UK PM Johnson criticised for response to photo of sick child

[vogie]

1 minute ago, cleopatra2 said:

These nurses are fake

They all used the same sentence word for word. It could not have been more obvious it was copy and paste. 

One of these so called nurses only a few days ago was a forex trader.

Source?

[GalaxyMan]

How come he wasn't arrested for stealing the person's phone? ????

[alfieconn]

** FAKE** ** FAKE **    The intravenous drip isn't even going into the boys arm besides the solution bag would need to be higher than the boy to work !

Edited December 10, 2019 by alfieconn

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Soooooo, pretending to care is acceptable? Not in my book. He probably knew he was being set up, and tried to avoid falling into the trap, but he should have just walked away when the reporter was abusing his opportunity to get a "gotcha  photo. Some reporters are <deleted>.

The NHS is a decaying monster that is only still working because Gordon Brown wasted 6 billion quid on it.

They need to set up a slim line NHS that only looks after accidents, things like cataracts and disease. All the rest should go private. They also need to sack about 90% of the managers, and break the consultants power over the NHS.

I was appalled at the corruption and waste I saw in my 10 years in the NHS, but the people that run it are the cause of the problem.

I know it's far away from perfect. But compare it i.e. to:

a) Thailand and all the old farangs without insurance. How many of them would love to have the NHS available in Thailand?

b) The rich USA with all the people who don't see a doctor at all or are bankrupt after they needed a doctor.

 

And apart from that this article is about Boris refusing to look at the picture of the boy on the floor for a long time. Does he have any empathy? If yes then he is hiding it well. What a great choice for a PM...

[vogie]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I know it's far away from perfect. But compare it i.e. to:

a) Thailand and all the old farangs without insurance. How many of them would love to have the NHS available in Thailand?

b) The rich USA with all the people who don't see a doctor at all or are bankrupt after they needed a doctor.

 

And apart from that this article is about Boris refusing to look at the picture of the boy on the floor for a long time. Does he have any empathy? If yes then he is hiding it well. What a great choice for a PM...

But Boris did look at the photo of the boy, why are you insisting that he didn't, when he can be clearly seen looking at the phone for quite a long time and looking distressed. You saying he didn't when there is evidence to prove he did is somewhat misleading.

And for this to happen just 2 days before a General Election is I'm sure purely coincidental.

[OneMoreFarang]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

But Boris did look at the photo of the boy, why are you insisting that he didn't, when he can be clearly seen looking at the phone for quite a long time and looking distressed. You saying he didn't when there is evidence to prove he did is somewhat misleading.

And for this to happen just 2 days before a General Election is I'm sure purely coincidental.

Did you watch the video, the whole video?

The truth is he looked at the picture. The whole truth is that he refused to look at the picture for a long time, maybe minutes. And then he pockets the phone from the reporter which showed the picture. And then the reporter asked him about that. And only then, after a looooooong time, does he finally look at the picture of the boy.

If you think that kind of behavior is what you want from a PM then I guess you deserve him.

 

You could have just written: What Boris did was not exactly good and he should have reacted differently. But I still think he is the best choice.

Fair enough. But that's not how you reacted... 

[vogie]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

Did you watch the video, the whole video?

The truth is he looked at the picture. The whole truth is that he refused to look at the picture for a long time, maybe minutes. And then he pockets the phone from the reporter which showed the picture. And then the reporter asked him about that. And only then, after a looooooong time, does he finally look at the picture of the boy.

If you think that kind of behavior is what you want from a PM then I guess you deserve him.

 

You could have just written: What Boris did was not exactly good and he should have reacted differently. But I still think he is the best choice.

Fair enough. But that's not how you reacted... 

I did watch the video, the whole video, nothing but the video, so help me god.

 

Boris pocketing the phone proves absolutely nothing, he was being hounded by someone trying to make a name for himself, he looked stressed, Boris probably instinctively put the phone in his pocket thinking it was his own, however that action proves absolutely zippo.

I prefer the behaviour of Boris to the other alternative, have you seen the other option, doesn't make good viewing.

 

But I'm sure if the dirty tricks brigade keep throwing enough mud at Boris some of it might just stick, the lefts motto, if you don't agree with me I will shout you down.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, alfieconn said:

** FAKE** ** FAKE **    The intravenous drip isn't even going into the boys arm besides the solution bag would need to be higher than the boy to work !

FAKE, FAKE, FAKE picture.

Thanks for posting that, as I hadn't looked at the photo.

The child is in street clothes- NOT A PATIENT, the bag is NOT an IV bag and isn't attached to the child. I don't know what it is in fact, as could be a number of different things, and no writing on it.

Looks to me that it's a child in a waiting room sleeping on the floor, and is NOT a patient.

Johnson should sue that reporter for claiming it is of a patient when it's obviously not.

[thaibeachlovers]

49 minutes ago, rhyddid said:

Once he will win election it will be even worst, as BS Bj already placed on US golden plate NHS, in exchange to win elections.

