90-day report with a new address

[clarky cat]

Many on here say they've never done or had to do a TM30 when changing addresses

 

What happens when you provide a different address on the 90-day form and they see it doesn't match?

[ubonjoe]

Whether you need to do a TM30 form depends upon the office your report to.

You need to formally change your address before doing you next 90 day report. The could be only a TM30 or a TM27 form or both.

[clarky cat]

I normally do a TM30 but have missed the 48 hour deadline owner is away and hasn’t provided his ID 

[Peter Denis]

90-day reporting is your responsibility and should be done at the local IO of the place where you are staying.

When you moved to another address, you need to notify the IO of the place where you have moved.

It depends on the IO where you moved whether they would want you to report of your move with a TM30 form, a TM27 form or something of their own making.

 

When you are not the owner of the place where you are staying, in principle the owner should file a TM30 that you - a foreigner - is staying at this premises, and this should be done within 24 hours of your arrival there from a domestic or international trip. 

However, it depends on your IO whether they enforce TM30 compliance, so it's well possible that there are no consequences for you when it is not done.

 

Is it really necessary or useful to file a TM30?

Consider the following:

• TM30 compliance, although mandatory according to thai law, is not enforced in same way at every IO.  Some IOs are very strict and require that it is done within 24 hours of your arrival at your place from any domestic or international trip.  Other IOs only require it after a return from an international trip (since your TM-6 arrival/departure card has a unique number different than your previous arrival).  And some IOs don't enforce it at all.
• TM30 compliance will ONLY be checked when visiting your local IO for a service that requires your address (e.g. an extension of stay, a residence certificate, ...).  It is not checked when you do your 90-reports in person at your IO (these 90-day reports can of course also be done on-line with no mentioning of TM30).
• When TM30 compliance is checked when visiting your local IO, they are ONLY interested whether a current TM30 has been filed from the place where you are staying.  They are not interested in your TM30 history, but only whether the TM30 on file matches with your current address.

Given the above, you can limit your TM30 filings (since it is not really needed because not enforced).

And so you can limit your filings and ONLY do them when you foresee that you won't do another domestic or international trip before you are required to visit your local IO (if that IO enforces TM30 compliance, notably for your extension of stay).

[edwardflory]

It all depends on your local IO policy, some enforce ALL Laws and Regulations strongly, some are very lenient.

 

As I understand. TM-28 is NOT used for change of address, and is past history.

 

It 's a case of complying with the "letter of the law" regardless of what an IO or local IO may advise to avoid fines and iss ues. If a office suddenly decides, or orders are received, what policies applied at 10:00, are changed at 10:01.

 

An extension of stay ( commonly called retirement or marriage ""VISA"" ) is a PERMIT TO STAY, and NOT a VISA.

 

You make 90 day reports at Immigration, but if for any reason you need to leave the country during that 12 month period of your "extension of stay" you'll NEED a separate re-entry permit to KEEP your REMAINING permission of STAY time VALID, your new 90 days reporting time starts upon entry to Thailand. Also, file a new TM-30

 

(,BELOW MODIFIED )
Section 38 : The house – master, the owner or the ==>> possessor <<== of the residence, or the hotel manager where the alien, receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom ( NOTE: Visas, ALL extensions of stay based on ???XXXXX??? are temporary ), must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours , dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. If there is no Immigration Office located in that area , the local police official for that area must be notified.

YOU can file as "POSSESSOR"

 

[Max69xl]

On 3/6/2020 at 11:43 AM, Peter Denis said:

90-day reporting is your responsibility and should be done at the local IO of the place where you are staying.

When you moved to another address, you need to notify the IO of the place where you have moved.

It depends on the IO where you moved whether they would want you to report of your move with a TM30 form, a TM27 form or something of their own making.

 

When you are not the owner of the place where you are staying, in principle the owner should file a TM30 that you - a foreigner - is staying at this premises, and this should be done within 24 hours of your arrival there from a domestic or international trip. 

However, it depends on your IO whether they enforce TM30 compliance, so it's well possible that there are no consequences for you when it is not done.

 

Is it really necessary or useful to file a TM30?

Consider the following:

• TM30 compliance, although mandatory according to thai law, is not enforced in same way at every IO.  Some IOs are very strict and require that it is done within 24 hours of your arrival at your place from any domestic or international trip.  Other IOs only require it after a return from an international trip (since your TM-6 arrival/departure card has a unique number different than your previous arrival).  And some IOs don't enforce it at all.
• TM30 compliance will ONLY be checked when visiting your local IO for a service that requires your address (e.g. an extension of stay, a residence certificate, ...).  It is not checked when you do your 90-reports in person at your IO (these 90-day reports can of course also be done on-line with no mentioning of TM30).
• When TM30 compliance is checked when visiting your local IO, they are ONLY interested whether a current TM30 has been filed from the place where you are staying.  They are not interested in your TM30 history, but only whether the TM30 on file matches with your current address.

Given the above, you can limit your TM30 filings (since it is not really needed because not enforced).

And so you can limit your filings and ONLY do them when you foresee that you won't do another domestic or international trip before you are required to visit your local IO (if that IO enforces TM30 compliance, notably for your extension of stay).

You're wasting a lot of space. To make it short:  It's up to the local immigration office. What the law officially says is actually irrelevant. 

[Peter Denis]

5 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

You're wasting a lot of space. To make it short:  It's up to the local immigration office. What the law officially says is actually irrelevant. 

Each to his own.

You seem to have a preference for short answers to queries.

My posts tend to provide more context and detail, that might be useful not only for the OP but for all readers of the thread.

Imo both approaches have their merits.