Dozens killed in stampede at funeral of slain Iranian commander, burial postponed

[gk10002000]

1 hour ago, Isaanbiker said:

The Young Journalists Club, which is affiliated to state television, said on its website that a stampede had broken out and 35 people were killed and 48 wounded.

 

ISNA news agency said the burial had been postponed as result.

 

I have no idea why some people believe that this is funny. 35 people have died 48 were wounded, did they do anything to members of TVF?

 

  Please show some respect for human lives. It could have been a friend, or a relative. 

 

   

 

  

I do not think it is funny.  But I do not have any remorse for mindless zealots that pay homage to a murderer who openly advocated killing other people, even though the "victims" were under strict political and religious control by Iranian leaders.

[chokrai]

4 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Disgraceful post. 

Just being honest, I would not care if everyone at that funeral got stampeded. 

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, chokrai said:

Just being honest, I would not care if everyone at that funeral got stampeded. 

 

If the USA played by the same rule book as the dead guy they would have "double tapped" the funeral.

[JHolmesJr]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

“They are lucky we are restrained enough to not have called in a massive double tap.”

 

What’s this we nonsense?

 

Or are you referring to double tapping your return key as you play keyboard warrior?!

 

You wouldn't understand.

 

I think 'we' refers to Americans who respect their commander in chief as the elected president.

Not a bunch of rabble rousers and sore losers who cant stop whining for 3+ years about the injustice of

losing an election to a non-establishment political newcomer.

 

 

[meand]

25 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

I do not think it is funny.  But I do not have any remorse for mindless zealots that pay homage to a murderer who openly advocated killing other people, even though the "victims" were under strict political and religious control by Iranian leaders.

Maybe if you looked into how many wars the US is currently involved in vs Iran, the truth may start to become clearer. There are bad guys all over the place, but Iran certainly is not the biggest one out there. 

[englishoak]

My Iranian friends are quite relieved the general is dead, zero tears and only bad words to say about him. Their main fear is some radical or ambitious military officer or other would do something stupid in revenge and escalate things. 

 

They also said the Iranian people will be whipped up and state propaganda machine there would go into overdrive so possibly demonstrations, clashes and no doubt more Iranians dead. They were right about that and in it seems the global media  propaganda machine seems to be making this butcher into something divine... its rather sickening , just as whipping up people into a frenzy to the point some are crushed to death all over literally nothing but an empty box...

 

The Mullahs days are numbered and i hope that comes sooner than later. 

 

Soleimani liked to refer to Iran and his defacto leadership oversight of many allied factions as the Axis of resistance, Its own actions or lack of has led to the Generals demise and shown Iran is bluffing this theory  has been tested over and over by the current administration and Israel to show it is. Consider.

 

When Israelis assassinated the deputy head of the Military Council,  Mughniyah in Damascus, Syria, who was the highest authority in the Lebanese Hezbollah they and Soleimani did nothing and not avenged him until today. = Weakness.

 

When Trump gave Netanyahu Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, the self professed Axis of the Resistance, Iran, did not move except by holding television rants and conferences verbally rejecting the decision. = Weakness

 

When President Trump offered the occupied Syrian Golan Heights to Israel again Iran did not react other than shout on TV. Hezbollah were not mobilized nor anyone else in the region. = Weakness

 

And when Israel bombed hundreds of Syrian and Iranian targets in Syria, Iran justified its lack of retaliation by the typical sentence: “We do not want to be dragged along by the timing of the engagement imposed by the enemy,”  = Weakness

 

The US, President Donald Trump and his team understood finally that they were opposed by no real effective deterrent. The inaction of the Resistance axis and leadership has emboldened Trump to do what he wants and by killing Soleimani with impunity is once again calling Irans bluff

 

Bottom line is Iran has been tested over and over since Trump has come to power and so far turned out to be toothless and impotent, its a high stake gamble but Irans leaders are having their bluff called and teeth extracted one by one in front of the world.

 

I dont believe there will be any war or invasion...multiple targets hit very possible, if Iran is stupid enough to retaliate then itll just have more teeth pulled more quickly and violently and if they dont respond Irans leadership hold will weaken further. 

 

As for those who have died over an empty box, what a waste of life.

 

 

[Cryingdick]

7 minutes ago, englishoak said:

My Iranian friends are quite relieved the general is dead, zero tears and only bad words to say about him. Their main fear is some radical or ambitious military officer or other would do something stupid in revenge and escalate things. 

 

They also said the Iranian people will be whipped up and state propaganda machine there would go into overdrive so possibly demonstrations, clashes and no doubt more Iranians dead. They were right about that and in it seems the global media  propaganda machine seems to be making this butcher into something divine... its rather sickening , just as whipping up people into a frenzy to the point some are crushed to death all over literally nothing but an empty box...

 

The Mullahs days are numbered and i hope that comes sooner than later. 

 

Soleimani liked to refer to Iran and his defacto leadership oversight of many allied factions as the Axis of resistance, Its own actions or lack of has led to the Generals demise and shown Iran is bluffing this theory  has been tested over and over by the current administration and Israel to show it is. Consider.

