Which Thai provinces are the cheapest?

[RedPill]

1 minute ago, androokery said:

He didn't include utilities in his example.

He didn't include:

 

- Health insurance

- Outpatient incidents

- Cleaning: Toothbrush/paste, Shower things, all the stuff you need to keep a house clean 

- Internet, mobile 

- Visa's

- Motorcycle

- Maybe a car? (optional)

- Things breaking down and need to get replaced

- Any other unforeseen expenses which constantly come up

 

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etc. etc. etc.

 

People can post and paint whatever picture they want, about living in a 3k apartment and eating Pad Thai and free mushrooms from the woods.

 

I know it's not the real picture and not going to get you far.

 

Oh sorry, almost forgot, we are not always living alone  ...

 

- Maybe a girl? (optional)

 

 

 

[RedPill]

4 minutes ago, Tagged said:

He asked for the extreme exception, I just proved it can be done. Basic calories for a grown man 2 500,- baht a day, is covered in 150 baht a day, include enough water, protein and vitamins, if you go buy localy. 

 

We pay around 1 100 - 1 300,- baht a month in electric where we stay now, in a 28m2 room, and we have additional fan, and water heater on the bathroom. We pay for 40m2 7000,- baht a month, but the rooms without kitchen, but have fridge and aircon is 3000,- baht a month about 24m2 including small balcony. 

 

Me and my gf spend 30 000,- on monthly expenses Gasolin, car and bikes, included. Total budget we have for spendings and a comfortable one is 60 000,- 

Ok, sorry, you based this on a 4 weeks. Misunderstood you. But how is he going to get this apartment for 3k only on a holiday?

 

Yes, 60k sounds about the correct minimum for living here.

 

Edited November 19, 2019 by RedPill

[androokery]

1 minute ago, RedPill said:

- Maybe a girl? (optional)

 

 

 

I think we've established the OP doesn't swing that way. (Not saying he swings towards men either.)

[Tagged]

3 minutes ago, RedPill said:

Ok, sorry, you based this on a 4 weeks. Misunderstood you. But how is he going to get this apartment for 3k only on a holiday?

 

Yes, 60k sounds about the correct minimum for living here.

 

We will make it easy for 30 to as we live today if we have to here in Hua Hin, if I live like I would do in my homecountry. 

[RedPill]

8 minutes ago, Tagged said:

We will make it easy for 30 to as we live today if we have to here in Hua Hin, if I live like I would do in my homecountry. 

Ok, but I'm still not convinced someone who is coming here on travels, doesn't know where the cheap Pad Thais are, doesn't go to the woods to pick up their free mushrooms, doesn't have a cheaper long term stay  .... the budget he has thrown in, 100b per day food/100b for accommodation, it's a pipe dream.

 

You're abroad and don't know the way or any of this ... you need a bigger budget. 

 

 

[Tagged]

31 minutes ago, RedPill said:

Ok, but I'm still not convinced someone who is coming here on travels, doesn't know where the cheap Pad Thais are, doesn't go to the woods to pick up their free mushrooms, doesn't have a cheaper long term stay  .... the budget he has thrown in, 100b per day food/100b for accommodation, it's a pipe dream.

 

You're abroad and don't know the way or any of this ... you need a bigger budget. 

 

 

First month everywhere you go is the most expensive, but the OP, is so brilliant and speaks 5 languages, good with the locals, so he figures out everything in at least, lets say two days. 

 

Then the waterman reckonize him, bring him with on his round, and the lady at the corner give him a snack on the way, and he smiles to the world. 

 

Easy 

Edited November 19, 2019 by Tagged

[RedPill]

4 minutes ago, Tagged said:

First month everywhere you go is the most expensive, but the OP, is so brilliant and speaks 5 languages, good with the locals, so he figures out everything in at least, lets say two days. 

 

Then the waterman reckonize him, bring him with on his round, and the lady at the corner give him a snack on the way, and he smiles to the world. 

 

Easy 

haha, yes, easy! ????

 

I would so much enjoy travel through Thailand on a 200b per day budget

 

[mike787]

NONE!  They all use the baht. 

[GoodieAfterDark]

The one that you can afford.

[Jane Dough]

I swear by Thukesutburi though Nakhon Maipaeng comes close too. 