Isn't a fake, but the creators of fake news of course make believe to their herd of voters.

Friday we will see if the majority has chosen to kill NHS and give it free to US insurance companies or retain Britain dignity and sovereignty on health Care!
Till then say no more !

I have posted why it's a fake. Perhaps you can say why you think it's not a fake? It's a child sleeping on the floor in a room that could be anything, and someone has put a bag of something next to the child- SET UP.

[thaibeachlovers]

57 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I know it's far away from perfect. But compare it i.e. to:

a) Thailand and all the old farangs without insurance. How many of them would love to have the NHS available in Thailand?

b) The rich USA with all the people who don't see a doctor at all or are bankrupt after they needed a doctor.

 

And apart from that this article is about Boris refusing to look at the picture of the boy on the floor for a long time. Does he have any empathy? If yes then he is hiding it well. What a great choice for a PM...

Why should he have empathy for a child that is obviously not a patient?

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

He refused to even look at the picture of the sick boy sleeping on the floor of the hospital.

He could at least pretend to care.

But then he has a couple of children and seems not even to know how many - and some UK voters still want him. Amazing UK!

 

 

What about that photo makes you think the child is sick? Looks like a child sleeping on the floor while parents visited a patient to me.

PS, the bag is not connected to the child in any way that I can see. Prove the child was sick and I will apologise.

[OneMoreFarang]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What about that photo makes you think the child is sick? Looks like a child sleeping on the floor while parents visited a patient to me.

PS, the bag is not connected to the child in any way that I can see. Prove the child was sick and I will apologise.

I would expect from everybody here that they can read. But sometimes I have my doubt. Please have a look at this. I marked the important part for you so that you don't miss it.

[Baerboxer]

7 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

He refused to even look at the picture of the sick boy sleeping on the floor of the hospital.

He could at least pretend to care.

But then he has a couple of children and seems not even to know how many - and some UK voters still want him. Amazing UK!

 

 

 

As the previous poster stated: he was set up. His reaction was no different to that many politicians would do.

 

As for Labour - all the current leadership care about are the repeatedly failed ideologies they claim are "radical", their pet projects which fuel their inflated egos, and lining there already well lined pockets even more.

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I know it's far away from perfect. But compare it i.e. to:

a) Thailand and all the old farangs without insurance. How many of them would love to have the NHS available in Thailand?

b) The rich USA with all the people who don't see a doctor at all or are bankrupt after they needed a doctor.

 

And apart from that this article is about Boris refusing to look at the picture of the boy on the floor for a long time. Does he have any empathy? If yes then he is hiding it well. What a great choice for a PM...

 

You seriously think that Corbyn would give a sh*t? He'd try and look all concerned and immediately say it was all down to the Tories. 

 

And some deluded people would believe him! It was <deleted> under Labour as well. Because Labour never fulfill their promises and then lie and producing meaningless statistics to try and make their lies seem more truthful. There fallback, always, is to state intervention and control. Mismanagement is their trademark.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I would expect from everybody here that they can read. But sometimes I have my doubt. Please have a look at this. I marked the important part for you so that you don't miss it.

Thanks for posting confirmation of my theory.

The caption under the photo says the room had no bed. See the wheels on the left side of the child- that is a hospital bed ( or a trolley, which the media also claimed to not be available ).

Please explain why the child has a  bag that is not an IV bag and is not connected to the child next to it?

If the child had been admitted with suspected pneumonia it would be in a hospital gown. However, if the story is that the child was taken to the hospital with suspected pneumonia and could not be admitted because the staff were too busy so was left on the floor with some sort of bag that was not connected to the child, then there might be a scandal, but so far that's not the story.

[Denim]

7 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

He could at least pretend to care.

 

Yes , once you can fake sincerity you've got it made .

[Thingamabob]

6 hours ago, vogie said:

Watch the video, Boris looked at the picture at length, more disinformation.

Correct. He studied the picture and said how sorry he was. This is desparation from Labour activists and the left wing media.

[puipuitom]

7 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

He refused to even look at the picture of the sick boy sleeping on the floor of the hospital.

He could at least pretend to care.

But then he has a couple of children and seems not even to know how many - and some UK voters still want him. Amazing UK!

 

 

The only problem in the UK: what idiot next ? The Marxist-Leninist Corbyn ? Maybe the LibDem's could be an alternative, at least for one time ?

As "the winner takes it all", you must have guts in the UK to vote of one of the two, as big chance one of them got at least one vote more as nr 2 = get the (only) seat of that barony ( oh sorry: constituency) 

In NL, B, D you can vote for another party, as it adds up per country, not per one of the 650 baronies.

[Thingamabob]

The picture is a staged set up. There's another one of a baby on a chair. Expect more of this over the next 2 days. Ask Corbyn "how low will you go ? " The answer is, lower than the gutter.

[jak2002003]

Reading the comments of this thread help me understand why the UK and it's politics are in such a mess.