 

When Israelis assassinated the deputy head of the Military Council,  Mughniyah in Damascus, Syria, who was the highest authority in the Lebanese Hezbollah they and Soleimani did nothing and not avenged him until today. = Weakness.

 

When Trump gave Netanyahu Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, the self professed Axis of the Resistance, Iran, did not move except by holding television rants and conferences verbally rejecting the decision. = Weakness

 

When President Trump offered the occupied Syrian Golan Heights to Israel again Iran did not react other than shout on TV. Hezbollah were not mobilized nor anyone else in the region. = Weakness

 

And when Israel bombed hundreds of Syrian and Iranian targets in Syria, Iran justified its lack of retaliation by the typical sentence: “We do not want to be dragged along by the timing of the engagement imposed by the enemy,”  = Weakness

 

The US, President Donald Trump and his team understood finally that they were opposed by no real effective deterrent. The inaction of the Resistance axis and leadership has emboldened Trump to do what he wants and by killing Soleimani with impunity is once again calling Irans bluff

 

Bottom line is Iran has been tested over and over since Trump has come to power and so far turned out to be toothless and impotent, its a high stake gamble but Irans leaders are having their bluff called and teeth extracted one by one in front of the world.

 

I dont believe there will be any war or invasion...multiple targets hit very possible, if Iran is stupid enough to retaliate then itll just have more teeth pulled more quickly and violently and if they dont respond Irans leadership hold will weaken further. 

 

As for those who have died over an empty box, what a waste of life.

 

 

 

I usually skip over posts that are this lengthy but this one got my attention. Well said.

[gaikhao]

1 hour ago, Isaanbiker said:

The Young Journalists Club, which is affiliated to state television, said on its website that a stampede had broken out and 35 people were killed and 48 wounded.

ISNA news agency said the burial had been postponed as result.

I have no idea why some people believe that this is funny. 35 people have died 48 were wounded, did they do anything to members of TVF?

  Please show some respect for human lives. It could have been a friend, or a relative. 

did they do anything to members of TVF?

Yes. They supported a vile murder who has murdered  thousands and propped the Assad regime and sabotaged peace in  Iraq.

 

Please show some respect for human lives. It could have been a friend, or a relative.   

Not likely. However, it is more likely a friend or relative will be safer with these people gone.

 

56 minutes ago, impulse said:

3 or 4 days ago, nobody was even thinking about a threat to Americans in BKK.  Now, there's a warning from the embassy.

So I ask again.  Do you feel safer?

The threat has always existed.

 

17 minutes ago, meand said:

Maybe if you looked into how many wars the US is currently involved in vs Iran, the truth may start to become clearer. There are bad guys all over the place, but Iran certainly is not the biggest one out there. 

Are you for real? The USA is stuck protecting other countries interests.If the USA was not there for Nigeria,Somalia, and Sudan, millions would die. The USA wants out of Syria and Afghanistan. Libya was European initiated, and the EU is pushing  Syria because it wants the refugees to stop coming. Meanwhile Iran supports terror worldwide.

[alex8912]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

You do see the irony in elevating the guy to the status of martyr, then?

 

Question...  Is the USA (and Americans abroad) safer?    I go back to simple math.  You can't get ahead if you create terrorists faster than you can pacify them.

 

Well there are at least 56 less right now. 

[Blue Mango]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

You do see the irony in elevating the guy to the status of martyr, then?

 

Question...  Is the USA (and Americans abroad) safer?    I go back to simple math.  You can't get ahead if you create terrorists faster than you can pacify them.

 

If Soleimani has been made a martyr, and now has a glorious afterlife in heaven with all those virgins, shouldn't the Iranians be celebrating for him rather than burning flags and vowing vengeance? 

[impulse]

5 minutes ago, alex8912 said:

Well there are at least 56 less right now. 

 

For every innocent that dies, there's 4 family members that are now amenable to radicalization.  By my count, that leaves us 168 in the hole.

 

 

[White Christmas13]

1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:

 

That's the same lame excuse anytime you smoke somebody that needed it. If we followed that we wouldn't have taken out Bin Laden, Bagdadi, his number two and now this greaseball. 

 

If they want to stampede and kill each other to pray at the closed coffin of their martyr which doesn't even have a body to honor so be it. 

 

They are lucky we are restrained enough to not have called in a massive double tap.

https://www.itv.com/news/2016-04-26/how-and-when-all-96-victims-of-the-of-the-hillsborough-disaster-died/

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

For every innocent that dies, there's 4 family members that are now amenable to radicalization.  By my count, that leaves us 168 in the hole.

 

 

 

If there is one more attack on the USA or it's citizens there will be no method of future jihadis leaving Iran in any great numbers. They are on very thin ice and will have no airports or sports if they want to push it. 

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, White Christmas13 said:

https://www.itv.com/news/2016-04-26/how-and-when-all-96-victims-of-the-of-the-hillsborough-disaster-died/

 

What is that even supposed to suggest? Those people were cheering for football teams not chanting death to America.