 

Rooster

 

 

[marqus12]

Few years ago in Pai I rented a bungalow about 1 kilometer

from the center for 4000 baht, let's say 3.5 stars
water and electricity included, the deposit of 2000 baht was refunded.

But it was a low season and I told my girl to bargain strongly if want

to stay here for a month, and she really wanted to stay 555

[kingofthemountain]

24 minutes ago, marqus12 said:

Few years ago in Pai I rented a bungalow about 1 kilometer

from the center for 4000 baht, let's say 3.5 stars
water and electricity included, the deposit of 2000 baht was refunded.

But it was a low season and I told my girl to bargain strongly if want

to stay here for a month, and she really wanted to stay 555

4000 for a bungalow in the middle of nowhere during the low season

it's not really the bargain of the century. but i wish you have had a good time here

[RedPill]

6 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

4000 for a bungalow in the middle of nowhere during the low season

it's not really the bargain of the century. but i wish you have had a good time here

Entirely depends on the girl who was with him ????

 

[DannyCarlton]

2 minutes ago, RedPill said:

Entirely depends on the girl who was with him ????

 

Girl? i don't think that's been confirmed by the OP. I was under the impression he survived on "white knuckle" rides.

[RedPill]

6 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Girl? i don't think that's been confirmed by the OP. I was under the impression he survived on "white knuckle" rides.

Yes, but that post derived from Marques post in the Bungalows of Pai, not to the OP ????

 

Edited November 19, 2019 by RedPill

[marqus12]

17 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

4000 for a bungalow in the middle of nowhere during the low season

it's not really the bargain of the century. but i wish you have had a good time here

You didn't see this bungalow, large garden, A / C worked even when

we went outside.

[bwpage3]

On 11/15/2019 at 7:54 PM, sakoo said:

Thank you. I will spend 30 days at a time and then fly out to a neighbouring country for a few days (or up to 30 days there) and then back to Thailand again (for another free 30 days). Another option i have is to get a 60 day visa in advance. I will probably avoid the overland visa runs. So let's say 30 days in the North for example, and another 30 days in the South, and maybe another 30 days for the west/east. 

Once I find a guesthouse I like, or somewhere quiet and safe to pitch my tent, I would like to spend 1 week there, mostly to practice speaking Thai, try out all the different massage places, food places, etc..But I will be traveling slowly, not quickly. 

I like the sea if it's not developed, a coconut shack is OK, but nothing expensive. Will probably avoid expensive islands as well. My budget per night of accom is 100b, and 20b/meal. I like the sea more than the mountains, but if the mountains are a better deal overall, I will choose the mountains. And I don't mind the rain, also not really interested by hiking, more the view from my hammock while reading a book and drinking a fruit juice. Not looking for group tours, expensive activities or liquor parties. And i like the rain, especially the sound of thunder, and the cloud formations and colours. I like planning my day around the rains. And I feel comforted by rain. But I am sensitive to mosquitos. 

 

And why do people feel offended by those of us on a low budget? I am intending to support Thailand (and its people) with my tourist dollars. I just want to be smart about it. I don't like the mass tourism so that is why I avoid upmarket places because I see so many people go down that road. I think it does more harm than good. Also, one of the reasons Thailand is not what it once was. Keeping things low-cost is a good thing, so that is why I travel that way. Also, it teaches humility and minimalism is underrated. 

 

Your not supporting Thailand with your tourist dollars.

 

The entire expat community contributes less than 1% of the GDP annually.

 

Second issue is I have never seen a place where you could pitch a tent that was near any massage services?

 

Do you know how much a 1 hour massage costs these days?

 

Pitch a tent is usually in the National Parks and areas like that.

 

You like the rain? Do you know the difference between rain and a monsoon? In a monsoon there are no cloud formations and colors. Sorry. The streets can fill up 2+ feet deep in an hour. No waterproof tent can handle the volume of rain.

 

100b budget will get you a tent space in a National Park, nothing else.

 

Mosquitoes? Better get use to the fact they are everywhere and worse than any place you can image.

 

Maybe you should read Lonely Planet and do a ton more research before venturing out.

 

 

[RedPill]

3 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

Do you know how much a 1 hour massage costs these days?

It's an interesting one.

