2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

They will continue to get more Indian tourists. But, as with the vast majority of Chinese, it will be lower class, and lower middle class tourists. Thailand just cannot attract higher end tourists anymore.

 

There are countless things the government could be doing, if they wanted to attract the high quality tourists. The very first thing would be to repeal the anti farang wine bill, that was passed by a few very corrupt senators way back when, to protect an anemic and truly pathetic local wine industry. They are losing billions of dollars a year in revenue, that could be had from a 100% wine duty, instead of over 300%. The five star hotels would have major wine events, and the entire industry would flourish here. If you are a rich tourist, spending $400 to $1500 a night at the Banyan Tree in Bangkok, it is difficult to even find someone to have an intelligent conversation with, about the intricacies, the best vintages, and the qualities of the wine you want to order, here in Thailand. The expertise in F & B is really lacking. 

 

Same applies to luxury tax. If it were reasonable, Thailand would be able to attract rich tourists from around the world, who want to spend $5,000 or more on luxury goods, while on vacation. Will they buy a Prada handbag here for $14,000, that costs $5,000 in Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau, London, New York, Paris, Rome, Milan, Monaco, Prague, Moscow, Istanbul, or Dubai? Of course not. What will they do? They will choose any one of those spots, and others for vacation, and Thailand will never even be discussed. 

 

Rich tourists like to spend money when they travel. And they cannot do that here, as they do not like getting taken for a ride. Most wealthy people are smart with their money. Thailand could be making a fortune on a 25% luxury tax. Instead of the 100% of more, which discourages most people from buying. How many people do you see in the luxury stores here? They are almost always completely empty. Inane. Beyond inane.

 

Sorry to say, but the high spending tourists are lost for good. They WILL NOT come back to Thailand, for a dozen different reasons. 

 

Ah, we're back on the wine and handbags.

 

Well the Chinese buy hand bags and other luxury goods by the truckful. Just look at the tax reclaim queues in Siam for instance, almost exclusively Chinese. You see homegoing Chinese in the airport check-ins they've all got huge boxes that they didn't arrive with. Todays exclusive, low class Chinese holiday in China.

 

Wine? Pah! The Chinese dont go on holiday to buy imported wine. They can do that in China. Who would? You want a wine holiday go to a wine producing country. You know. coals to Newcastle and all that. Mohammed to the Mountain. 'Excuse me Waiter, do you have the Chateau Nong Khai 89 by any chance?'

 

Nonsense.

These officials are simply straight off the banana boat.  They'll come out with any ludicrous bollacks just to save face

1 minute ago, Yinn said:

No, you need to read OP before rush quickly to post first. 

 

can you show the quote where it say “mega rich indians”. Even “rich indians” be enough.

Can?

Or not? 

No. Because it not say that.

 

1.95 Indian tourist last year. More than two year ago.

Be more this year. 

The marketing is successful.

 

That is reason they they go to this https://www.satte.in/Exhibitors-List

Marketing. They go last year also.

 

Not only thailand, many country go. Is business. Thailand is very successful with the tourism business.

 

This thread have some foreigner not like Indian people. 

I like Indian people. I not like racist people.

 

Welcome to Thailand India people. Wish you have a good time, enjoy your holiday!

 

 

Thank you and I am not Indian

2 hours ago, tonysilly said:

7/11 Just got even more busier 555

Kind of pops the bubble that Asian tourism is no good for Thai business then?

3 minutes ago, Yinn said:

No, you need to read OP before rush quickly to post first. 

 

can you show the quote where it say “mega rich indians”. Even “rich indians” be enough.

Can?

Or not? 

No. Because it not say that.

 

1.95 Indian tourist last year. More than two year ago.

Be more this year. 

The marketing is successful.

 

That is reason they they go to this https://www.satte.in/Exhibitors-List

Marketing. They go last year also.

 

Not only thailand, many country go. Is business. Thailand is very successful with the tourism business.

 

This thread have some foreigner not like Indian people. 

I like Indian people. I not like racist people.

 

Welcome to Thailand India people. Wish you have a good time, enjoy your holiday!

 

 

The title of "billion baht Indians" , this is the reference when people refer to "rich" or even "mega rich" Indians as people who have a Billion baht would be in that category.

2 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Ah, we're back on the wine and handbags.

 

Well the Chinese buy hand bags and other luxury goods by the truckful. Just look at the tax reclaim queues in Siam for instance, almost exclusively Chinese. You see homegoing Chinese in the airport check-ins they've all got huge boxes that they didn't arrive with. Todays exclusive, low class Chinese holiday in China.

 

Wine? Pah! The Chinese dont go on holiday to buy imported wine. They can do that in China. Who would? You want a wine holiday go to a wine producing country. You know. coals to Newcastle and all that. Mohammed to the Mountain. 'Excuse me Waiter, do you have the Chateau Nong Khai 89 by any chance?'

 

Nonsense.

