Dog attack: Pit Bull savages mother and toddler in NE Thailand

[tifino]

4 minutes ago, shy coconut said:

48 minutes ago, stouricks said:

Perfect English today. Why not always?

Im guessing "cut and paste" or whatever the kids are calling it now.

... just keeping up with the advances in technology... 

 

pretty soon there will be ample Memes, overtaking the spread of the virus itself; that words won't even be needed - let alone Copied

[sletraveler]

Maybe any dog can, but its mostly pit bulls that do.  Have never heard of a yellow labrador mauling a neighbor’s kid.  

[roo860]

2 hours ago, BestB said:

What do you think chihuahua was bred for? 

Found this story.

In a 1520 letter, Hernan Cortés wrote that the Aztecs raised and sold the little dogs as food.^[7] Colonial records refer to small, nearly hairless dogs at the beginning of the 19th century, one of which claims 16th-century Conquistadores found them plentiful in the region later known as Chihuahua.^[8] Small dogs such as Chihuahuas were also used as living heating pads during illness or injury. Some believe this practice is where the idea of pain being transferred to animals from humans originated, which gave way to rituals such as burning the deceased with live dogs, 

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, spiekerjozef said:

Really?

a chihuahua looks vicious to me...

 

We have a very large golden retriever - she wouldn't hurt a fly. Anyone comes in the garden she instantly wants to be friends and play.

 

We also have a teacup Yorkshire terrier. She goes mad if anyone comes to the gate. If they come in the garden without us escorting them she'll have them. She's bitten five people so far - ankle or foot. Totally fearless once set off and incredibly protective. Yet with the family, soft as a brush; never even snapped at anyone.

 

Never judge by size!

[mixed]

This is has nothing to do with breed and everything to do with lack of responsibility.

- The owner had two pitbulls roaming freely, most likely un-neutered and probably breeding for quick cash

- He has now removed one

- The landlord wants both gone

 

Where are the authorities and why aren't both dogs now confined?

Why do these stories always place emphasis on victims having their bills paid, as if that would solve everything?

And why do owners think the worst thing about their dog attacking someone is having to pay for the damage?

Where did it happen?

 

There's a pitbull problem in our area. Two houses are breeding them, they have several. They have bitten people, killed dogs, buffalo and deer (killed several after getting in the enclosure).

 

My wife tried to save a dog they attacked but couldn't so she filmed it and took it to the authorities. They didn't want to know. After killing the deer one of the dogs was apparently poisoned, now I see they have a new pup.

 

The owner of one pack is a laborer, staying on his employers land. Everyday he would take the dogs for a walk, the other day one chased a dog into it's owners yard and killed it. We phoned the employer who said he'd chat with his staff. The dogs have not been seen since, but with the passage of time I'm sure they'll reappear as will the problems.

 

It's nothing to do with breed and all about responsibility. Not just the dog owners, but also the authorities and the media who need to provide more info and ask some tough questions.

 

[justin case]

TIT ... instead of just putting down the dog and the owner in JAIL for assault

[zyphodb]

2 hours ago, neeray said:

I guess you missed my point. Or maybe you missed some meds.

 

I feel for you.

Never heard of sarcasm then?

 

[The Fugitive]

1 hour ago, car720 said:

I won't make any friends saying this but for me every one of these dogs in the world along with those that breed them should be shot.

Absolutely. Most reasonable people would agree that if you insist on keeping any dog (or cat), you should keep it to yourself. Excrement everywhere and packs of feral and/or pet dogs is unacceptable and needs tackling.

[katana]

6 hours ago, BestB said:

6 hours ago, Yinn said:

Today's pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head. When baiting large animals was outlawed in the 1800s, people turned instead to fighting their dogs against each other.

Glad to know you can use google , so tell me again how exactly do they breed them to be violent?

 

maybe you missed it but dog fighting is outlawed and has been for decades.

By selective breeding. Dogs that were good at fighting were selected and bred with other similar dogs, passing on and amplifying the trait to their progeny.

[Khunbilly]

My pit bull is great most of the time. Super friendly and has a great personality. But once in a while she’ll go nuts over a snake or cat. 