 

For quite long time, the price for a 1h Oil massage has been stable around 250b

 

Many are asking 300b these days. 

 

They are going to skip the 350, never seen this price, but I have seen 400b advertised more often already.

 

 

Edited November 19, 2019 by RedPill

[khunPer]

58 minutes ago, RedPill said:

It's an interesting one.

 

For quite long time, the price for a 1h Oil massage has been stable around 250b

 

Many are asking 300b these days. 

 

They are going to skip the 350, never seen this price, but I have seen 400b advertised more often already.

It really depend on location, but 300 baht for "normal" oil massage is also a going price here – Koh Samui – among the street massage shops, sometimes 350 on a the beaches; whilst around 400 baht for coconut oil massage.

 

But if you visit the more exclusive hi-end places, then a massage, traditional or oil, can be up to 1,500 baht for one hour, but little discount for two hours, and more if it's an around half day package that includes spa and further treatments, which ends up in several thousand baht; I've seen 4½ hour for 5,500 baht...

 

Source: Peace Tropical Spa, Bo Phut.

[sunnyboy2018]

17 hours ago, owl sees all said:

If Sakoo does not have a mosquito net or a tent or a hammock, there is a natural answer.

 

Find a neem tree (I think sadow in Thailand) pluck a few dozen leaves and squeeze the berry juice into a cup. When it's time to retire, smear the juice onto any exposed body parts and surround the blow up bed with leaves. This will keep the adventurer safe from mosquito bites and any critters that might be crawling about.

 

Well known amongst those seeking the ultimate adventures and experiences.

A peeled raw chilli inserted into the åńúś causes a build up of sweat that repels mosquitoes. An old hands trick.

[sunnyboy2018]

4 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

Your not supporting Thailand with your tourist dollars.

 

The entire expat community contributes less than 1% of the GDP annually.

 

Second issue is I have never seen a place where you could pitch a tent that was near any massage services?

 

Do you know how much a 1 hour massage costs these days?

 

Pitch a tent is usually in the National Parks and areas like that.

 

You like the rain? Do you know the difference between rain and a monsoon? In a monsoon there are no cloud formations and colors. Sorry. The streets can fill up 2+ feet deep in an hour. No waterproof tent can handle the volume of rain.

 

100b budget will get you a tent space in a National Park, nothing else.

 

Mosquitoes? Better get use to the fact they are everywhere and worse than any place you can image.

 

Maybe you should read Lonely Planet and do a ton more research before venturing out.

 

 

He's using LPG circa 1971!

[sunnyboy2018]

7 hours ago, RedPill said:

Ok, sorry, you based this on a 4 weeks. Misunderstood you. But how is he going to get this apartment for 3k only on a holiday?

 

Yes, 60k sounds about the correct minimum for living here.

 

yep 60k+

[sunnyboy2018]

8 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

Sakoo:

 

Please don't take offense, but I cannot resist taking a stab at guessing your demographic background.

 

I think you are either British-Iranian, British-Pakistani, or British-Indian, and were either born in Britain or have lived there from an early age. Your avatar name and nimble debate style is what is causing me to think this.

 

I can tell from your writing style that you are likely a fast talker in real life which also matches up with the debate styles of some of the mid-eastern and south Asian countries I mentioned. Your debate skills also point towards exposure to the British education system.

 

I suspect that you are bi-racial with an Anglo mother whose father is from one of the above mentioned countries. The reason I think your mother is Anglo is because of your affinity for Christian theology and familiarity with Christian denominations. I also recognize the racial resentment you expressed towards Caucasians as very similar to that voiced by bi-racial children who are often socially marginalized despite having a white parent.

 

I don't expect you to provide confirmation of any of this to me or anybody else, but to the extent that any of this is true, just want you to know that you're not alone out there.

 

 

Iranian/Arab father with Aussie passport, Thai bar girl mother. A Leuk Khrung bought up in Australia. History of mental illness. No friends, no family. A vunerable person who has created a rich fantasy life as a defense mechanism.