55555555

 

He always talk about want cheap wine.

Thailand have wine. To expensive, he like cheap wine.

5 hours ago, webfact said:

 

Led by commitee chief Tosserporn Sirisampan

Says it all, really.

If 1.95 million visitors spent a 'whopping' 1.1 billion baht, that works out at 564 baht each.

 

Do they just take a taxi at arrivals directly to departures?

4 minutes ago, Grusa said:

Says it all, really.

We're the cognoscenti here aware that in the UK 'trump' means 'fart?'

 

We don't even bother sniggering. Well, once we pass 7 years of age.

5 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

The title of "billion baht Indians" , this is the reference when people refer to "rich" or even "mega rich"

The story from MCOT, thai language site.

 

it does not say “billion baht Indians”. Just the tricky Rooster say that to make reader think the thai say that. His headline.

 

the truth about the “billion baht” number come later.

 

“Led by commitee chief Tosserporn Sirisampan, MCOT said the group expects Indians to spend a whopping 1.1 billion baht in Thailand this year. 

They reckoned that 1.95 million visited in 2019.”

 

*MCOT didn’t say “whopping”. Just report the number. Tricky Rooster word “whopping” 

 

The MCOT report NOT say anything about “billion dollar Indians”, not mention rich Indians. Just want to try get more Indian tourist come visit Thailand.

 

Another tricky Rooster headline. 

 

5 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

 

 

Indians as people who have a Billion baht would be in that category.

Thankyou explain. I know already.

 

But the billion baht number not talk about “Billionaire Indian”. Is the total. 

 

 

5 hours ago, Happy Grumpy said:

With all the Thai-Indian 'Gheks' living here, did they bring some of them along to tell their Indian brothers and sisters about how great, lovely, fair and decent Thailand and Thais are??

 

 

 

 

????

a couple live at my condo. Both young men are millionaires and drive Mercs. When asked about Thai attitudes towards them, they say it’s pure jealousy. I suppose Jews would understand this. 
anyway, looking forward to some nice Indian restaurants to open up, hopefully. Current lot on the nose! 

4 hours ago, thaiflyer1 said:

Either my maths is wrong or thats a whole 500 baht per head............????

 

If last years numbers are repeated

And that's for a week or so? Us expats must have an income of 65K per month. Who cares about tourists; bring in the expats. No, scare them away.

4 hours ago, Jooss said:

Less than 10% of Indians are muslim, pale, and only vegetarian when too poor for travelling to Thailand

I do wish people would check their facts before posting!  A simple check on Wiki reveals:-

 

"Islam is the second-largest religion in India, with 14.2% of the country's population or approx. 172 million people identifying as adherents of Islam (2011 census). It makes India the country with the largest Muslim population outside Muslim-majority countries."

 

And"pale" ??? And "only vegetarian when too poor for travelling to Thailand" Sorry, but this is gobbledygook! What on earth do  you mean?

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

Most Indian are vegetarian or muslims, from what i know

Any tourist place in Thailand has Indian restaurant with Indian, nepali Or burmese chef. For muslims there are always halal options in these restaurants and other places. 

7 minutes ago, sambum said:

I do wish people would check their facts before posting!  A simple check on Wiki reveals:-

 

"Islam is the second-largest religion in India, with 14.2% of the country's population or approx. 172 million people identifying as adherents of Islam (2011 census). It makes India the country with the largest Muslim population outside Muslim-majority countries."

 

And"pale" ??? And "only vegetarian when too poor for travelling to Thailand" Sorry, but this is gobbledygook! What on earth do  you mean?

How many types of religion are there in India?

Major Religions In Modern India

Rank	Religion	Population (%)
1	Hinduism	79.8
2	Islam	14.2
3	Christianity	2.3
4	Sikhism	1.7

48 minutes ago, Yinn said:

No, you need to read OP before rush quickly to post first. 

 

can you show the quote where it say “mega rich indians”. Even “rich indians” be enough.

Can?

Or not? 

No. Because it not say that.

 

1.95 Indian tourist last year. More than two year ago.

Be more this year. 

The marketing is successful.

 

That is reason they they go to this https://www.satte.in/Exhibitors-List

Marketing. They go last year also.

 

Not only thailand, many country go. Is business. Thailand is very successful with the tourism business.

 

This thread have some foreigner not like Indian people. 

I like Indian people. I not like racist people.

 

Welcome to Thailand India people. Wish you have a good time, enjoy your holiday!

 

 

"1.95 Indian tourist last year." 

 

Wonder what .95 of an Indian tourist looks like?

Edited January 9, 20206 yr by sambum

36 minutes ago, Steve Vincent said:

India ...... I’m sure TAT have lost the plot ‘ it’s a country that’s riddled with Aids...... my advice when they land is supply them with condoms as currently over 2.5m have this deadly disease 

 

I’m so glad I’m no longer butterfly ???????????? 

The rate of infection in India is 0.22% of population.