Edited January 29, 2020 by Khunbilly
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[Tropposurfer]

A species of dog like some others specifically bred to kill. They are not pets!!! This species has killed, mauled, and maimed people in Australia too. They should be banned for sale and breeding! Anyone who owns one that hurts people or other dogs (which they are usually apt to do), should be fined and or jailed for harm their dogs do!!!

[JonnyF]

4 hours ago, sletraveler said:

Maybe any dog can, but its mostly pit bulls that do.  Have never heard of a yellow labrador mauling a neighbor’s kid.  

here is one for you

plenty of examples of labs attacking.

 

here is a recent rottweiler attack in Thailand 

breed specific legislation is for ignorant individuals  

[cardinalblue]

A ferocious beast?

 

are we talking about That male domestic Dog with tits?

 

colored journalism...

[androokery]

7 hours ago, BestB said:

Any dog can seriously hurt or even kill 

including poodles 

I'm fine with killing all dogs. If that is your argument.

[androokery]

7 hours ago, BestB said:

Glad to know you can use google , so tell me again how exactly do they breed them to be violent?

 

maybe you missed it but dog fighting is outlawed and has been for decades.

Are you trying to be cute? The same way you breed dogs to emphasise any other quality. You breed them to be violent by mating individual dogs that have shown a propensity for violence. Other qualities are seen as "good" in this type of breed, such as obedience and strength/muscle mass. There are a lot of people who are drawn to really dangerous, violent, powerful dogs. The scarier the better. So this type of breed is getting worse every generation. 

[joebrown]

8 hours ago, Logosone said:

Where I live, Nong Han in Chiang Mai, there is a horrendous dog problem. An elderly neighbour next door has 5 dogs. Virtually every Thai house on the street has four or more dogs. Most of them do not have a fence and do not put the dog on a chain. The net result is that you have dogs coming at you when you walk the street, often in packs of 5 or more. Not to mention the dogs tearing open rubbish bags and urinating all over the bin, fence, everywhere.

 

I only go for walks carrying a big stick. But thanks to reading the above article I will now get gun that fires blanks on Lazada, as it appears the noise is more effective than any stick. Also ordered Spyderco knife just in case. The situation is that bad here.

I've just sent yo a PM about the gun. I need some information if you can help, please.

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Khunbilly said:

My pit bull is great most of the time. Super friendly and has a great personality. But once in a while she’ll go nuts over a snake or cat. 

Beautiful dog, looks a lot like my "vicious beast".

 

He goes nuts over mince pies!

 

[androokery]

4 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

We have a very large golden retriever - she wouldn't hurt a fly. Anyone comes in the garden she instantly wants to be friends and play.

 

We also have a teacup Yorkshire terrier. She goes mad if anyone comes to the gate. If they come in the garden without us escorting them she'll have them. She's bitten five people so far - ankle or foot. Totally fearless once set off and incredibly protective. Yet with the family, soft as a brush; never even snapped at anyone.

 

Never judge by size!

Bitten five people so far? It needs to be put down at bite #1.

[androokery]

46 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

breed specific legislation is for ignorant individuals 

I sort of agree. I'm fine with banning all dogs. If that seems too extreme I'll accept a weight limit. As in a dog may not weigh more than one kilo.

[androokery]

Some people argue that it's not the breed, it's the owner that determines if the dog is dangerous.

I think that's a moot point in the case of pitbulls. Any person who wants to own a pitbull is exactly the type of person who should not be allowed to own a pitbull. 

[Scot123]

8 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Where are the usual, my 4 'pitties' would not hurt a fly, they protect and play with our 6 month old baby when we are out posts? ???? Another avoidable attack, avoidable because none of these bred for violence monsters should be alive in the first place

You obviously know nothing about dogs. Jumping on the frenzy band wagon about Pit Bulls totally ignoring the fact that other breeds attack more. Small dogs bit far more people than large dogs. The problem in Thailand is soi dogs, packs of farral dogs roaming every street. Thai peoples lack of accountability for failing to keep their animals under control. Unbelievable laws and police attitudes that place dogs above human rights. Any dog can turn on its owner regardless of breed and an example would be to roll about on the ground playing with 2 or more dogs and see what happens when there excitement level rises and the pack instinct kicks in. Let us ignore the facts that for every pit bull attack there are dozens of other breed attacks. RESPONSIBLE OWNERS OF ALL DOGS, CORRECT TRAINING AND BEING ON A LEAD IN PUBLIC AT ALL TIMES. 