[sakoo]

9 hours ago, androokery said:

 

Thank you for the entertaining reply. I am not sure what turn-o-phrases are? But when I use partner or sport it is just to return the patronizing tone back to our Caucasian friends here who so like to get 1 up on everyone and anyone they meet, especially down under, where they call it taking the <deleted>. It is basically my way of throwing the offensive Western culture back at them so they can possibly feel what it's like having to deal with them. Especially the lesser educated, blue collar types who watch a lot of television, and believe what the news has to say about other countries. Those are the worst. I know they are too proud and love with themselves to notice the lesson there, but if even one person learns not to speak like that in the future, the job is well done. And when I said it will cost you a spirit, I only meant the one spirit, I should have said it will cost you YOUR spirit, of course there is only one spirit, and I didn't mean soul, which is more superficial concept/ The spirit is the 100% non physical part of a human being, and it is being trampled upon now more than ever. Watch out. The reason I went off on a tangent was because of the response I got. I am quite sensitive but that doesn't mean the original questions in my post still don't matter. I am liking all the replies I get from people who answer my travel questions. However at the same time I will answer the riff raff when they get out of line. I feel it's my role to tell them off, someone has to. They are a train wreck. And now about your remarks about me: They are typical comments someone from a capitalist background would make. First of all, capitalism is a deception. I suggest you stop following its tenant if you wish to understand my economic policies. Otherwise you just sound like another brainwashed consumer. And the only one who is morally superior is the Lord, not anyone us. So don't put me on a high horse, I don't belong there. It is just a typical Western approach to dealing with people. Ignore their intention and focus how can I have made you feel, and then throw me away for it. It is how the Westies think and it is why their unpleasant to be around and why so many of them need liquor or drugs to socialize with one another. Otherwise, they are indeed unpleasant people. That is why they attracted by foreigners because they hate themselves and seek the company of people they can dominate. It's the Western way. And hitchhiking is not a cost for someone else nor is it for me because that person is going that way anyways. What is the cost? Since he would spend the same with or without me in the car, so what you say makes no sense. It is not like he is my taxi driver taking me out of his way. No in fact I go wherever he takes me and then I say thank you. I am not taking advantage of anyone. You are just confused because you probably haven't experienced the life of a full time hitchhiker. And there is no tab, because I haven't increased the costs of the driver. In fact I have given him an interesting conversation partner for his boring commute. I don't see how you get the idea I am using people. It's like saying he is using me for my traveling stories. That also sounds absurd. In fact your entire viewpoint sounds flimsy. It is more likely you are so disturbed by the idea that I Indeed know and have found ways to get stuff for free, and without hurting anyone, that it irks you so much since you were raised to think you have to pay for everything to be yours. And that is the deception of capitalism, consumerism and commercialism. All disgusting Western belief system (and pushy ones too) and you would like everyone in the world to follow these tenants simply by the fact that you have to follow them. Well forget it. Some of us realize paying income taxes is a scam by the government to squeeze us and others pay happily because they like not knowing how the world really works. It's just easier to watch Game of Thrones. Those your average dummies from the West. They usually watch sports entertainment as well. Same crowd. And another area of disagreement is that you think striking up a deal with someone (who has agreed to it) is a manipulation, you obviously not used to the concept that there is NO PRICE, it is a made up illusion that you have accepted, an item is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it, not what the corporation decides and then you have to pay, you sound like such a sucker, the kind of person who will get bamboozled at the vegetable market, obviously a white person. Negotiation of price is not an aggressive manipulation, it can be friendly and mutually beneficial. The owner benefits from weekly guests more than daily guests that is why he offers the discounts not because I force him. And the fair price can also be the lowest price, since many items are not worth their original price. The reason why Thailand is more expensive is because too many white people visited for too many years and increased the prices. That is the truth. If people like me visited, the prices would stay low. The illusion is thinking high prices means high quality. When in fact the opposite can be just as true.

[sakoo]

11 hours ago, androokery said:

Not your partner. 
 

Of course there is a cost to hitchhiking. Are you weightless? The extra cost of transporting the weight of your sorry ass around is both real and tangible, if not very expensive. Unless you’re huge and your planned frugal trip is about shedding weight. 

I can see you don't really have a response. My weight increases the cost? What nonsense. I am not a lard ass like some of the people here. I don't increase the cost and only a real cheapie would think like that anyways. Even I don't like that. I imagine the difference is less than 0.00001% and will make virtually no difference. And nobody is transporting me AROUND, they are taking me the way they are going, and gladly too, they are not like you to be thinking about the cost all the time, they are actually nice people who want to help someone out. The last thing on their mind is my excess weight. I am not fat. Probably you are if you're Western. What a bunch of fatties. 

