salary, the rent of the commercial shop)

 

not need answer

thanks have a good life

Edited October 31, 2019 by alecranb

[BestB]

1 minute ago, alecranb said:

Ok, the other side of the story.... (the man never go on the moon ????)

 

Now i come on your side of the story with this so good man owner; can you say to me where is now and why he disappear? why not pay the rent of the gogo (not the salary, the rent of the commercial shop)

 

not need answer

thanks have a good life

Thanks for clearing up who you are, was not sure in the beginning

 

[alecranb]

7 minutes ago, BestB said:

Thanks for clearing up who you are, was not sure in the beginning

 

smart ????

Edited October 31, 2019 by alecranb