 

The rate of infection in the US is 0.3% of population - even more 'riddled with AIDS'?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate

Well, As per my observations Indian tourists in Thailand can be divided into many categories :

 

1. Family-  married couple with or without kids. They like to see Bangkok, chiang mai, Phuket etc. And occasionally Pattaya. They are well behaved. 

 

2. Couple - they are in a serious relationship and are looking to  travel to a mid budget destination and it's more like a before marriage honeymoon for them. 

These are always well behaved. 

 

3. Single men in groups- they visit for only one purpose. They love Pattaya. They sometimes cause disturbance to other guests in hotels with their loud music or noise.  They sometimes try to get 1 for 3 deal which I personally find as disturbing. These men are generally married to a nice loving and caring Indian woman and they have kids. They want to have some fun and they try to negotiate and bargain everywhere which thai shopkeepers generally don't like. They have family responsibilities and they want to get the best out of their baht.

 

PS-

Thailand has become  like a weekend getaway for many upper middle income group indians. Thanks to VOA and affordable flights. 

 

 

 

57 minutes ago, Steve Vincent said:

India ...... I’m sure TAT have lost the plot ‘ it’s a country that’s riddled with Aids...... 

0.2 percent indians have hiv. Thai percentage is 1.1 percent. 

 

I never cease to be amazed by how low, the Naysayers and Negative Nellies are on this site.

 

<snip>, who have no concept of promoting Tourism but take a perverse delight in aiming their idiotic criticism at everything done by the Tourism Authority of Thailand. 
 

I had the privilege of working with the TAT over many years, both as a Travel Writer and later as their Western Australian Representative. I can testify as to the Talent and outstanding Work Ethic of everyone from the TAT Governor through to Office Staff and those who are appointed to head-up the Authority’s Overseas Offices.

 

Dedicated people like my former colleague, Khun Chattan, who was the Assistant TAT Director in Sydney, later the Director in India and now, a

Deputy TAT Governor in Bangkok, know the Tourism Industry inside-out.

 

Their advertising and promotional campaigns are recognized throughout the International Tourism Industry, as some of the best in the world and the personnel at all levels have earned the respect accorded to them by the industry itself. 
 

To the “Know Nothing Naysayers” perhaps, if you have some constructive ideas, you might be kind enough to forward them, instead of sitting around trying to convince yourselves that you know better than those who have an enviable track record for promoting AMAZING THAILAND. 

 

 

I say the wealthy Indians are not so visible. They don't walk in the road holding hands; they travel from their 5 star hotels in taxis. They don't shop in markets nor stand outside massage shops trying to haggle for a discount. While some of their brethren are gawking at girlie bars or GGBs they are dining at top class restaurants in top class hotels.

1 minute ago, NB1986 said:

Those who are saying Indians well behave maybe i m the only one having bad experience with them, like pushing you out of line at 

I also mind the ones pushing 7-11 lines. 

 

And what is the harm in bargaining when we know a lot of things are over priced in Thailand. You might be happy paying the advertised price. 

 

But how you can demonize a whole bunch of a billion people because of the actions of a few. 

8 minutes ago, mike1967 said:

To be fair, although they don't spend any money they don't make any problems. Just wish they'd stop showing their stinky arm pits in 7 11. 

are you talking about farangs now?

6 hours ago, Happy Grumpy said:

With all the Thai-Indian 'Gheks' living here, did they bring some of them along to tell their Indian brothers and sisters about how great, lovely, fair and decent Thailand and Thais are??

 

 

 

 

????

I like Thailand and never had a Thai treat me unfairly, but then last time I looked there were no chips on my shoulders 

6 hours ago, keith101 said:

I don't know why mega rich Indians would even consider Thailand as a go to place when there are so many more beautiful (not in drought conditions) places they can go to and probably safer as well .

Give us a few .....

5 minutes ago, champers said:

I say the wealthy Indians are not so visible. They don't walk in the road holding hands; they travel 

The really wealthy ones go to Europe for once a year or more. Why would they even consider Thailand? 

If TAT had serious words with this government to implement policies that deal with dirty beaches etc etc etc, Thailand could again start encouraging people from many nations to holiday here..... what’s next, TAT events in Bangladesh?

At least they’ll feel right at home here with the soaring air pollution. Even jomtien is unbreathable !

9 minutes ago, lemonjelly said:

If TAT had serious words with this government to implement policies that deal with dirty beaches etc etc etc, Thailand could again start encouraging people from many nations to holiday here..... what’s next, TAT events in Bangladesh?

Not a bad idea as I keep hearing about growth in Bangladesh economy. 

3 hours ago, Thaidream said:

 

TAT would be much better off sitting down with  a group of long stayers and asking  for comments on why people don't come to Thailand anymore and how to fix it. They won't do it - because they can't handle the truth!!

lol ok - you are surely not suggesting a predominantly racist TVF consortium that can barely afford to live in a place they like to call third world right ?