[sakoo]

10 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

Sakoo:

 

Please don't take offense, but I cannot resist taking a stab at guessing your demographic background.

 

I think you are either British-Iranian, British-Pakistani, or British-Indian, and were either born in Britain or have lived there from an early age. Your avatar name and nimble debate style is what is causing me to think this.

 

I can tell from your writing style that you are likely a fast talker in real life which also matches up with the debate styles of some of the mid-eastern and south Asian countries I mentioned. Your debate skills also point towards exposure to the British education system.

 

I suspect that you are bi-racial with an Anglo mother whose father is from one of the above mentioned countries. The reason I think your mother is Anglo is because of your affinity for Christian theology and familiarity with Christian denominations. I also recognize the racial resentment you expressed towards Caucasians as very similar to that voiced by bi-racial children who are often socially marginalized despite having a white parent.

 

I don't expect you to provide confirmation of any of this to me or anybody else, but to the extent that any of this is true, just want you to know that you're not alone out there.

 

 

The Gecko is a thinker, but unfortunately you got your details wrong. I am not British, I find the British too be really unpleasant to be around. I'd rather have the company of Americans because at least you know where you stand with them form the get go. With the other Westies, it's a bit of song and dance before you realize what they actually think and feel, and often only after they're drunk. So I resent the British implication you placed on me. I am also not any of the ethnicities you mentioned. Nor am I a mixed race. And there is no white gene in my family. In fact the more interesting question is WHY can't you resist knowing my racial background, you called it demographic to hide the white racism that exists but I know the real reason, so you can then categorize me based on race. It is how white people and people in general around the world organize new individuals, by their race, religion, gender, etc.. It is really typical BS. And my avatar name is just something I made up, it has no meaning. And my writing style is based on your writing style and more importantly the points you make about me. But you are right I am a fast talker but that is more a case of personality not race, it is typical White remark to assume personality traits are race based. As if white people don't speak quickly? Or are not fast talkers? I have met some slow witted Indians and Arabs in my life, there is nothing quicker about their debating style. They are usually less drunk than white people so maybe that's why they appear quicker? Because you guys are slow witted? Anyways, trying to figure out my race is more evidence of the racism of white people. And my parents are not Christian, I discovered the Lord on my own and He saved me. It had nothing to do with my parents. And I know about denominations because I am a Bible scholar, not because of my mother and her church. Every church I have been to I found the devil in the pastor's voice, for this is discernment He gave me, it has nothing to do with family or race. Because you don't understand how the Lord operates, you look for physical reasons, like racial background to explain concepts you don't understand well stop that ask your maker in prayer who is this SAKOO person and why is he talking to me like that? Is he for real? Should I really be racializing him? Or is this a moment for something deeper and more profound to happen? But you are right I am socially marginalized but more so because I reject the world not because they rejected me first. They would very much like that I conform and become like them it brushes their egos to see new and different people imitating them and when I refuse then they reject me because of pride. As if we all should be like the mainstream. And just because I spell English words in the British way doesn't mean I am associated with the former British colonies. I find the American spelling and measurement system out of date that's all. Colour vs Color for example. Celsius vs F. These don't mean I am British educated. So there is some information for you. But I appreciate that you said I am not alone out there. But remember, it is not people that really comfort each other. It is the Lord that comforts people directly. You need HIM first and then each other. 

[sakoo]

10 hours ago, RedPill said:

Dude, I'm telling you, you can't survive on 100b per day.

 

You can go searching for 20b Pad Thais and some Roti's all day long. What kind of nutrition does that get into your body?

 

I thought you were going to ask questions before your trip, from people on the ground.

 

You want to argue or get answers?

 

This is the answer, you need more money! 300-500b per day for food at least.

 

Enjoy your trip!