 

Surely most sane people would want a leader who is compassionate, has morals, and is competent.  But, it seems people have a set political view, support a particular party, and whatever clown and crook they elect as their leader.  

 

They can't look at facts, reason things out, and will never change their minds, being almost delusional... it's become like a religion.  Support it no matter what.  If Boris (or some other party leader) had been filmed killing the child and eating him, these idiots would still be denying it and calling it fake news... and still blame someone else, like the other party, Europe, foreigners or a religion.

 

 

[puipuitom]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

But I still think he is the best choice.

Fair enough. 

I pity the UK: a 65 million people country, no better leaders as these two, with a lousty election system, with in fact two choices: US or the ENNEMY.

Seen the mess, maybe better to try LibDem for just one time ?

[melvinmelvin]

30 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

I pity the UK: a 65 million people country, no better leaders as these two, with a lousty election system, with in fact two choices: US or the ENNEMY.

Seen the mess, maybe better to try LibDem for just one time ?

 

that is roughly what to be expected from a country that is (already) now approaching,

albeit slowly, the previous century

 

 

[khunken]

“We have got to fight against privilege, against the notion that a half-witted public schoolboy is better for command than an intelligent mechanic. England is governed by an unteachable ruling class that too frequently escapes into stupidity, failing to see that an economic system in which land, factories, mines and transport are owned privately and operated solely for profit ... does not work. Only a socialist revolution could unleash the native genius of the English people. Of course, the bankers and the larger businessmen, the landowners and dividend-drawers, the officials with their prehensile bottoms, will obstruct for all they are worth. But, never mind: if the rich squeal audibly, so much the better”.

 

Who wrote this & when?

A clue is that it wasn't Karl Marx, Jeremy Corbyn or any of the previous Labour leaders so hated by the Tory propaganda supporters.

[melvinmelvin]

 

weird,

now in the running up to an election, presumably important for the furture of the UK,

with some many essential political questions to discuss/debate

 

the interchange of views derails in order to focus totally on a photo of a sick kid on the floor

 

(well it is easier and less challenging to discuss pics and Juncker's drinking habits and Tusk's odd

 sense of humour rather than what is important)

 

[White Christmas13]

51 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Reading the comments of this thread help me understand why the UK and it's politics are in such a mess.

 

Surely most sane people would want a leader who is compassionate, has morals, and is competent.  But, it seems people have a set political view, support a particular party, and whatever clown and crook they elect as their leader.  

 

They can't look at facts, reason things out, and will never change their minds, being almost delusional... it's become like a religion.  Support it no matter what.  If Boris (or some other party leader) had been filmed killing the child and eating him, these idiots would still be denying it and calling it fake news... and still blame someone else, like the other party, Europe, foreigners or a religion.

 

 

Just like trump supporters

[yogi100]

6 hours ago, vogie said:

Did Boris look at the image?

It appears Boris was trying to nick the phone!

 

The UK today. A PM who blatantly tries to pinch someone's fancy smart phone. What would Maggie and Winston have to say about such a state of affairs.

[TopDeadSenter]

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

The picture is a staged set up. There's another one of a baby on a chair. Expect more of this over the next 2 days. Ask Corbyn "how low will you go ? " The answer is, lower than the gutter.

I thought it was dodgy as soon as I read the boys mother took the photo of her son. Although I concede it could be genuine, I mean if the boys mother is professional photographer Ben Lack, who is credited in big bold letters for taking it!

[JAG]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve been busy working with Labour’s campaign promoting voter registration, despite which I have no idea what Friday’s result will be. 

 

You seem even to think you do.

I believe that the deadline to register to vote was the 26th of November. You've had two weeks to catch up on the news, and you feigning ignorance, given the dedication you have shown to disabusing any views other than those advanced by The Labour Party for several months, does surprise me! Is it perhaps a case of not really wanting to face it?

[SheungWan]

Trying to play Gotcha! with the NHS or any other topic against Boris is fair game, but the very same Labour supporters attempting to get on this bandwagon are the very same individuals who will excuse the internal stink in the Labour Party and Corbyn's evasiveness on the other side of the blame coin. What the election is boiling down to is choosing between 2 not very pleasant leaders. On that count Boris is winning. Without Corbyn, Labour could have romped it. With him they are going to lose. That is the tragedy.

Edited December 10, 2019 by SheungWan

[melvinmelvin]

35 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Trying to play Gotcha! with the NHS or any other topic against Boris is fair game, but the very same Labour supporters attempting to get on this bandwagon are the very same individuals who will excuse the internal stink in the Labour Party and Corbyn's evasiveness on the other side of the blame coin. What the election is boiling down to is choosing between 2 not very pleasant leaders. On that count Boris is winning. Without Corbyn, Labour could have romped it. With him they are going to lose. That is the tragedy.

 

sounds about plausible

 

question is; why does Labour opt for this way forward? (or downward if you prefer)