[alex8912]

9 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

For every innocent that dies, there's 4 family members that are now amenable to radicalization.  By my count, that leaves us 168 in the hole.

 

 

Innocent?  That would be 0 x 4 so 56. They say his higher up supporters were closest to the casket, many of them were injured etc.  At least a body half naked didn’t fall out like when the last leader of Iran was being carried around for mourners. Remember that?  Also if you are American or not these people are chanting death to America. You can be the biggest HATER of Trump and YOU and your family would be blown away from them because you aren’t one of them. Got it? They really don’t even care if your American. 

Edited January 7, 2020 by alex8912

[gk10002000]

2 hours ago, meand said:

Maybe if you looked into how many wars the US is currently involved in vs Iran, the truth may start to become clearer. There are bad guys all over the place, but Iran certainly is not the biggest one out there. 

that would be a ridiculous comparison, the USA to Iran.  The two are radically different geo political, economical, and many other categories apart.   And I never said Iran was the biggest bad guy out there.  

[Boon Mee]

They had to be bribed to show up for this killer's funeral with promises of free food. 

[Cryingdick]

 

Was doing some after hours trading and noticed the futures plunged in the last half hour or so. It seems to be this which I haven't read yet.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/08/stock-markets-today-us-futures-fall-following-attack-in-iraq.html

[rabas]

6 hours ago, impulse said:

 

For every innocent that dies, there's 4 family members that are now amenable to radicalization.  By my count, that leaves us 168 in the hole.

And every time more citizens are killed by the Iran National Guard, they are more food and fuel shortages, prices go up, people are hung in squares, there are millions more that yearn to get rid of this ridiculous medieval aristocratic religious leadership by any means, by hook or Trump.

 

Well, half of the top is now gone.

[Puchaiyank]

An unnamed source working in the Pentagon has suggested that US and Israeli operatives created the stampede...

 

The NY times will write an op-ed quoting unnamed sources and placing the blame squarely on the Trump administration's failed middle east diplomacy...☺

[John1012]

10 hours ago, Isaanbiker said:

The Young Journalists Club, which is affiliated to state television, said on its website that a stampede had broken out and 35 people were killed and 48 wounded.

 

ISNA news agency said the burial had been postponed as result.

 

I have no idea why some people believe that this is funny. 35 people have died 48 were wounded, did they do anything to members of TVF?

 

  Please show some respect for human lives. It could have been a friend, or a relative. 

 

   

 

  

I wonder how many of these sheep were there because they wanted to mourn this dead sociopath and how many were there because if they did not attend they would be labelled as traitors and persecuted/killed  by the medieval sharia police? When the followers of this evil cult show some respect for those that choose not to follow the teachings of the murderous pedophile perhaps some respect for them will be offered.

[Cryingdick]

Just now, John1012 said:

I wonder how many of these sheep were there because they wanted to mourn this dead sociopath and how many were there because if they did not attend they would be labelled as traitors and persecuted/killed  by the medieval sharia police? When the followers of this evil cult show some respect for those that choose not to follow the teachings of the murderous pedophile perhaps some respect for them will be offered.

 

It was probably mixed. The higher up Iranians tend to heavily use human shields. They probably let innocents go closer and stayed a little back.

[Grumpy John]

I am a live and let live kind of guy but as I get older, more cynical and jaded I've realised not everyone is paying by the same rules.

 

So my first thoughts on seeing the pix on page one was "At what height would an air burst have most effect?"  Then I had a terrifying thought "There could be 4 legged animals down there, and birds!"  I guess that's what they call collateral damage.....but I think I could still sleep at night after pressing the release button. 

[beechguy]

This is normal Arab/Persian operating procedure, lose one guy, and kill dozens of your own.

[phantomfiddler]

Don,t these people have jobs to go to ?

[gaikhao]

10 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

If there is one more attack on the USA or it's citizens there will be no method of future jihadis leaving Iran in any great numbers. They are on very thin ice and will have no airports or sports if they want to push it. 

With all due respect; the deceased was under a UN ban on international travel. He was not supposed to be flying around. Iraq violated the UN  sanction when it allowed his aircraft to enter. This tells me that sanctions apply to westerners only. 

[allen303]

But look at the bright side. He got killed by a US hellfire missile, then his casket was carried on a US Chevrolet Truck. Think of all the ad commercials by Chevrolet. (When you just have to get through the crowd, make sure your in a Chevrolet Truck).

[gaikhao]

8 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said:

Don,t these people have jobs to go to ?

Munitions factory and terror training facilities  closed for the day.

[allen303]

12 hours ago, impulse said:

 

3 or 4 days ago, nobody was even thinking about a threat to Americans in BKK.  Now, there's a warning from the embassy.

 

So I ask again.  Do you feel safer?

 

Have you drove on the roads in Bangkok lately? The least of my worries is a terrorist!

[Sydebolle]

I rest my case .........