 

Don't listen to people when they repeatedly tell you something can't be done especially since you have already done it and are doing it. IT is mostly because THEY can't do it, they also wish you don't either. So that everyone is on the same level. Well forget it, junior. Not only will I eat 20b pad thai, i will ask for extra tofu instead of the egg, and make sure no oyster, fish or shrimp goo are added either, instead extra bean sprouts and of course I will get vitamins that way, from the peanut as well, and from the roti, there will be a peanut butter roti, for extra protein, and then there is the rice and veggie curry for 40b, and don't forget my Thai friends who will help me find exactly what I seek, because they love that I speak Thai to them and together we will talk about funny it is farang live in this country for 10 years and still can't speak Thai. I will say it is because they are Farang and they think English is enough! And they don't need to learn any new languages, and we will laugh while they show me the best food and best prices well Monty and Claire are blowing 500b on their mediocre steak dinners. Thinking, oh you only live once, right? That means let's blow all our money and not think twice that maybe there's a smarter way. But 300-500b/day for food is WAY TOO MUCH. That's why we argue because your answer isn't valuable. If you have suggestions about 30b, 40b foods at the street market that contain zero animal parts, then our argument can stop, and I can screen as you as a worthwhile answer provider. You you see it is your constant repeating of YOU NEED TO SPEND AS MUCH AS I SPEND, that is actually not helpful at all. It also says something about your personality. I am looking for people who seek out deals, not those who do what they're told or what's expected of them in every situation. 

[sakoo]

12 hours ago, khunPer said:

The book is co-written by a Thai, but published by Cambridge University Press. The authors are: Chris Baker that thaught Asia history at Cambrigde University, and Pauk Phongpaichit that is professor af economics at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok. There are several other sources available, which agree in these facts, I've also quoted from one of the others in another post, and I'm quite certain you also read it...????

 

I'm sorry if facts changed your image of "American pigs" being responsible for starting prostitution in Thailand.

 

Please show me some facts stating the opposite, instead of talking about Soviet and WWII...????

Emphasis on CO-WRITTEN, that is thing about Western people, they like to have a non-white face or name around to give the illusion that it isn't 100% about them but always as a sidekick not the main player. It is the same in Hollywood, you will always see a non white face or name but incredibly white washed. For example have you seen an American of East Indian descent with a full on Indian name and full on Indian accent delivering the news? No, but you do see a white washed (coconut) on display with a name like Lucy Dosanj and full on white accent and expressions, she gets the job right away, and that is the same throughout ALL media including books and publications. It is not so important that a Thai co-authored the book, it is more important who published it, and I question the genuine intentions of Western corporations like Cambridge university, the British are not to be trusted with history, they are a guilty party and deserve a massive punishment for their behaviour in British Empire days, I think they are getting it now with the uncontrolled immigration, that place will tear itself a part, it is always so many British leave Britain, because it's not really Great Britain is it. They would have stayed if was so great. In fact it is a dreary place. And another thing professors often get their education from places like Britain or USA, so the fact he has a Thai name is less important, what matters is who taught him? If he was taught by British professor how to think about history the fact he is Thai is no longer the point he is just a lacky who went along with the master race, Thais a re a passive people, and for some reason they look up to Farang, I'd like to see you find sources of opposing information by professors from China, Russia, The Middle East, Africa, places you usually ignore because they aren't pro western. Usually westies ignore countries like that because they assume it's all anti western propaganda or anti-america, etc.. how convenient so they just stick to their pro western sources and get a skewed view of reality. Of course the American soldiers enhanced Thai sex industry. They also carpet bombed Indochina region, and they still talk about bombing today and then when they themselves get bombed in NY for example, they are in shock that someone out there might hate them? What an arrogant people so short sided and no clue about the carnage the US and UK flags have caused throughout history. A guilty people indeed. At least admit the wrong doing it's the least one could do. And I never said American started prostitution in Thailand, that's your quote, truing to put words in my mouth, what I said was they made it worse, because they are indeed sexual pigs. A raunchy people to say the least. And the British are no better. Devious, backbiting, not to be trusted. 

[PatOngo]

1 hour ago, sakoo said:

And there is no white gene in my family

Now I get, you're Nigerian! It's all a scam!

[bkk6060]

5 hours ago, RedPill said:

It's an interesting one.

 

For quite long time, the price for a 1h Oil massage has been stable around 250b

 

Many are asking 300b these days. 

 

 

 

No.

Maybe lower Sukhumvit.

95  percent of the shops have been at 200 for quite sometime.

Many shops in Pattaya for 100.