[androokery]

4 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

You obviously know nothing about dogs. Jumping on the frenzy band wagon about Pit Bulls totally ignoring the fact that other breeds attack more. Small dogs bit far more people than large dogs. The problem in Thailand is soi dogs, packs of farral dogs roaming every street. Thai peoples lack of accountability for failing to keep their animals under control. Unbelievable laws and police attitudes that place dogs above human rights. Any dog can turn on its owner regardless of breed and an example would be to roll about on the ground playing with 2 or more dogs and see what happens when there excitement level rises and the pack instinct kicks in. Let us ignore the facts that for every pit bull attack there are dozens of other breed attacks. RESPONSIBLE OWNERS OF ALL DOGS, CORRECT TRAINING AND BEING ON A LEAD IN PUBLIC AT ALL TIMES. 

You have a point - but the average pit bull is a lot more powerful than the average soi dog, which is usually some medium-sized scrawny dog that I think I can probably hurt with a good kick. A pit bull - not so much. I don't know anything I could possibly do to an attacking pit bull that might help, unless I am armed. Which, you could argue, a pit bull owner is. The dog is the weapon. 

[Orton Rd]

24 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

You obviously know nothing about dogs. Jumping on the frenzy band wagon about Pit Bulls totally ignoring the fact that other breeds attack more. Small dogs bit far more people than large dogs. The problem in Thailand is soi dogs, packs of farral dogs roaming every street. Thai peoples lack of accountability for failing to keep their animals under control. Unbelievable laws and police attitudes that place dogs above human rights. Any dog can turn on its owner regardless of breed and an example would be to roll about on the ground playing with 2 or more dogs and see what happens when there excitement level rises and the pack instinct kicks in. Let us ignore the facts that for every pit bull attack there are dozens of other breed attacks. RESPONSIBLE OWNERS OF ALL DOGS, CORRECT TRAINING AND BEING ON A LEAD IN PUBLIC AT ALL TIMES. 

This thread is yet another about Pit Bulls attacking, they usually end up killing of course, it's not about soi dogs who, thank goodness are not usually killers. The Pit Bulls are killers irrespective of how they are btought up or how responsible the owners are, and there is something suspect about the mentality of any one wanting to own one of course. Pit Bulls are banned in at least 12 countries for a reason- THEY ARE VIOLENT KILLERS. Let me guess you have a 'pittie', probably with a name like fang, tyson or rocky. What about all the other dogs then is the argument Thais use when their pest gets complained about. All dogs can attack and bite, but if you had a choice the last one doing it to you would be a vicious Pit Bull!

Edited January 29, 2020 by Orton Rd

[Chrysaora]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

A 15 year old boy tried to get the dog off by getting a stick but in the end a neighbor came out and shot a gun in the air that scared off the dog. Both victims were rushed to hospital. 

Why didn't he shoot the dog?  Bullets shot in the air can kill you.

[Orton Rd]

Just now, Chrysaora said:

Why didn't he shoot the dog?  Bullets shot in the air can kill you.

You can get 2 years prison for killing a killer dog!

[Chrysaora]

Just now, Orton Rd said:

You can get 2 years prison for killing a killer dog!

Nonsense.  

[Orton Rd]

6 minutes ago, Chrysaora said:

Nonsense.  

Pretty sure animal cruelty where dogs are concerend is 2 years and or 20k fine, shooting a dog would be deemed cruel of course

Edited January 29, 2020 by Orton Rd

[Chrysaora]

1 minute ago, Orton Rd said:

Pretty sure animal cruelty where dogs are concerend is 2 years and or 20k fine, shooting a dog would be deemed cruel of course

What's the legal definition of "animal cruelty?"

 

While you're at it, look up the definition of self-defense.

[Orton Rd]

2 minutes ago, Chrysaora said:

What's the legal definition of "animal cruelty?"

 

While you're at it, look up the definition of self-defense.

If it's like traffic offenses it's anything the Police say it is

[Orton Rd]

I was wrong it's 2 years and or 40k fine, laughable in a country where cock fighting is legal and a look round any market will make you feel sick. Of course this was mainly aimed at dogs, the reason why cannot be discussed.

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/thailand-introduces-new-laws-to-tackle-animal-cruelty

Edited January 29, 2020 by Orton Rd